Sanders Sets The Record Straight: My Supporters Are ‘Not Anti-Clinton’

[Capn Sunshine]

Except in DU Bubble land of course

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/08/30/sanders-sets-the-record-straight-my-supporters-are-not-anti-clinton-video/

[SonderWoman]

1. BWAHAHAHAHAHA!

[RobertEarl]

4. We are not anti-Clinton

We just think Bernie will make a MUCH better president.

On DU, there are many of us who are against Clinton's supporters. If that makes us anti- in their book, well, ok.

[SonderWoman]

10. His own colleagues don't even think he would be a good president.

Which is why he has zero endorsements. If he can't even rally his own troops to his agenda he'll just be a punching bag for the rightwing.

[RobertEarl]

15. Let's be perfectly clear

The establishment politicians are not "his own troops". Only someone who is clueless would continue to profess such a thing.

And in reality, the rightwing is Bernie's punching bag and they are scared of him.

So, in one post you have made two errors. Going for three strikes in your next reply?

[SonderWoman]

21. Establishment politicians write bills and vote on them.

And Democratic senators and congress are the troops.

[RobertEarl]

28. Congress are not his troops.

You managed to swing and miss a third time. In baseball that means you go back to the dugout.

The establishment politicians are not backing Bernie because Bernie is not kissing their ass. That's what makes Bernie so acceptable to the common person and will ensure his victory over the establishment.

[SonderWoman]

30. All of your silly anecdotes are, well...silly.

This isn't a baseball game, and presidents don't write legislation. If Bernie wants to enact any of his agenda he will need the complete backing of establishment Dems.

[RobertEarl]

33. Oh, they'll back him

They will or they will get voted out of office by the hordes of voters who will sweep Bernie into office in 2016.

And some republicans will go along seeing the wave.

I'd rather not have another Clinton in office who makes bad deals with the republicans like Bill did. I want someone to kick their ass!

[SonderWoman]

36. LOL. Okay.

25 million jobs created, raised taxes on the rich, longest stretch of peacetime.

[rock]

133. Wow, RobertEarl

Your opinions are really wild and wrong.

[Tommy2Tone]

46. Establishment Dems being the one's who endorsed Hillary

[merrily]

84. LOL! That is not why House and Senate Democrats did not endorse him.

[artislife]

58. It's true

I pretty much agree with all you wrote.

[RobertEarl]

106. Thanks, I like most of your posts, too.

We're gonna get this done and get Bernie in. Everyday we see more and more people seeing Bernie like we do. I'm loving it!

[ancianita]

111. What. His supporters seek to behave in the campaign as he does. They defend themselves but

don't attack. In the heat of primary fever both sides might forget, but overall, they do remember that they are each supporters in the General.

[SidDithers]

2. Some are...nt

Sid

[monmouth4]

18. The coronation is not going to happen and I wouldn't vote for her under any circumstances..n/t

[SonderWoman]

22. And you just proved why Bernie is wrong.

Unless it was satire?

[monmouth4]

26. Not satire and yes, Bernie was wrong....n/t

[artislife]

61. We don't have enough to fill Portland's arena on this site

So the better souls for Bernie in general far outnumber the evil supporters here on this site.

It may be because they don't have to read the OPs here, that allows them to be so gracious.

[Tommy2Tone]

48. Coronation?

and you won't be voting for a Democrat. As a lifelong democrat I am disgusted by your stance. You do know this is not BernieUnderground?

[Chan790]

81. As I have professed before...I don't believe Hillary is really a Democrat.

I think the former Goldwater Girl is exactly what she's always been...a stealth moderate Republican. I think about as well of her supporters.

I will never vote for her. There is no possibility that I will. Fortunately, I live in CT where the GOP is basically dead and buried in so the Democratic nominee will win my state regardless who that nominee is.

[randys1]

53. Then you must be a white, str8t, protestant male?

[yuiyoshida]

59. I'm not White...

Nor am I straight, nor am I a Christian, nor am I a Male...and guess who I will be voting for?
Voting for Bernie.. I like what he has to say...and I am convinced, so It looks like not all of Bernie's supporters, are white straight males.

