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Pete Buttigieg5%

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 03:47 PM

 

I'd vote for Biden, but lots of people won't vote for a 78-year-old white guy

so maybe he shouldn't be the nominee.

Make sense? If not, why not?
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided

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Reply I'd vote for Biden, but lots of people won't vote for a 78-year-old white guy (Original post)
StarfishSaver Oct 2019 OP
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karynnj Oct 2019 #2
Celerity Oct 2019 #6
Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2019 #22
InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #3
redstateblues Oct 2019 #18
InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #39
TidalWave46 Oct 2019 #4
TidalWave46 Oct 2019 #11
demmiblue Oct 2019 #5
emmaverybo Oct 2019 #7
Cha Oct 2019 #8
The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2019 #9
TidalWave46 Oct 2019 #12
StarfishSaver Oct 2019 #14
demmiblue Oct 2019 #16
Saviolo Oct 2019 #24
demmiblue Oct 2019 #30
Hav Oct 2019 #74
StarfishSaver Oct 2019 #76
InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #40
The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2019 #45
InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #49
The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2019 #50
tirebiter Oct 2019 #10
BlueMississippi Oct 2019 #13
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Cha Oct 2019 #17
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StarfishSaver Oct 2019 #20
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StarfishSaver Oct 2019 #34
Cha Oct 2019 #65
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janterry Oct 2019 #33
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LongtimeAZDem Oct 2019 #58
quickesst Oct 2019 #37
StarfishSaver Oct 2019 #41
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Cha Oct 2019 #66
quickesst Oct 2019 #69
LongtimeAZDem Oct 2019 #42
StarfishSaver Oct 2019 #44
LongtimeAZDem Oct 2019 #51
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highplainsdem Oct 2019 #43
The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2019 #55
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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 03:48 PM

1. Cool Story, Bro , !

 

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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 03:50 PM

2. No because their choice will then be a 78 year old SANE, MORAL white guy or ...

 

a 74 year old orange insane immoral guy!
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Response to karynnj (Reply #2)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 03:55 PM

6. This is the bottom line, if Biden wins the nomination. I am 1000000% down for whoever is our nominee

 

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Response to Celerity (Reply #6)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 04:39 PM

22. I'd rather be up than down. . . . nt

 

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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 03:52 PM

3. Can think of more compelling reasons to vote for someone else besides Joe, other than that.

 

Why the ageism?


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
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Response to InAbLuEsTaTe (Reply #3)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 04:16 PM

18. Pot meet kettle

 

Both of your revolutionaries are septuagenarians!! LOL
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Response to redstateblues (Reply #18)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 06:19 PM

39. LOL! How is that ageism?! It's the OPPOSITE of ageism to support them...thanks for the laugh though!

 


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 03:52 PM

4. Because he looks good and health when compared to his opponent. NTy

 

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Response to TidalWave46 (Reply #4)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 04:02 PM

11. That "y" really get away from me.

 

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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 03:53 PM

5. Go away. n/t

 

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Response to demmiblue (Reply #5)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 03:55 PM

7. +1

 

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Response to demmiblue (Reply #5)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 03:58 PM

8. Thanks!

 

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Response to demmiblue (Reply #5)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 03:59 PM

9. I think you might have misunderstood the OP,

 

which was a reaction to another post in which someone said they'd vote for a woman but were afraid other people wouldn't. Does the same question apply to other candidates' characteristics?
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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #9)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 04:03 PM

12. That makes sense. Thanks.

 

Wonder what the replies were like.
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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #9)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 04:06 PM

14. At least someone got it

 

Thank you.

The horrified reaction by some here at the thought of applying that standard that's so freely applied to women and minorities to a white male makes my point.
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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #9)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 04:12 PM

16. Good lawd, who can keep up with the drama?! Lol.

 

Is there a link to this other post (or at least the title so I can do a search)?
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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #9)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 04:48 PM

24. Amazing how many missed the point (or maybe just context) of the OP

 

And for those asking, here is the post in question:

People often say "I don't have a problem voting for a woman, but I worry that other people will"
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Response to Saviolo (Reply #24)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 05:09 PM

30. It really isn't that amazing that some miss or can't see other people's posts.

 

The only way I saw this one was due to the fact that it was on the home page.

