Bernie's popularity means moving to a bigger venue for Saturday's Charleston, SC Rally

[KoKo]

Bernie Sanders Popularity Means Moving to a Bigger Venue for Saturday rally

http://www.postandcourier.com/article/20150819/PC1603/150819299

Two months ago, organizers figured Bernie Sanders’s local supporters could fit in the International Longshoremen’s Association hall, which holds a few hundred people.

By the time it was rescheduled for Saturday night after the June rally was postponed because of the killings at Emanuel AME Church, it had been moved to Burke High School’s gymnasium to accommodate a larger crowd.

Now, the Vermont senator’s first appearance in the Lowcountry as a candidate for president has been moved again — to the Charleston Convention Center in North Charleston, where organizers are hoping for a capacity crowd of 3,000.

The decision to book bigger venues reflects Sanders’ growing popularity among Democrats looking for a more liberal alternative to front-runner Hillary Clinton.

“Superman is coming,” said Rachel Reese, of West Ashley, a Sanders supporter. “He is getting so much attention, it’s mind-boggling.”

Reese said she is backing Sanders, an independent who’s often described as a socialist, because of the agenda he espouses, which includes reversing climate change, taking on Wall Street, universal health care, raising the minimum wage and pay equity for women.

“He’s tapping into the heart of America and the frustration we’re having about the rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer,” she said. “It’s frightening.”

The start time is 7 p.m. and is open to all on a first come, first served basis until the center is full.

Sanders on Friday begins a two-day swing through South Carolina, his first foray as an officially announced candidate.

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Muhiyidin d’Baha, an organizer with the local Black Lives Matter group, said members will get together Friday night at the International Longshoremen’s Union Hall on Morrison Drive in Charleston for a round-table on Sanders’ racial justice platform.
“We’ll be heard, one way or the other,” he said.

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College of Charleston political scientist Kendra Stewart said while it appears Sanders is tapping into the left, she said the movement is something bigger, comparing it to what New York real estate mogul Donald Trump is doing on the Republican side. She called it “the anti-government, anti-corruption movement.”

“American voters feel alienated from government and I think Bernie Sanders is tapping into that, and that’s what’s appealing,” she said.

[azmom]

1. K&R

[cosmicone]

2. Political game

Book a small venue first .. then announce that you've to move to a bigger venue to suggest that your support is increasing.

Machiavellian tactic which will eventually blow up in one's face.

[jeff47]

3. Yeah, much better to have an empty overflow area at your announcement speech. (nt)

[frylock]

7. Clinton will never have to worry about booking larger venues..

she drew, what, 900 in Las Vegas?! 300 in Reno vs Sanders 4000+? I can't believe people are trying to peddle this crap!

[WillyT]

5. LOL !!!

[frylock]

6. Did this talking point come from on high, or is it organic to DU?

In any case, nah.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251531124#post13

[cosmicone]

10. It is pretty obvious to anyone with more than half a brain n/t

[frylock]

11. It would seem so, but here you are with this nonsense..

I know these enormous crowds are intimidating to Team Clinton, and that's what's spawned these ridiculous posts, but I have a question for you: do you think it pragmatic that Sanders should book the largest venue in town right out of the gate? Does that make a whole lot of sense to you? Romney tried that once.

[cosmicone]

12. Smart and competent people figure out what the expeted demand would be

and rarely are off the mark. Restaurants know how much coffee to order, ostoco knows how much toilet paper to order, McDonalds knows how many french fries to order.

Now, it is even easier -- Bernie should know how many people have donated from a given catchment area, how many twitter/facebook/instagram/whatsapp supporters they have from a given area and a % of how many will attend +/-10%.

I can see the venue changing once or twice but when it becomes a routine AND it is used for a political purpose by advertising "oh we are going to get far more people, we need a HUGE room now", it is a Machiavellian ploy. To me, it screams "INCOMPETENCE".

Can you image Starbucks saying, "sorry folks, we are all out of coffee" or an airline saying, "sorry, all flights to XXX are full for 3 months, come back in April?"

[frylock]

14. Yeah, well you just run with that theory then..

Team Clinton can just keep on running their 1996-style campaign and wonder what the fuck happened when Sanders starts to steamroll. But don't feel too badly; maybe Hillary can reach capacity at the Elk's Lodge, or maybe hold a town hall in that empty overflow area from her vaunted announcement.

on edit: 27,500 showed up to see Sanders in LA. How the fuck does anyone predict that turnout? If Sanders had originally booked the Sports Arena, the talking point circulating in the HRC group would be 'Egomaniac Socialist Bernie Sanders actually thinks he's going to fill that arena'.