[randys1]

60. Wasnt my point, was it. Either you are all those things and will act in such a manner

that will help elect GOP to WH or you wont.

[yuiyoshida]

62. what was your point that you had to bring up all those labels?

I WON'T BE Voting for any GOP candidate...do you EVEN think Donald Trump would give me credit for anything other than being a non-white female, that's (gasp!) Bi-sexual? According to him, I'm an Immigrant!! Yeah, Donald, send me back to ASIA where I belong!!!

[randys1]

63. My point is you CANT NOT vote for Hillary, if she is the nominee, and claim to care about

minorities, anybody but the white privileged str8t protestant male class.

[Scootaloo]

66. Noit that supporting Clinton is proof of such concern, either

[randys1]

67. Nonsense...pure nonsense. And an example of why I dont believe some folks here are who

they say they are

[Scootaloo]

78. What? Saying "I support Clinton" is no proof of concern for minority issues

[yuiyoshida]

69. You make it sound like its not a race...

like I'm just throwing my vote away if I don't vote for the one who's the chosen one! There is the first vote coming up, I will be voting for Bernie. If the Democrats choose him, I will vote for him again. If he is not picked the first time around, than who ever the party chooses, I will vote for them. No Republican will win, not on my watch.

[randys1]

72. OK good... then we have no disagreement.

My issue is with those who say they wont vote for Hillary no matter what.

And I will attack them every time i come across them because I consider them to either NOT be liberals or democrats at all or if they are they are still so wrong I will do whatever I can to expose that.

It sickens me because most who say that are also those with the least to lose.

[yuiyoshida]

77. My point originally was Bernie's supporters come in all colors...

I am of Japanese and Hawaiian Native decent. Now you know someone who does not fit the bill of being a white, straight, male. I am sure if people looked at his crowds, they would see an entire rainbow of people who went to go hear him speak.

[merrily]

88. LOL! You're schooling a bi Asian woman about caring about minorities?

You should apologize.

[Chan790]

92. Yes, I actually can.

I think Hillary's DLC/Third-Way center-right fiscal positions and lip service to progressive social-values will be terrible for women, children, LGBTQ... individuals, and minorities.

Hillary is the candidate that is best for white privileged str8t protestant males. Anybody else supporting her is voting against their interests.

[Chan790]

87. Nope.

I'm multi-ethnic.
I'm pansexual (femme-preferenced) and polyamorous.
I'm an atheist.
I'm gender-nonconforming.

0/4

Definitely not voting for Hillary though.

[Agnosticsherbet]

3. Sadly, Sanders is not a member here.

[merrily]

89. Not sad at all. He should not have to read the shit that gets posted here about him.

[beam me up scottie]

91. You should see what DUers are saying about him on another site.

It would make you want to stop coming here.

[merrily]

94. This one is bad enough.

It gets no lower than "Gee, I sure hope he isn't REALLY a pedophile."

[beam me up scottie]

95. Yeah it is but at least juries hide some of the worst posts.

[merrily]

131. Which means only that they're highly likely to be read, at least by members.

But, you're right. At least that keeps them from the eyes of non-members.

[Agnosticsherbet]

126. I think he should hear what is said in his name.

Though I suspect he doesn't have the time to be a member.

[merrily]

127. Typical sanctimonious bull puckey nonsense.

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I've never seen anyone posting here in his name or claiming to speak for him. I would never dream of saying that the pedophile crap was posted in Hillary's name because someone who claims to support Hillary posted it. Or that I would not vote for Hillary because of her supporters.


No Sanders is much better off not seeing the garbage being posted about him here, and by people who point fingers at his supporters and threaten to inform him about his supporters to boot. The double standards (and other things) here are borderline insane. Actually, perhaps not always so borderline, now that I've typed it out. I guess it's just after one has read it so many thousand times, it can seem more usual and therefore perhaps less certifiable than it did the first time.

[Agnosticsherbet]

134. Typical sanctimonious bull puckey answer using personal attacks.

Not surprised.