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Response to Saviolo (Reply #24)

Wed Oct 16, 2019, 02:05 AM

74. But that thread is by the same OP?

 

I get the point but I'd hope no one here would make the point about a woman not being able to win and that's settled anyways after Clinton won by millions but was cheated by the election system.
So in essence this is a dig at Biden in response to his/her own post.
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Response to Hav (Reply #74)

Wed Oct 16, 2019, 07:23 AM

76. It's not a dig at Biden

 

It's highlighting the ridiculousness of similar claims made about women and minorities by showing how bizarre the same logic sounds when applied to a white man.
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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #9)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 06:20 PM

40. So then, how did Hillary win the presidency??

 


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
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Welcome to the revolution!!!
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Response to InAbLuEsTaTe (Reply #40)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 06:34 PM

45. She didn't. She won the popular vote.

 

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #45)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 06:37 PM

49. Hillary didn't?! That's news to me!! You did read her book, What Happened, didn't you??

 


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
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Response to InAbLuEsTaTe (Reply #49)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 06:41 PM

50. If she won the presidency, who's that orange asshole in the White House?

 

She didn't win the presidency because she didn't win the Electoral College. She should have won, but didn't for a variety of reasons, including Russian interference, gerrymandering and voter suppression. Certainly Trump's win wasn't legitimate, but he's the president and she isn't.
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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 04:02 PM

10. The numbers keep saying that they/we would vote for him

 

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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 04:06 PM

13. This internecine warface only helps republicans

 

Let's support all the lifelong Democrats and not come up with shortcomings to be exploited by republicans.
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Response to BlueMississippi (Reply #13)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 07:41 PM

60. I had to look that word up, thanks

 

Yes.
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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 04:09 PM

15. It's true, even if it makes someone mad to hear.

 

There are some people who say he's too old. Some say he's uninspiring. Others will just stay home.

But how many. Always the question in elections.
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Response to zaj (Reply #15)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 04:13 PM

17. So you give us all these negatives.. Please

 

tell us why you're supporting him?
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Response to Cha (Reply #17)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 11:20 PM

70. Biden was clearly...

 

... the strongest candidate to take on Trump. He had a tough approach to campaigning. He is smart, trusted and charming. He is a big favorite to beat Trump. He has the best chance at a landslide win, which we need badly.

Everyone else was a huge risk by comparison.

Warren was always my favorite, but she started out this process very vulnerable. She's run the best campaign so far... By far.

And Biden has been weaker than i expected.

So I'm much closer to being undecided today than in the past. And if Warren can continue to prove her national scale campaign abilities, we should start to see her polling shady l against Trump improve. If that happens, I'll be switching back to Warren.
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Response to zaj (Reply #70)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 11:49 PM

72. I support Biden Wholeheartedly.

 

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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 04:20 PM

19. Judge the candidate by the content of his character and not the color of his skin.

 

And I'll add his age.
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Response to Joe941 (Reply #19)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 04:23 PM

20. I'm not judging him. I don't care about his age. But others will

 

Shouldn't we take that into consideration?
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Response to StarfishSaver (Reply #20)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 06:35 PM

47. So you arent racist and ageist but others are?

 

I dont think we should do anything to appease those people.
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Response to Joe941 (Reply #47)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 06:37 PM

48. You're starting to catch on ...

 

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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 04:24 PM

21. He needs a qualified, younger VP

 

Qualified.

Gavin Newsom, governor of California?
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Tue Oct 15, 2019, 04:56 PM

25. NO.. your Attack on Joe Biden asking if he's "1/2 Republcan"

 

is Ridiculous. It says nothing about him.. you have no idea what you're talking about.
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Response to Cha (Reply #25)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 05:17 PM

35. Glad that post was deleted.

 

Bullshit attack.
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Response to Turin_C3PO (Reply #35)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 05:25 PM

36. So Ridiculous and Beyond The Pale!

 

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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 04:59 PM

26. Biden

 



Just keep repeating to yourself, "vote blue, no matter who".
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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 05:00 PM

27. Sounds ageist and racist.

 

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Response to roody (Reply #27)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 05:17 PM

34. It does, doesn't it?

 

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Response to StarfishSaver (Reply #34)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 08:39 PM

65. Yes, it is.

 

