Another Email Mess for Hillary Clinton: These Reveal She Opposed Pro-LGBT Changes at State Dept.

[XemaSab]

There's word this morning that a newly released batch of emails sent by Democratic presidential front-runner Hillary Clinton reportedly show she opposed a policy change at the State Department that would have accommodated same-sex parents and worried that such a change would become fodder for Sarah Palin and Fox News. The terms "mother" and "father" would have been changed to the gender-neutral term "parent," reports the Washington Blade.

Writing in 2011 in response to a Washington Post story about this proposed bureaucratic change, Clinton expressed her consternation that the modification could be a political hot potato and made her opposition to the change for nonpolitical reasons clear. The next day, the Post reported that the policy change had been nixed.

“Who made the decision that State will not use the terms ‘mother and father’ and instead substitute ‘parent one and two’?” Clinton wrote in an email to her assistant, Cheryl Mills.

“I’m not defending that decision, which I disagree w and knew nothing about, in front of this Congress. I could live w letting people in nontraditional families choose another descriptor so long as we retained the presumption of mother and father. We need to address this today or we will be facing a huge Fox-generated media storm led by Palin et al.”
At the time, Clinton supported civil unions but still opposed marriage equality, and Republicans had just taken control of the House of Representatives after the Tea Party sweep in the midterm election. Clinton's reasons for opposing the change were not made public at that time.

http://www.advocate.com/election/2015/10/01/hillary-clinton-opposed-pro-lgbt-changes-state-department

[annavictorious]

1. My daughter is an HIV/AIDS activist in Washington State

Sanders made quite an impression this week.

https://www.washingtonblade.com/2016/05/27/hivaids-activists-disgruntled-with-sanders-after-meeting/
http://americablog.com/2016/05/aids-activists-blast-sanders-lying-meeting.html

[Wilms]

5. And...

According to your first link, everyone was happy...at first.

The discontent marks a change tone from the news statement from HIV/AIDS activists immediately after the meeting. At the time, they praised Sanders for taking part in the discussion and said he made a commitment to ensuring the Democratic Party platform will include a plank on the need to increase generic competition for pharmaceutical production of HIV/AIDS drugs, such as by reducing U.S. pressure on India to change its patent laws. The Sanders campaign didn’t go as far as to say a commitment was made, but said the candidate hopes that language is included in the platform.

So what happened? Did your daughter say??

Good reading here, BTW.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1280203557

What is David Brock's perspective on it?

[Bluenorthwest]

9. I have been an AIDS activist since the 80's, during the time Hillary claims only Ronald and Nancy

Reagan had the courage to be AIDS activists. The fact that none of Hillary's supporters had a cross word for her about those lies makes their selective outrage over this manufactured story ring less than true.

[tularetom]

2. Yup, what this country needs is a Democrat president who is afraid of Palin

Clinton's position is just wrong, and her reasoning demonstrates the level of cowardice she has exhibited for the entirety of her life in politics.

She doesn't mind beating up on hippies because she knows they won't fight back. But she treads very lightly around right wing pundits and talk radio.

I'm convinced that fear of being branded a peacenik by limbaugh, beck and the other Hitler youth had a lot to do with her vote for the Iraq War Resolution.

[JudyM]

11. To your point about why she voted for IWR, I agree, it was about positioning herself as tough enough

to be president down the road. That deplorable line she gave us about how she voted for it because Bush had been there for "her state" of NY after 9/11, and so she was going to trust him/reward him with her vote, was a coverup about the far worse truth: pure political calculation that it would help her look tough enough to be president.

She was too chicken or too selfish to be a *woman* with principles.

[JoePhilly]

3. Recycled debunked outrage.

[TheBlackAdder]

4. Can you post where this was debunked?

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I'll then trash others for using this talking point in the future.


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[IdaBriggs]

8. Here is the link to the Wikileaks Email -- not debunked.

https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/24712

UNCLASSIFIED U.S. Department of State Case No. F-2014-20439 Doc No. C05785708

Date: 10/30/2015 RELEASE IN FULL
From: H <[email protected] >
Sent: Saturday, January 8, 2011 8:06 AM
To: '[email protected]';'[email protected]'

Subject: Wash Post article

Who made the decision that State will not use the terms "mother and father" and instead substitute "parent one and two"? I'm not defending that decision, which I disagree w and knew nothing about, in front of this Congress. I could live w letting people in nontraditional families choose another descriptor so long as we retained the presumption of mother and father. We need to address this today or we will be facing a huge Fox-generated media storm led by Palin et al.

And then the reply just says "Reaching out to folks to find out" which does not say "debunked" to me.

[AtomicKitten]

6. Pres Obama made the changes she took credit for.

Brings to mind the saying, watch what they do, not what they say.

[cui bono]

7. Again, it's all about her and people's perception of her. Fuck doing the right thing.

She could care less about anyone or anything other than herself.

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[AzDar]

10. K & R