[merrily]

135. Untrue. There was no personal attack.

"You're a liar," is an example of a personal attack. Nothing like that in my post.

[Agnosticsherbet]

136. So borderline isane or not so borderline is not a personal attack.

I'll keep that in mind.

[merrily]

138. WTF? I didn't call you borderline insane. That described what goes on at DU.

Whatever. You're on your own with this pretense of personal insults.

[leftofcool]

5. Some should send the burn links to DU.

[lunamagica]

6. Many have said they will not vote for her in the GE. If that's not anti, I don't know what is

[RobertEarl]

7. They just say that to make some of you mad.

[lunamagica]

8. I hope you are right. n/t

[Lucky Luciano]

13. Either that or they live in a state like NY or OK where writing in Bernie won't make a difference.

If these people do that on a swing state, then they are crazy.

[merrily]

90. It's really by county.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12778561

I live in Boston. I can vote for whomever I wish--and all day long, if they'd let me--and it would not matter.

[Tommy2Tone]

49. So he's a liar?

[Maedhros]

24. I'm guilty as charged, and I speak only for myself.

I'm a progressive; Hillary is a Neoliberal. These don't mix.

I am re-registering as a Democrat just to vote for Bernie Sanders, because he actually represents my political views. Hillary represents many, many things that I find abhorrent - such as belligerent foreign policy, private prisons, and Wall Street malfeasance. I don't vote for supporters of these things. Period.

[lunamagica]

27. Thanks for proving us right. Obviously Sanders doesn't know his supporters. n/t

[Maedhros]

71. As I said, I speak only for myself and I don't represent all of Sanders' supporters.

Nearly all of them here on DU are Democrats - I'm not. I had no intention of voting Democrat in this election until Bernie declared, because the Democratic Party in general does not support liberal and progressive policies. Bernie does, hence the Democrats will get my vote if he wins the nomination.

Hillary, by contrast, will never get my vote. Why would I vote for someone who works against my interests?

[merrily]

93. LOL! ONE person proves you right about Sanders' millions of supporters? Can't make up this stuff.

[lunamagica]

108. One person? You're joking, right?

[merrily]

128. No, you replied to one person. Poster after poster on this thread had posted he or she did not hate

Hillary. One person posted something else and your response to that one person was to thank him or her for proving "us" right (about all Sanders supporters) and to pretend that that one response spoke, not for one person who posted it, not even just for all Sanders supporters on DU, but for millions of people who support Sanders. Here is your reply.

Thanks for proving us right. Obviously Sanders doesn't know his supporters.

As I said, "Can't make it up."

[TM99]

130. Oh, ok, you got us!

There are now two.

But here's something you might actually try to do....read what is being said so you understand instead of reducing it to 'hate' and red team/blue team adolescent politics.

I am not 'anti-Clinton'. I am anti-neoliberalism and Third Way triangulation. I am anti-neocon foreign policy positions. I am anti-corporate ownership of the political process. I am anti-TPP, NAFTA, and global trade treatises that unduly punish the American workers. I am anti-MIC. I am anti-private prisons and its affects on the AA & Hispanic communities. I am anti-drug war and its affects on the sick and the poor and the addicted.

So I am not anit-Clinton, I am am anti-what she votes for and represents.

She would not have had my vote whether Sanders was running or not because I don't vote for the 'lesser of two evils'. I never have, and I never will. I don't vote because of loyalty to a party. I don't vote other than my own conscience.

I am simply fortunate that there is a politician running in 2016 who is honestly the most in line with traditional Democratic and progressive values, positions, and policies like my own.

Being 'anti-Clinton' is to reduce serious political disagreement to a childish & emotional game. Sanders is dead on right. We are for him because of what he represents and who he is.

[valerief]

102. Sanders has said he'd support the Dem pick, and I'm sure he'll urge his supporters to do the same.

[bkkyosemite]

103. I will not vote for her....

and it has nothing to do with anti. I was not going to vote for her before Bernie came on the scene. She is in bed with Monsanto (thinks GMO's are peachy keen) and Wall Street. I don't want another Clinton or Bush...enough of the royal families........enough is enough!