[cosmicone]

16. Hillary lost in 2008 ONLY because she took the small red state caucuses

for granted. Populated by a vast majority of African Americans, those caucuses overwhelmingly voted for Barack Obama. Obama lost EVERY major primary except Illinois but the delegates were not enough to clinch the nomination.

Obama was also a card-carrying DEMOCRAT who had spoken at the national convention and helped many fellow democrats win with speeches and support long before he ran for POTUS. Note that Obama was not sitting in Vermont (a 95% white state with a population 1/10th of Chicago) coddling socialism and how he was independent.

Hillary will not make the mistake of taking small red states for granted again. Bernie is not African American or was ever close to AA life's struggles. Yes, he marched with MLK Jr. but a lot of elite whites did. Hillary and Bill have actually worked in the trenches.

[frylock]

17. Then it's in the bag, and you have nothing to fret about..

yet here you are.....

[cosmicone]

20. Who said I was worried?

I am enjoying this immensely.

Every time I see BS posts and the effervescent/ebullient responses from the cult, I think of the line, "Did you know that the latest Oxford English Dictionary forgot to include the word gullible?"

[cali]

21. your now self deleted post in

latest breaking contradicts that claim. I served on the jury btw. I voted to leave it because, as I remarked, it's good for people to see posters like you reveal themselves.

And, your dumb snark about Sanders supporters being cultists? Unoriginal bullshit as well as lame.

[cosmicone]

24. I have 4 posts hidden and all unfairly on a 4:3 vote

With DU being 75%+ pro-Bernie, we don't get a fair chance to state our views.

Every HRC supporter has to walk on eggshells around here because of this tendency to hide our posts criticizing Bernie while posts unfairly criticizing HRC are left alone. The post that I self-deleted was on the money. There was nothing in it to deserve a hide but I self-deleted knowing that it would get hidden by the faithful.

On the other hand, look at this:

I thought we were to supposed to support Hillary in order to help her avenge the
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[cali]

25. you are whining to the wrong person. the post you deleted was vile.

[frylock]

23. If you're not worried, then why spend so much time arguing with Sanders supporters?

It's like Carville cutting his vaycay short to get on the teevee last night to freakout... errr tell everyone that nobody on team Clinton is freaking out. Because everyone cuts their vacation short to rush back to work when things are going swimmingly, right? Clinton supporters here reminding everyone 24/7 that Sanders has no chance at winning the nom betrays their claims of being unconcerned.

[cali]

15. so he's simultaneously Machiavellian and incompetent

And the rest of your post rises to the same level of absurdity.

But please, please keep digging. It's highly entertaining.

[cosmicone]

18. It is one or the other ... your pick! n/t

[cali]

22. lol. I love irony.

[cali]

13. way to demonstrate your lack of knowledge about Machiavelli.

Did you even read the Cliff notes?

[AppalachianLeftist]

19. "Cunning, scheming, and unscrupulous"

Yeah, that sounds just like Bernie Sanders.

[TexasBushwhacker]

26. It was originally scheduled right after the Charleston

church shootings, so that reservation was probably made some time in May, before his campaign gained much momentum. Being a very red state, I think estimating a few hundred would show up was probably optimistic at the time.

[libdem4life]

4. I think maybe I've heard it all. "Bernie books little bitty venues so he can look

better and have to upgrade," That takes imagination beyond which most people could pull off.

Bernstorming...I like that one.

[Uncle Joe]

8. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, KoKo.

[CTyankee]

9. My granddaughter is at the College of Charleston and she just went back down

for her sophomore year. Hope she gets to go to the event!

[MuseRider]

27. How about this.

After being told he would not ever make even a dent in the election we are excited. So we post about it.

Each time this happens, if it was another candidate, it would be haled as a brilliant campaign strategy. Instead it is because BS's team is incompetent and we are all a bunch of gullible cultists (gee, how brilliant and original you are?).

Did it ever occur to any of you geniuses out there that this is a campaign running on our small donations and the larger venues are far more expensive. I am sure by now most places are booked for the smaller groups and a secondary site is located for just in case. So far they need the larger venues. This is a frugal campaign but even if not it is a brilliant campaign strategy for someone who is less in the news with smaller but growing name recognition. Come ON, these are not dumb people. I don't care which it is, it is working.

Perhaps another candidate would like to use the reserved smaller space that he does not need anymore? OK, that is nasty but after what I just read it feels OK to me just this once.

EDIT sorry this was meant for another poster not for you