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Response to Cha (Reply #65)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 08:50 PM

67. Yes, it is. Just as ageist and racist as it is sexist and racist to saying

 

a minority or female candidate shouldn't be the nominee because racists and sexists won't vote for them.
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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 05:08 PM

28. All three of the top candidates are over 70.

 

One had a heart attack on the campaign trail. Hell, JFK was in his 40s when he was assassinated. It's all a crap shoot.
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Response to greatauntoftriplets (Reply #28)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 05:11 PM

31. Exactly.

 

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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 05:09 PM

29. How many is "lots" exactly?

 

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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 05:15 PM

32. I see what you did there

 

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Elizabeth Warren

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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 05:15 PM

33. Young Progressives I know won't vote for him

 

not sure how that will play out as the election gets closer. But he certainly doesn't excite that demographic (as far as I am aware)
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Response to janterry (Reply #33)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 06:17 PM

38. You should tell them it will affect the rest of their life

 

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Response to janterry (Reply #33)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 07:15 PM

58. If they refuse vote for the Democratic candidate, then they aren't really progressives

 

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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 05:58 PM

37. Well....

 

How about a 78 year old brown guy, or how about a 78 year old black guy? If Joe Biden was not white, would being 78 years old make it okay for people to vote for him?
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Response to quickesst (Reply #37)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 06:20 PM

41. What if he were a 68-year-old white woman or a 54-year-old black woman?

 

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Response to StarfishSaver (Reply #41)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 06:35 PM

46. Or a 39-year-old gay guy?

 

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Response to StarfishSaver (Reply #41)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 07:06 PM

57. I asked you first.

 

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Response to quickesst (Reply #57)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 08:41 PM

66. TouFreakingChe quickesst!

 

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Response to Cha (Reply #66)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 10:58 PM

69. The OP gives two reasons....

 

..... why people might hesitate to vote for Joe Biden. Age and the color of his skin. I guess that means that mayor Pete, and Beto O'Rourke have at least one reason people might hesitate to vote for them.
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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 06:27 PM

42. Good attempt at irony, but there's no indication that there is significant sentiment out there,

 

whereas we have reasonable cause to be concerned about misogyny.
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Response to LongtimeAZDem (Reply #42)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 06:33 PM

44. One facet of the misogyny is that it's seen as a viable excuse for not voting for someone

 

Not voting for a candidate because someone else might think they're too female is no different than not voting for a candidate because someone else might think they're too male, old and white. And both sentiments are out there - but for some reason one is considered a "reasonable cause" to not vote for someone while the other isn't.
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Response to StarfishSaver (Reply #44)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 06:42 PM

51. I don't agree; this is the primary, and we are looking for the best chance at unseating Trump

 

ALL factors are relevant.

I was an enthusiastic supporter of Secretary Clinton; not, as were so many on this site, a "I'll hold my nose and vote for her" type. If Senator Warren wins the nomination, I will promote and support her with equal enthusiasm.

That said, I have one goal: to remove from the White House the lunatic now occupying it, and doing so will be, I believe, far more difficult than some here seem to think.

As such, every single factor that lessens our chances of doing so is problematic for me.

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Response to LongtimeAZDem (Reply #51)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 07:51 PM

61. Other people's misogyny isn't a valid justification for employing ourselves

 

Every candidate has something about them that will cause some people not to vote for them. But it seems that various types of bigotry - especially based on race, gender and sexual orientation - are given as justifications for not voting for someone.

FYI - there are plenty of people who will never vote for a white guy or a straight guy but we NEVER even consider not nominating a straight white man in order to assuage them.

We're Democrats and we're not weaklings. We need to pick the person we think will make the best president and then work like hell to get th vote out that will make them win. There are more of us than them. Why should we let the bigots and knuckle-draggers decide who OUR candidate should be?

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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 06:28 PM

43. You know what? Lots of Democrats won't want to vote for each of our candidates. But if those Dems

 

want our party to win in 2020, instead of Trump winning re-election (or another Republican winning if Trump doesn't run), they'll vote for the nominee.