[liberal_at_heart]

120. This is why I am not a Democrat. The premise that you must vote for the nominee is ridiculous to me.

No one tells me who I must vote for. If you consider that anti-Clinton then go right ahead. I am an Independent which by the way so is Bernie. He would not tell someone who they must vote for in the general election.

[Cali_Democrat]

9. Sanders is correct. His supporters aren't anti-Hillary

Take DU for example. I rarely see anti-Hillary posts from people here.

Hillary is respected on DU and is almost never attacked. Posters here instead focus on the positive of Bernie Sanders without resorting to attacks against Hillary.

DU is a beacon of light in this regard.

[Capn Sunshine]

14. From this moment on

I have to say, as a Sanders Campaign associate working for the DNC, in real life, you don't see the crazy ass mofokery that you do online. There's a lot of impassioned talk, but not the crazy kind. Especially here in DU and to a lesser extent DKos.

To quote Sanders:

" Democratic leaders are not dumb. What they want and what I want is to make sure that we do not see a Republican gain control over the White House.

And I think as these leaders look around the country and see the kind of energy and see the kind of huge turnouts we’re getting, seeing the kind of young people who, for the first time, are getting involved in the political process, see the kind of working people who are coming out to our events, I think what these leaders — maybe not today but in a couple months will say, you know, we want to win.”

[Tommy2Tone]

52. and to a lesser extent DKos

You mean the DKos that banned me for calling a Bernie supporter delusional?

[OilemFirchen]

16. Hey!

Stop using my material!

[Jamaal510]

125. ...

[bigdarryl]

11. BULLSHIT!!! Bernie all you got to do is look at this site

[LiberalArkie]

34. If anything, things are nicer now than during the HRC and Obama primary fights.

DU has really calmed down since then.

[Scootaloo]

12. Daring to support anyone other than Clinton is construed as "Anti-Clinton" here

And heaven forbid if you say why you prefer another candidate.

[SonderWoman]

25. Or the endless anti-Hillary posts.

Don't forget about those.

[Scootaloo]

35. I.e., posts about why people choose to support someone else. As I said.

I haven't seen anyone accusing Clinton of being a rapist.
Or a defender of pedophiles.
or a gun nut.
or a segregationist.
or for that matter, a white supremacist.
Or of her being a "Republican with her head between women's legs."
I've not seen Sanders supporters claiming they "own" blacks, gays, latinos, or women.
or that Clinton is "more loyal to Tel Aviv."

This is the stuff that's been getting thrown at Sanders near-constantly (you seem fond of the pedophile angle, yourself.) So you'll have to understand that compared to that, pointing out Clinton voted for the Iraq War (she did) and talkign about that as if it's still important (it is) is hardly on the level of "hate."

[JoePhilly]

39. She was called a whore and a jury let it stand.

[Scootaloo]

44. And so did all the posts I noted.

There was one that accused Sanders of hating black people because Jews hate black people got hidden - but the poster is still going strong. Which is really strange for antisemites on DU. I wonder why that is.

[SonderWoman]

43. No, Bernie fans call her much worse.

[Scootaloo]

45. We do, huh? Like what?

[jeff47]

50. AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service

On Mon Sep 21, 2015, 06:55 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

I.e., posts about why people choose to support someone else. As I said.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=611646

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Insults as usual. But it will stand because the jury system is broken and Bernie fans get a pass. I've been personally called more vile stuff here than by any rightwinger. Critiques of candidates is ine thing, then come the personal insults.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Mon Sep 21, 2015, 07:08 PM, and the Jury voted 0-7 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: alert-er is wrong, wrong, wrong. This was no insult, nor was it a personal attack. The post is not over the top, rude or disruptive.
Stop with the pettiness. Alert-er is not a victim here.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Scootaloo didn't insult you, Scootaloo did what you do on message boards when you disagree with a point someone makes, you rebut it.
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: This is the most frivolous alert ever. The person who made it should have to stand in the corner for an hour and then write "I will not waste people's time with stupid alerts" one hundred times on the board after school because that's about the maturity level we're talking about with this alert. Grow up, Mabel.
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Hi SonderWoman. You should stop trying to hide from calling Sanders a protector of pedophiles.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

[Scootaloo]

54. So I want to make sure I get it right.

If the jury had voted to hide, then the alerter is "proven right" that i'm a mean, mean person. But if the jury didn't convict, the alerter is right about how persecuted they are by juries?

