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Bernie Sanders meets with 'long-time friend' Jesse JacksonBy Dan Merica, CNN
Updated 7:58 AM ET, Tue August 18, 2015
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Washington (CNN)Bernie Sanders met with civil rights leader Jesse Jackson on Monday in Chicago amid an active push by his campaign to more forcefully address race and criminal justice issues.
"Sen. Sanders is a long-time friend of Rev. Jackson. They held a very productive, hour-long meeting at Operation PUSH headquarters on important issues confronting the country and the African-American community," Michael Briggs, Sanders' campaign spokesman, said in an email to CNN.
Jackson tweeted about the meeting on Monday, noting that Sanders' wife, Jane, joined the gathering.
"Meeting today with @SenSanders and wife today @RPCoalition Headquarters," he wrote.
Rev Jesse Jackson Sr (@RevJJackson) August 17, 2015
Jackson and Sanders have history together: The independent senator endorsed Jackson's failed 1984 and 1988 presidential campaigns.
Representatives for Jackson did not immediately respond to requests for comment.
Since launching his presidential campaign earlier this year, Sanders has been dogged by questions about his ability to effectively advocate for criminal justice reform and win over African-American voters. Protestors from Black Lives Matter, a nationwide movement focused on the death of African-American men and women at the hand of police, ended a Sanders appearance earlier this month in Seattle and have protested a handful of other events.
Sanders' campaign has tried to address the issue. The candidate has worked race and justice issues into nearly every speech he gives, and the campaign has hired Symone Sanders, a young African-American woman, as their national press secretary.
Representatives from the campaign have also reached out to Deray McKesson, an influential Black Lives Matter activist with a large social media presence, about setting up a meeting.
Sanders account responded: "@deray Let's do it. We will PM you this week to arrange."
Bernie Sanders (@BernieSanders) August 17, 2015
Briggs would not confirm when the meeting with McKesson would happen, but said the campaign is working to schedule meetings with "many different people."
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Link: http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/17/politics/bernie-sanders-jesse-jackson-black-lives-matter/
LWolf
(46,179 posts)not surprised. It's the way he does things.
He knows what to do and when he wants to work things in. So BLM has caused him to move forward something he was not ready to move forward. He will be fine, he was never going to leave it out it is just happening earlier than he planned.
Zorra
(27,670 posts)for all of us.
Seriously, can you imagine the win?
WillyT
(72,631 posts)RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)Let's see what kind of bounce the polls take!
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)Why do you think he didn't do it right after the meeting with Sanders?
delrem
(9,688 posts)Bernie Sanders is most copacetic with Jesse Jackson's goals in politics.
As based on experience, eg.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251526702#post8
You might not be able to understand that. But others do.
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)that seem to logically connect to the past.
I just wondered if there was more than that.
Same thing with my since the endorsement didn't come, when it might.
delrem
(9,688 posts)So why your question?
You want something besides reason, logic, and rational thought?
It's a plain fact that Jesse Jackson might not endorse Sanders. In that case some of us will have to re-examine what we thought were logical connections to the past - re. Jesse Jackson, Bernie Sanders, progressive politics in general. But this is still VERY early in the primaries so who knows, maybe even Elizabeth Warren will "endorse" some candidate (but I doubt she will). Perhaps both Jesse Jackson and Elizabeth Warren will endorse Hillary Rodham Clinton. Anything is possible and "logical connections" aren't always or even much more than often reliable, in politics.
RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)From what I have observed, most folks do not understand prediction that is based on reason, logic, historical events, as well as rational thought. Plain and simple. They have to have everything handed to them on a silver platter, as my mother used to say!
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)Because you've taken a W.A.G. about my background, and you suspicions about me, and your leaps of reason are evidence of faulting reasoning.
The meeting of Sanders with Jackson, may, or may not have been about an endorsement. I leave that open, their history suggests that they have a long friendly relationship. If that history was filled with identical events, we might contemplate coming up with some sort of probability rule to guide a projection into the future. But, actually the sample size is pretty small to expect such to be anything but people trained in biological system analysis and simulation , like myself, would call a W.A.G. Sometimes W.A.G.s are correct, sometimes they're not. Sometimes their useful as a speculation to consider how a perspective can influence interpretation of available evidence. But W.A.G.
The endorsement we all might hope for didn't emerge. So maybe it wasn't about an endorsement. If the endorsement had emerged we'd know perfectly well what the meeting was about. But it didn't. So we don't know. It might have been about an endorsement, that wasn't forthcoming at this time or it might have been about something else.
As we also know, Sanders (and others) are also dealing with BLM and Sanders may have seen Jackson for advice about that. Friends and old associates do seek each other out for advice, especially when needed experience and expertise is available. But we don't know.
What exists is competing possibilities. I asked to see if there was anything more suggestive.
Based on the above asking questions is apparently a suspicious and thereby bad/threatening thing.
It's possible to avoid dealing with people who get out of sorts for no real reason, and I think I will
RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)I simply don't know.
Spirochete
(5,264 posts)I think.
winterwar
(210 posts)My parents wanted him to be president when I was a kid. He came out and marched with the Union protesters at the Capitol here in MI when the list Rick Snyder passed right to work here. He is a great ally to have.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)PicturingPolitics
(12 posts)delrem
(9,688 posts)They don't like that the progressive message hasn't changed, as they've wielded their power through successive "centrist" D and R admins to cause untold and exponentially more harmful damage in every sphere. They don't like the word 'progressive' unless it is totally brutalized by them, rendered meaningless, and in that brutally meaningless, forgetful, fictional world, their candidates can claim to be "progressive" even while slandering progressive leaders. Swift-boating them. Playing dirty tricks. Refusing to discuss their own past, refusing to discuss the actual.
eta: when I use the term "swift-boating" I mean it in the original sense first and foremost.