We don't have ANY candidates who have unanimous support. If we did, that person would currently be polling at 100%.
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Response to highplainsdem (Reply #43)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 06:52 PM

55. Yes. Each of them has one or more characteristics

 

that might cause some people not to vote for them (because of prejudices such as misogyny, racism, ageism or homophobia). But the people who'd reject those candidates on account of their prejudices probably wouldn't vote for any Democrat. Right now we've got an old white Catholic guy, an old white Jewish guy, an oldish white woman, a middle-aged black woman, a youngish white gay man, a middle-aged white woman, a black man, a Latino man, and a few more white men. The five "non-standard" (i.e., not middle-aged white guys) candidates are actually ahead in the polls, so we're likely to be voting for someone against whom some people will be prejudiced, but very few of those voters will be Democrats. All of those non-standard candidates, in my humble estimation, are electable.
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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 06:44 PM

52. A lot of people say they wont vote for a women too...

 

What should we do?
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Response to Joe941 (Reply #52)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 06:46 PM

53. Yes, they do

 

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287309227
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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 06:50 PM

54. lots of blue collar workers who voted for trump will vote for biden

 

and sane democratic voter will too
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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 06:58 PM

56. Biden's whole thing is 'let's go back to to Obama'...

 

...but what I see with Hunter Biden and what I hear is 'the old swamp is better than the new swamp'.

Sorry, but that's just not good enough.

Poling shows that Joe Biden's claim that only he can beat Trump simply isn't true. Nearly every Democrat can beat Trump.

Joe, I thank you for your years of service, but your time is past. Please step aside.
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Response to MattInMN (Reply #56)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 08:36 PM

64. Obama was not a swamp...and Hunter had done nothing wrong...so perhaps you should

 

reconsider this post....he is the only one who will win the states we need in the rust belt...we nominate Warren we will lose the general and possibly the house.
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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 07:19 PM

59. I would vote for Warren, but lots of people won't vote for a 70+ woman

 

so maybe she shouldn't be the nominee...Make sense? If not , why not.

Biden can win the electoral college which is why he needs to be our nominee.
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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #59)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 09:53 PM

68. "Lots of people"? How many is "lots"? How do you know they won't?

 

Have you asked all of them?
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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #68)

Wed Oct 16, 2019, 08:48 PM

81. They told pollsters they wouldn't.

 

Did you see the OP? I merely pointed out that his words could be used for any candidate.
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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 08:25 PM

62. Look, this argument could be applied in various forms to most of our candidates.

 

I don't care about their age, gender, ethnicity or if they are in love with a person of the same sex. Even though 'some' ("a lot" per you) people do and won't vote for them because of it.

That goes against my core beliefs and 'some' people need to wake up and be more engaged in what's taking place in this country right now.

I'm not willing to engage in such childish games as some people this cycle.
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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 08:34 PM

63. He'd be up against a 74 year old white asshole

 

so I think lots of people will vote for him over that thing.
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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 11:45 PM

71. I've heard several in my red state say that he's

 

One of the few they'd vote for because he "tells it like it is".

After Trump I don't think age is the deal breaker.
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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 11:53 PM

73. I'm not sure that race has anything to do with it

 

I donít think a 78 year old of any race or gender has a great chance. And it will make 2024 a mess.
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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Wed Oct 16, 2019, 07:17 AM

75. "I'd vote for Obama, but lots of people won't vote for a AfAm. guy"

 

so maybe he shouldn't be the nominee.

Make sense? If not, why not?
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Response to LanternWaste (Reply #75)

Wed Oct 16, 2019, 08:00 AM

79. Does that make sense to you?

 

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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Wed Oct 16, 2019, 07:23 AM

77. LOL ...

 

Yes, I heard the same argument about Elizabeth Warren (being a woman) from my husband. I see what you did there.


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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Wed Oct 16, 2019, 07:35 AM

78. If he is our nominee

 

are you saying you won't vote for him?

look, if we nominate a dead squirrel I will be voting and contributing and driving others to the polling place.
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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Wed Oct 16, 2019, 12:14 PM

80. I met Joe at a fundraiser just after the Houston Debate

 

It was at a lawyer's condo and Joe was great. He spoke to the group for a good 20+ minutes and did a great job. Joe is in great shape.

As a member of the bar, you would be amused as to how many lawyers were at this fundraiser. It was a very nice event. I was a delegate to the national convention and I got Joe to sign three floor speech signs that I brought back from the convention.
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