That's...

I...

Squirrels...



???

[jeff47]

56. Most. Persecuted. DUer. EVER.

And stop accurately quoting her!!

[merrily]

97. I want a membership in your fan club.

[Scootaloo]

98. Well, fair warning; Newsletter subscription is mandatory n/t

[merrily]

101. You say that like it's a bad thing.

[beam me up scottie]

65. LMAO!

Good jury!

[merrily]

80. +1

[lunamagica]

29. Just reading this thread proves you wrong.The hatred towards HC is palpalble. eom

[Scootaloo]

37. Did you mean to link to another thread or something?

'Cause this one is full of a bunch of clinton supporters proving my point.

"he is completely clueless" - would that be "hate" if it were directed at Clinton? be honest now.

[Maedhros]

73. Just stop with the "hatred" bullshit, OK?

It makes you look petty and ill-informed.

We don't hate Hillary - we just don't want to vote for her.

[merrily]

99. They can't help it.

[Maedhros]

104. It's just such middle-school playground politics.[n/t]

[merrily]

129. I did just finish a post that alluded to an institution, but it was not school.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=612788

I think the level goes well beyond puerile, at least among some posters.

I tend to stay in the Sanders Group. So, when I stick my head out and see again the kind of @#$%@! that drove me in there in the first place, I get a relatively fresh look at it.

The things on the part of Hillary that get dismissed and excused and how. The things that get said and implied about Sanders. And, LMAO, about his "supporters," as though a relative handful of social media people were the millions who cheer him, and as though we were all going to move into the White House with him and have the codes for nuclear war handcuffed to our collective wrist. Or, to revert to the junior high metaphor, as though someone were going to get Sanders supporter cooties by voting for Sanders.

When you read all that after a couple of weeks of not reading much of it, your jaw drops, your eyes get very large and you recoil instinctively.

Sorry. As I said, I just finished the post.

[lunamagica]

109. Who do you think you are to tell me what to post?

FYI, I don't care how I look to you, get it?

[Maedhros]

123. You are accusing people of engaging in hatred, when they aren't.

Maybe a little introspection is in order.

[virtualobserver]

17. Will Hillary ever locate her authentic self?

Will the unfair recitation of her actual record ever stop?

"These questions — and many others — will be answered in the next exciting episode of "Bernie Supporters...are so bad!:

We'll hear Hillary tweet....."Price gouging like this in the specialty drug market is outrageous. Tomorrow I'll lay out a plan to take it on"

In other news, Biotechnology shares tumbled.....

The bully pulpit really works with the stock market....

[Chan790]

100. She's known where it was all along...

[murielm99]

19. More proof of why he would make a poor President:

He can't see what is happening right in front of his face.

And it is not just DU. It is all over the net.

[leftofcool]

20. Exactly!

[virtualobserver]

23. what an "anti-Bernie" statement you just made..it's almost as if you preferred a different candidate

the mistake you are making is thinking that somehow we would choose someone else over Bernie....
that it is merely dislike for Hillary that drives us.

[murielm99]

117. I think it is mostly dislike for Hillary.

That is what I see here, and I will stand by that.

Nothing I said was anti-Bernie. The last time I checked, we were still allowed to criticize him. I said he is short-sighted about his supporters. He is.

[virtualobserver]

118. that is what you imagine, you are projecting that

The last time I checked, we were still allowed to criticize her as well
Criticism of Hillary is not any more anti-Hillary than your criticism of Bernie.

The viewpoints of Bernie supporters are always being characterized as something more
and it is not a fair characterization.

