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Flying Squirrel

(3,041 posts)
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 06:57 PM Jun 2016

We, the undersigned members of Democratic Underground

Hereby pledge that we will post ABSOLUTELY NOTHING anywhere on this website (including the Lounge, GD, LBN, and the Bernie Sanders group) after June 15, 2016 until such time as (a) Bernie Sanders has secured the nomination of the Democratic Party or (b) the General Election is over, whichever comes first.

Enjoy yourselves, those who remain. The rest of us will be at http://jackpineradicals.org/ continuing the fight.

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We, the undersigned members of Democratic Underground (Original Post) Flying Squirrel Jun 2016 OP
Me Flying Squirrel Jun 2016 #1
I'm out the minute Hillary is installed. Maedhros Jun 2016 #2
Hillary is also the enemy of peace. Shemp Howard Jun 2016 #31
Pledges? We don't need no stinkin' pledges! BillZBubb Jun 2016 #3
I'm game. yourout Jun 2016 #4
or c) Hills gets recommended for indictment, whichever thereismore Jun 2016 #5
What you said! ^^^^ n/t ebayfool Jun 2016 #21
Haven't posted that often to begin with (obviously) Mac1949 Jun 2016 #6
Results... Major Nikon Jun 2016 #7
Bunch of nosy busibodies have nothing else better to do. nc4bo Jun 2016 #11
Someone Alerted This??? LovingA2andMI Jun 2016 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author Autumn Colors Jun 2016 #15
Lol, they're also trying to get the hosts to shut this down riderinthestorm Jun 2016 #40
Signed! in_cog_ni_to Jun 2016 #8
Democratic "Underground" Matt_in_STL Jun 2016 #9
I'M in Robbins Jun 2016 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author Autumn Colors Jun 2016 #13
Sad but true. intheflow Jun 2016 #14
Me, too, Intheflow Blue_In_AK Jun 2016 #16
This is the only pledge that I WILL make dana_b Jun 2016 #17
War Is the New Normal DaveT Jun 2016 #18
I'm in too lmbradford Jun 2016 #19
I have no problem with signing this. TM99 Jun 2016 #20
I'll be here all alone? RobertEarl Jun 2016 #22
oh, please RussBLib Jun 2016 #23
Heavens to Murgatroyd. Snagglepuss is in. Exit stage left even. snagglepuss Jun 2016 #24
Sign me in. PFunk1 Jun 2016 #25
I'll let my imaginary attorney respond Babel_17 Jun 2016 #26
Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #27
Sorry...this is home nt Jack Bone Jun 2016 #28
I don't blame you. I'm torn apart on this. I'm also reluctant to pass judgement Jarqui Jun 2016 #29
Jackpineradicals.org is where true progreslsives azmom Jun 2016 #30
Well it may not stop if Hillary wins mvd Jun 2016 #32
I'm going to put off this decision in hopes that things will happen faster than some people expect, JudyM Jun 2016 #33
Signing - sadly. alittlelark Jun 2016 #34
Yep, it'll be a preview of November. HooptieWagon Jun 2016 #35
I'm in. mac56 Jun 2016 #36
I understand the impulse but I can't agree. Jim Lane Jun 2016 #37
I'd already kind of informally decided so, for myself. closeupready Jun 2016 #38
ughhh.. disillusioned73 Jun 2016 #39
I'm already at JPR Duckfan Jun 2016 #41
Just my .02 leftcoastmountains Jun 2016 #42
 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
2. I'm out the minute Hillary is installed.
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 07:00 PM
Jun 2016

I find the Hillary Clinton Party to be the enemy of liberal and progressive governance.

Shemp Howard

(889 posts)
31. Hillary is also the enemy of peace.
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 12:27 AM
Jun 2016

I cannot, and will not, support any candidate who advocates war. And Hillary advocates war.

No more wars, please.

BillZBubb

(10,650 posts)
3. Pledges? We don't need no stinkin' pledges!
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 07:00 PM
Jun 2016

I'll probably post a few times after that until the posse catches up to me.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
7. Results...
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 07:12 PM
Jun 2016

On Thu Jun 2, 2016, 04:58 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

We, the undersigned members of Democratic Underground
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1280206174

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

divisive

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Thu Jun 2, 2016, 05:09 PM, and the Jury voted 1-6 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Divisive, rude, hurtful, disruptive... not to mention juvenile.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Sounds like exactly the opposite
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Divisive? How so?
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Don't let the doorknob hit you in the ass on the way out.

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
11. Bunch of nosy busibodies have nothing else better to do.
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 08:10 PM
Jun 2016

For some reason they are drawn to our little group like moths to a bonfire.

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
12. Someone Alerted This???
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 08:14 PM
Jun 2016

Really? OMG! Does the 1-6 Jury Decision give them a clue folks have a right to say if they will cease posting at DU or Not, if they want. What rule does that "violate"? NOT ONE.

Response to Major Nikon (Reply #7)

Robbins

(5,066 posts)
10. I'M in
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 07:53 PM
Jun 2016

after june 10 i am out of here till 1:Bernie preveils at contested convention or 2:After GE when she probally loses to Trump

Response to Flying Squirrel (Original post)

intheflow

(28,520 posts)
14. Sad but true.
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 08:19 PM
Jun 2016

Count me in. I've been here 12 years and it's hard to contemplate a life without DU, but it will be hard to stomach the gloating echo chamber. And as long as they're alienating the progressive left, might as well just rename the site Democratic Mainstream, 'cause there won't be anything Underground about it by that point.

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
16. Me, too, Intheflow
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 08:58 PM
Jun 2016

I had pretty well decided that yesterday was my last post, period, but seeing you here, I must chime in. Are you at JPR?

