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August 31, 2022

Who delivered the Top Secret/SCI documents to Trump?

It had to be someone with the highest security clearance to be able to see the "Compartmentalized" information.

These are documents that folks have to go into a "SCIF" to read. That is a safe and secure room and the documents are not removed.

Of course, it could have been anyone with the security clearance and access to the documents. Would not the person keeping track of the presidential records document who that person was?

I have a couple of hunches but I have seen no evidence that it is either?

It has been reported that Jared Kushner spent more time looking at classified information than any other person in the Administration. Also, we cannot forget that the CIA did not want him to have a clearance. But, Trump demanded that he get one. They all folded and the "Boss" got what he wanted.

Another person that would have had access to all the documents from all the agencies was the Office of the Director of National Intelligence. (ODNI)

Trump had picked a little known Representative out of Congress to be in charge of all the intelligence. He had little foreign experience but was very loyal, to the point of being a sycophant. His name was John Ratcliffe. He would have to be near the top of the list as the person most likely to deliver the Top Secret documents to Benedict Donald.

August 31, 2022

The worst espionage case ever?

Vladimir Putin puts one of his agents, the American, Donald Trump, into the White House.

General Flynn is busted for lying to the FBI about his phone calls with the Russian officials, even before sworn into office. The writing was on the wall.

For four years, the Russian agent, Trump, did every thing imaginable to hurt the US and its allies and to help Russia and Vladimir Putin. In one instance, in Helsinki, defended Putin over his own intelligence.

Ridiculed and attacked NATO and the European leaders, threatening them with large fines in order to stay in the organization.

Accepted Russian assistance, including money thru the NRA, to help Republicans in different elections in different states.

Nobody knows how much intelligence was passed to third parties? Nobody imagined that the Russian "agent" would steal the most secret intelligence documents in the US Government.
But, he did.

The experts will assess the damage and it will be huge. There will be nothing like it in the history of this country. Every other case pales in comparison.

The challenge now is for the American people to come to grips with the truth. The Republican Party leaders were used by a Russian "agent" to betray this country.

Their denial is as "extreme" as their political positions.

August 31, 2022

Have they yet verified that some classified documents are missing?

Would you be surprised?

I cannot but think of Jamal Khashoggi, WashPost journalist, who was assassinated in October of 2018 at the Saudi consulate in Istanbul, Turkey. The Saudis sent a team of assassins to take him out. It has been suspected that they got a tip to his location.

Where did they get that "tip"?

It is worth noting that Trump and Kushner had very little to say about it when it happened. They did not want to mess up their new relationship with MBS, the new Saudi strong man.

Trump and the Saudis have been strengthening that relationship since that time, culminating in the golf tournament a couple of months ago at Bedminster, NJ.

August 31, 2022

Trump hires former Florida solicitor general in criminal probe of Mar-a-Lago documents

I seriously doubt that Corcoran or Bobb will be around much longer? They are both in deep doo-doo. Also, interesting that Putin's pal, Boris Epshteyn, continues to serve as "top legal adviser".


Kise’s exact title is unclear. Boris Epshteyn continues to serve as a top legal adviser to Trump and de facto in-house counsel who helped hire attorneys Jim Trusty and Evan Corcoran.

Over the course of a year, the case that began as a records dispute with the National Archives metastasized into a full-blown criminal investigation that led to the FBI’s unprecedented search and seizure of numerous classified documents and secret records. Trump maintains the search was unjustified and he was legally in possession of the documents, a defense many legal experts dispute.

Trusty and Corcoran, who do not live in Florida, are expected to stay on the team for now, but those who understand prosecutions involving classified and sensitive records say Trump might need specialized counsel familiar with criminal cases involving classified documents if he’s indicted.

August 30, 2022

How do you steal top secret documents, threaten the security of the country, and....

...still play the victim?

You demand a "Special Master" because you don't trust the FBI.

You deny nothing.

You are being persecuted.

How do you remove yourself so far from any personal responsibility?

August 30, 2022

I am glad the former president is not in charge of any nuclear weapons at this time.

He is so desperate and disturbed at this time, there is no telling what he might do if his finger was on the nuclear trigger?

Maybe he would just drop a few targeted nukes along the Texas border to end the immigration problem?

We are lucky that he is no longer in the White House. Shame on those that put him there in the first place. They were just ignorant. They had no idea of his capacity for violence, in my opinion.

This is the first time in a long time that he has been unable to lie out of a predicament. Nobody seems to want to do violence in his name. It must be very disappointing for a narcissist?

And he is in a helluva predicament.

August 30, 2022

The FBI said they had already gone thru the boxes of documents that were seized August 8th...

They wanted Trump's Judge to know that there really was no need for a Special Master to look over the files. The job has already been done. Trump should have asked a little sooner.

But, if they have finished looking at all the documents, what do you think they have found?
Judging from the behavior of Donald Trump in the last couple of days, it must have been devastating? What was in his "safe"? What was in the box that was in his "closet" in his office? (Was it something he was recently working on?)

Trump looks very worried. He is trying to call his cult to march in the streets but no one seems to be listening. He is beginning to look desperate.

When will we know what was in these latest boxes from Mar-a-lago?

August 30, 2022

When the only tool you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

So it is with Trump supporters who own guns. They have it - they must use it. It's all they have. So, naturally, they would be supportive of a "civil war". After all, they have the advantage. They have the guns.

It is the guns that give them the false sense of superiority and security. They will resort to violence to defeat the liberals, if it is required. Everybody looks like an enemy.

The gun is their hammer. They are ready to use it to drive their enemies into the dirt, like a ten-penny nail. They have no fear of any opposition.

Their gun defines who they are and what they stand for. Take away their hammer and they would be lost. There would be no meaning in their lives.

August 30, 2022

Attempting to change the subject...

Rather than talk about stolen secrets in the closet and espionage, let's talk about "riots" and violence and getting back into the White House.

It has worked to some degree but folks are not going to forget that some asshole, a former president, stole boxes of documents and moved them to his home in Mar-a-lago. Some of them were of the highest Top Secret classification. It is so shocking that most folks cannot wrap their minds around it.

And the Republicans, just as they did after the attempted coup of January 6th, were very critical or silent for a few days, then jumped back on the Trump bandwagon.

They seem to be ready to do the same with the stolen documents. It looked so bad, and it was, that most of the Republicans hid out for a few days or refused to comment on the theft of America's secrets. But once again, they seem ready to jump back on the bandwagon.

Their Leader, Benedict Donald, the thief, has been teetering on the edge of panic with his off-the-wall attacks. He doesn't want anyone to talk about espionage and his foiled attempt to keep all the secrets for himself.

It appears that the Republicans are, once again, ready to jump in the flames to protect their Dear Leader.

August 30, 2022

We are at a place we have never been before.

People are looking for a precedent. There is not one.

We are left with our own instincts and our inward compass.

It is similar to a war zone. We have to improvise daily in order to make progress.

We cannot afford to go into a deep sleep or let our guard down.

We are fighting for our democracy.

The enemy is determined and delusional.

We must defeat their delusions.

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