Her 2008 campaign against Obama went over the line with the Dog-whistle politics, and I have never forgiven her for it.

It damaged my ability to believe in her decency on a certain level, so I am carefully scrutinizing what she is doing. I have heard this over and over from other Bernie supporters as well.

Bernie wouldn't play that kind of political game in a million years, and I like his stance on every issue.
I trust him.

So, what I am saying is.....I'm anti-Dog-whistle politics, I'm anti-SuperPACS, I'm anti-TPP

which is why I am FOR Bernie over Hillary.

[murielm99]

119. I have seen her called a whore.

When the post was alerted, it was allowed to stand. I have seen his supporters call her a liar. Those were allowed to stand. If I called Bernie a liar, I would have fifteen alerts. I have been told to fuck off, and the posts were allowed to stand.

I have seen distorted news articles, articles from blatantly right wing sources and out and out lies allowed to stand about Clinton. And I have seen DU members mass alerted for being critical of Sanders. Some of them are not necessarily Clinton supporters, either.

I know what I am seeing. There is no projecting going on.

[virtualobserver]

121. whore as metaphor is quite different from calling someone a literal whore

That kind of term is thrown about a lot in our society in terms of things that people and especially politicians do for money in this society. Personally, I would never alert for a metaphor.

Her story about the Bosnia sniper fire would be just one example that would allow for someone to reasonably think that truth is not always her friend, even if Hillary supporters were not comfortable with that label.

As for being told to "fuck off" , that should get more than a hide....I would think that you could be directly banned for that by those in charge of DU. Do you have a link to that?

****on edit....found that post.....I would have hidden it**********



as for "distorted news articles, articles from blatantly right wing sources and poorly sourced left wing articles" I've seen those about Bernie as well." I don't alert on them, I just respond. I think I've alerted once in the 11 years I've been on DU. (clear right wing troll in that one instance)

[lunamagica]

31. He is completely clueless. eom

[JoePhilly]

42. I think he's trying to get them to tone it down a tad.

He knows that to win the nomination, he has to get lots of people who like Hillary to switch to him.

Attacking her endlessly, and calling her supporters Republican-lite, won't get those people to switch. It will just make them tune him and his supporters out.

He gets it. Many of them don't.

[demwing]

32. Im not anti-Hillary

But I'm not pro-Hillary either. Unfortunately, on DU, that makes me anti-Hillary to some...

[Capn Sunshine]

40. I hear ya

I'm not pro or anti- Bernie. I'm not Pro or anti Hillary.

What I am , is pro Democratic candidates up and down the ticket.
Which is going to require a LOT of legwork.

[Bucky]

38. If I decide to support Sanders, it'll be because he's not Clinton.

Call me Bubble Land, I guess. But I worry about his electability... almost as much as I worry about Clinton's.

[FloridaBlues]

41. You wouldn't know that by the postings in DU!

[moobu2]

47. lol good one.

[DCBob]

51. Well, that may be Bernie's first completely false statement.

[jeff47]

55. This is a large example of the difference between the supporters.

The vast majority of Sanders supporters do not hate Clinton. They hate her policies.

The vast majority of Clinton supporters appear to like Clinton. Her policies seem to be secondary. So Clinton supporters assume Sanders supporters hate Clinton instead of hating her policies.

And then a few random cranks give them all the ammunition they need to claim it really is personal.

For the record, I don't hate Clinton. I don't know her at all. I hate Clinton's policies.

[pinebox]

57. I don't care for her

and yes Bernie is wrong, many don't.

[Maedhros]

75. Bernie is not responsible for how we think or act. [n/t]

[restorefreedom]

64. criticizing someone

for their POLICY is not anti person...its anti policy

why is this so hard to understand?

i will continue to criticize hillary for her hawkish positions, her cozy relationship with Wall Street, her vote for the iraq war, her refusal to take positions on major issues that people are asking about now, her unwillingness to support Glass-Steagall, her hiding behind dws because she is afraid to debate her peers, and her shameless hoovering of campaign money from corporate tax cheats.

if you all want to think that is hating someone, then you clearly don't know hate.