I'll miss the photo group, but I've just about had it with DU.

dana_b

(11,546 posts)
17. This is the only pledge that I WILL make
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 09:23 PM
Jun 2016

They will be very happy that we're gone and I'll be happy not to see their mean, nasty b.s.

DaveT

(687 posts)
18. War Is the New Normal
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 09:45 PM
Jun 2016

I joined this Board in 2004 when friends from other boards suggested it to me. At the time, opposition to the Iraq War and what was then called The Bush Doctrine was why I was posting.

The Bush Doctrine as a term is not used by the President or Secretary Clinton, but it is now our national security policy. It is an explicit repudiation of Deterrence, which was the bi-partisan consensus that won the Cold War. Deterrence is now down the Memory Hole, and the idea of the USA using its supposed "power" to change regimes that displease our leaders is the new Normal.

Hillary supporters on this very board say that since Hillary "apologized" for her vote on the Iraq War Resolution, we are assholes to hold it against her. And of course they remain in stone cold silence about Hillary's expressed desire to change the regime in Syria and to expand NATO to Ukraine and Georgia. None of that is supposed to matter -- we are just being purists or otherwise shitheads to even question the Foreign Policy Experience of Mrs. C.

To them, war forever is the New Normal. And in that New Normalcy, there will never be affordable education or nationally financed health care.


I have no desire to talk to these people about anything. They are my political opponents.

Have a nice life, DU. I'll be gone, too, as soon as loyalty to the War Forever candidate is a condition of membership.

lmbradford

(517 posts)
19. I'm in too
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 10:11 PM
Jun 2016

Sad but true. Better than ten years I have had my thoughts challenged, my thoughts affirmed, and my ideas pushed and pulled to the point that I learned a lot. I don't post much but I am here a lot. I got my news here, and got my beliefs challenged and affirmed. I am DU. But am not nor will I ever be a conformist. I will miss what we used to have here. Thought provoking, well defended arguments based on evidence. Since I am a University Professor I cannot do otherwise.

June 15, I hardly knew ya!

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
20. I have no problem with signing this.
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 10:20 PM
Jun 2016

This is a pledge to myself. This is in accordance with the rules recently set forth.

Already at JPR. Everyone come join us.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
22. I'll be here all alone?
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 11:44 PM
Jun 2016

There are ways to say what you want without breaking the rules.

For one, speaking out about how if Hillary should act a certain way at the convention would help get her elected would not be frowned upon by the PTB of DU.

Don't ever give up. Keep fighting. Stay involved. Just learn how to duck and weave. Like Ali's rope-a-dope.

PFunk1

(185 posts)
25. Sign me in.
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 11:57 PM
Jun 2016

Oh I'll still lurk but after the 15 that's all I will do. To put it bluntly they don't want us so why hang around so I've already made the prep work on doing that the minute DK did this (rightfully) expecting DU to do the same.

Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
26. I'll let my imaginary attorney respond
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 11:57 PM
Jun 2016

Babel-17 “will decline to answer any and all questions that may be put to him”

Response to Flying Squirrel (Original post)

Jarqui

(10,131 posts)
29. I don't blame you. I'm torn apart on this. I'm also reluctant to pass judgement
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 12:15 AM
Jun 2016

Love Bernie. Can't agree with Hillary but can't stand Trump way more.

United we stand. Divided we fall. But I was raised to not tolerate the dishonesty of Richard Nixon and in my view, Hillary is similarly dishonest like Nixon.

A thread of good people leaving is sad to read.

I'm distressed. I still don't know what I'm going to do.

mvd

(65,185 posts)
32. Well it may not stop if Hillary wins
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 12:35 AM
Jun 2016

If she turns her back on progressives like I expect right now, criticism will likely be limited. I have no ill will towards this site. If they want to be a strict Party website, they can be, but JPR forums fit better with my views. I am a Democrat but not happy with the party. Bernie has been exciting and has given me hope.

JudyM

(29,294 posts)
33. I'm going to put off this decision in hopes that things will happen faster than some people expect,
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 01:13 AM
Jun 2016

that it will not be apparent who the nominee is. I am very encouraged by the recent CA polls -even though they're just polls they are looking consistent. It looks to me like Californians hate trump and are aware that Bernie beats him more easily than Clinton does. This is a message that never seemed to get through anyplace else but it might happen. Plus if the polls under represent cellphone users... It just all looks good. I've also been speaking to a number of Californians though I'm on the other coast and they seem to feel a similar pulse. They are saying that his supporters are getting the importance of continuing to vote till the polls close, not when MSM calls it for Clinton. Social media info sharing to get Bernie elected is on fire, I'm told.

I'm thinking that Bernie has a decent chance of really shaking things up and it will be a Golden State for him... and us.

If that happens it'll be fun to be here on DU - for kicks!!! Right?!

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
35. Yep, it'll be a preview of November.
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 12:33 PM
Jun 2016

Progressives will throw their support elsewhere, and the koolaid quaffing conservadems will be left wondering where everyone went and why the party bombed.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
37. I understand the impulse but I can't agree.
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 01:59 PM
Jun 2016

As I understand the rules, we won't be required to post pro-Clinton cheerleading. Instead, if you don't plan to vote for Clinton, just don't use DU to push that view. We can certainly talk about downticket races (Canova versus DWS), as well as issues that come up.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
38. I'd already kind of informally decided so, for myself.
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 02:09 PM
Jun 2016

If others are going to do so, then what can I say. Lots of unhappy Democrats, I guess.

Duckfan

(1,268 posts)
41. I'm already at JPR
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 03:57 PM
Jun 2016

Over there I don't have to worry about some brain dead hill-bot hitting the alert button and crying, "you said bad things about Hillary. You hurt my feelings." You should be hidden".

My response: If we hurt your feelings call 1-800-waaaaaaaa.

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