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Now they're "unskewing the polls." (Original Post) Ed Suspicious Jan 2016 OP
after bashing us for finding fault in previous polls? Robbins Jan 2016 #1
They still are nxylas Jan 2016 #4
I comment on poll threads that have Bernie leading, in_cog_ni_to Jan 2016 #8
I'm at work and only skimming, but I hope the Bernie Fawke Em Jan 2016 #2
It's in the Coronation Club so I can't go in there, but be my guest. Ed Suspicious Jan 2016 #3
And they are using Fox News as a comparison... Contrary1 Jan 2016 #5
It's not the polls for me Bjornsdotter Jan 2016 #6
What makes it funny DaveT Jan 2016 #7

Robbins

(5,066 posts)
1. after bashing us for finding fault in previous polls?
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 03:00 PM
Jan 2016

this is rich.thank god i have most of them on my ignore list

nxylas

(6,440 posts)
4. They still are
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 03:25 PM
Jan 2016

The current meme is "you don't believe in scientific polls, only internet polls, so you don't get to comment when they.bring results that favour the peasantry".

in_cog_ni_to

(41,600 posts)
8. I comment on poll threads that have Bernie leading,
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 05:08 PM
Jan 2016

just to tick off the hillpack. I love making them mad. It's fun! And if anyone deserves it, they do. Their hatefulness ever since Bernie stopped their coronation has gone beyond partisan politics. I'm going to gloat incessantly! I don't give two hoots what they think.
They've taken their Puma shtick to level 10 and they're getting it dished back X 10!

There's days they spent hours posting corrupt corporate owned polls endlessly, one after another because HRH was ahead and now that they're finally faced with reality, they can't handle it. They're apoplectic! I'm enjoying every bit of it too.

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

Contrary1

(12,629 posts)
5. And they are using Fox News as a comparison...
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 03:28 PM
Jan 2016

"To balance I read polling from Fox News from Friday because it was the only polling data available that day."

Makes it even funnier.

Bjornsdotter

(6,123 posts)
6. It's not the polls for me
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 03:35 PM
Jan 2016

....it's the fact that I get at least one email a day asking me to donate $1 to Hillary's campaign. The last time I donated money to her was in 2008.

Meanwhile I donate to Bernie every month and don't receive many emails asking for donations.

Food for thought.

DaveT

(687 posts)
7. What makes it funny
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 04:12 PM
Jan 2016

is how obvious the special pleading is.

I agree that polling is a very limited tool, vulnerable to manipulation and misconstruction. And any one poll that provides drastically different results from most of the others deserves to be taken with a grain of salt.

Furthermore, polling does not measure opinion in most cases -- it creates opinion. When you get a phone call from a pollster, unless you are a politics junky, you are going to be asked questions about things you have not even thought about. In a very real sense, the pollster provokes you to think about it, and you can only spend a few seconds at most to think about it before you reply.

It is very unlikely to reflect a deep conviction or accurately predict how you will vote several months down the road.


This is not the familiar criticism that phrasing of the question affects the results -- it does, of course. But I am saying that even if the question is phrased in totally neutral terms, in all but a few rare cases, your answer is conjured up on the spot, and not a result of your informed consideration.

Within the last two weeks before a major election, I can buy the idea that most people will have given some thought to their vote, and a telephone poll is not creating your response. But months before a party primary election, only a tiny sliver of people will have given serious thought to their vote -- or even if they intend to vote at all.


That is why all those Hillary Is Creaming Bernie threads have never bothered me in the slightest.



Polling in the first few states to vote is only now starting to have any predictive ability. And now that one of them shows Hillary losing ground, NOW the Hillarians start to question the methodology of polls. That is truly amusing.

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