[jeff47]

70. Yes, it really is hard for them to understand.

It is not the same model they are using in selecting their candidate.

[restorefreedom]

74. kinda sad. nt

[beam me up scottie]

68. You mean like when DUers said she

was a racist, a gun nut, a Republican man with his head between women's legs, or that she protects the minutemen militia, pedophiles, racist cops, has rape fantasies and thought that orgasms prevented cancer.

Oh wait, those were HC supporters talking about Bernie.

My bad.

[merrily]

76. It's not hate. We're just not all that into tapioca.

http://upload.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1280&pid=42779

[Chan790]

79. Some of us are anti-Clinton and have been a lot longer than we've been supporters of Sanders. n/t

[bigwillq]

82. I am anti-Clinton (nt)

[oasis]

83. Not all the anti-Hills at DU are Bernie supporters

or even Democrats for that matter.

[aikoaiko]

85. If it were a simple matter of hating Clinton, we'd choose O"Malley.

The bubble is in your mind.

[artislife]

86. I think most are not at all inspired by Clinton

The growth of the emotions is due to being the top dog v the under dog. Neither likes the perceive traits of the other. One is the patronizing and the other is the rebellion.

On this site, the more we tangle, the more we don't like each other in general. We have really created the polarity. Out there as well, there is the meme that she is going to be our next president and the people who have a problem with it, hear it and rebel. Emotions get heated.


Just like every election. This is not new, this is not bad H supporters, bad Bernie supporters. Doesn't anyone remember 2008, 2000 or before. We duke it out. We have very different candidates vying for the top spot.

So I wish everyone would chill on the victimization, because that is the biggest thing that causes one side to dislike the other side. Almost as big as issues.....which is STILL NUMBER ONE for the emotions on both sides.

Whether it be the issue of electability v against the 1%.

[Autumn]

96. I'm not anti Clinton. I just don't like her or want her in the White House.

I think she's one of the best First Ladies we have ever had. I think of myself as Pro Bernie. GO BERNIE!!!!!!

[ibegurpard]

105. She's my second choice after Bernie

Very distant second choice to be sure but yeah.

[frylock]

107. Sanders booed by Clinton supporters on his birthday

try and fuckin spin this. Your lines of attack are as stale as your candidate.

[beam me up scottie]

110. That was classy.

[frylock]

112. Worked to shut this shit down.

[beam me up scottie]

113. Yes it did.

I'll have to remember that.

[fadedrose]

114. Bernie, you were right 1000% of the time

but you are finally wrong. It's okay. We all forgive you.

No time for the link, am going off..

[cherokeeprogressive]

115. I'm not "Anti-Clinton"...

I'm simply pro every other Democrat.

There's a difference.

[libodem]

116. I'm not antiClinton in the least

And I'll be there in the general if it comes to that.

Big Bernie fan for now.

The Bengazi deal is bullshit and so is the server foolishness. All of us can see that.

[McCamy Taylor]

122. His real supporters are not Anti-Clinton. This is true.

But anti-Clinton people can say they support anyone---and then use it as an excuse to vent their spleen.

[Jamaal510]

124. There are a few

Sanders supporters here and elsewhere who are more about being pro-Sanders than anti-anybody, but they get drowned out and don't get as much attention. As a person who supports neither him nor HC as my #1 choice (but still am OK with both), those types of supporters are fine in my book. I respect posters like that who don't spread negativity or misinformation about candidates within the party, or intimidate supporters of other candidates. They're the ones following BS's words about not running a negative campaign against the other candidates. As far as his supporters as a whole not being anti-Clinton, that's looking a bit dicey each day I spend time on here and other left-leaning sites. He might want to come on down to DU or DKos one of these days.

[leftynyc]

132. LOL

Sorry, Bernie. All you have to do is spend 10 minutes right here on DU to put that lie to rest. Or perhaps he's trying to send a message to his more...shall we say....fervent supporters to knock the crap off.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

137. This one is.

[Beacool]

139. Seriously?

He should read DU..........