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Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
Tue May 24, 2016, 07:47 AM May 2016

LUPICA: Bernie Sanders keeps fighting as if Hillary Clinton’s big lead is a huge lie

Sanders stays in the race because his own rhetoric has become a narcotic for him; because he really has convinced himself he is the face and voice of a revolution.~ Mike Lupica




The longer Bernie Sanders stays in the race against Hillary Clinton, and the more he is carried along by the roar of his crowds, we’re clearly supposed to buy certain items wholesale from him, starting with the big one: He’s apparently the only honest politician left in America.
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Only none of these things happen to be true, no matter how many times, and how earnestly, Sanders says them. By the way? Did Sanders not know the rules of engagement before he got into the thing? He acts now as if they changed the rules on him in the middle of the game, or as soon as he started to draw crowds that have rivaled Trump’s, and win some primaries and caucuses. He acts as if he’s beating Clinton like a drum even though she’s gotten 2.9 million more votes than he has, at least according to the Washington Post.
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But when Stephanopoulos comes back at him and asks if he is describing Clinton vs. Trump as the lesser of two evils, giving Sanders the chance to say that is exactly what he meant, he says this instead: “I wouldn’t describe it, but that’s what the American people are saying.” This from the guy who fancies himself the heavyweight championship standup guy of the world.
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So he will stay in this race until the middle of June, sticking to his story that he’s not hurting Clinton or hurting her chances against Trump by doing that, which happens to be thinking made out of moonbeams. Is he kidding? It has already reached the point where Trump quoting Bernie on Hillary Clinton or talking about how Bernie says she lacks judgment is just one more part of the campaign that should be a drinking game.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/lupica-bernie-refuses-lacks-votes-win-article-1.2646026



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Very cogent analysis by Lupica of the Bern's crazed campaign.
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LUPICA: Bernie Sanders keeps fighting as if Hillary Clinton’s big lead is a huge lie (Original Post) Surya Gayatri May 2016 OP
middle of June? Jack Bone May 2016 #1
He was on Morning Scar today and sounded VERY cogent. The proofreader screwed up. Stuff happens. Surya Gayatri May 2016 #2
Not talking about the convention taking about the last primary on June 14 Godhumor May 2016 #19
have you listened to Bernie? Jack Bone May 2016 #23
Hilliary stayed in the race until June 7, 2008 Perogie May 2016 #3
Who gives a flying shag if he stays in...THAT IS NOT THE ISSUE. Surya Gayatri May 2016 #5
To a "yuuuuge" number of people Clinton IS the "lesser of two evils" Armstead May 2016 #11
Hillary was 62 pledged delegates behind Obama in June of 2008. eom MohRokTah May 2016 #12
That's what you're supposed to do in competiton apnu May 2016 #4
.../... Surya Gayatri May 2016 #6
Doen't change what I said. apnu May 2016 #9
DU rec...nt SidDithers May 2016 #7
Hiya! Surya Gayatri May 2016 #8
They've spent the last two months convincing themselves that it is a lie, so that's not surprising alcibiades_mystery May 2016 #10
"self-deluded and enbubbled"... Surya Gayatri May 2016 #29
Sanders is staying in the race because he knows that he's the only one that can beat Trump. Dawgs May 2016 #13
He is staying in the race because he continues to disregard the will of the voters who have... DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #14
No. He doesn't want Trump as our next President. Dawgs May 2016 #15
He is staying in the race because he has no regard for the democratic process. DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #16
Got it. You prefer that he drop out so that Trump becomes our next president. Dawgs May 2016 #17
You think you are better than people of color and women over 30 who have given her a massive lead. DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #18
None of that. Just don't want a President Trump. n/t Dawgs May 2016 #20
Then vote for his opponent, if you want. That's your choice. DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #21
I disagree. n/t Dawgs May 2016 #22
K&R mcar May 2016 #24
Dubious conclusions based on arguably false premises. aikoaiko May 2016 #25
Mike Lupica would be delighted to hear your views--the link is at the bottom of the OP. Surya Gayatri May 2016 #30
Cut the crap. frylock May 2016 #34
I post what I like, thank you. And, if I don't choose to reply to BS, that's my privilege. Surya Gayatri May 2016 #36
You play the game the same way regardless of score to the horn. TheKentuckian May 2016 #26
.../... Surya Gayatri May 2016 #31
Mike Lupica is a slimeball. Eric J in MN May 2016 #27
Lupica sucked as a sports columnist. He's even worse as a political bullwinkle428 May 2016 #37
The pledged delegates count is Hillary with 1,768 and Bernie with 1,497. A delta of 251 delegates. CentralMass May 2016 #28
It's up to Hillary to convince the voters to vote for her. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2016 #32
Writer doesn't know what a convention is for. Orsino May 2016 #33
Hillary keeps fighting as if she didn't lie about the FBI investigation. frylock May 2016 #35

Godhumor

(6,437 posts)
19. Not talking about the convention taking about the last primary on June 14
Tue May 24, 2016, 09:09 AM
May 2016

That would be when "the last vote is counted" and Bernie will concede and release delegates.

So in until the middle of June is very accurate.

Jack Bone

(2,023 posts)
23. have you listened to Bernie?
Tue May 24, 2016, 09:44 AM
May 2016

He's going to the convention as a candidate...he's not releasing anything until the 1st ballot.

bank on it.

lupika's a joke

Perogie

(687 posts)
3. Hilliary stayed in the race until June 7, 2008
Tue May 24, 2016, 08:07 AM
May 2016

Can all of you shut up and let Bernie have the same as when Hilliary ran in 2008? After June 7 then you all can bitch about Bernie staying in too long.


Hilliary thought that being down 200 delegates was reason enough to stay in the race.





 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
5. Who gives a flying shag if he stays in...THAT IS NOT THE ISSUE.
Tue May 24, 2016, 08:15 AM
May 2016

Did you not grasp the main point of the piece?

It's the WAY he's "staying in", doing Trump's heavy lifting for him.

"It has already reached the point where Trump quoting Bernie on Hillary Clinton or talking about how Bernie says she lacks judgment is just one more part of the campaign that should be a drinking game."


His campaign has degenerated into a sad delusional, destructive rant.
 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
11. To a "yuuuuge" number of people Clinton IS the "lesser of two evils"
Tue May 24, 2016, 08:30 AM
May 2016

That is a common phrase used to describe classic Hobbsian choices between bad and worse.

To a very, very large segment of the population, that is what this election has come down to-- two public figures with high unfavorablity long before most people had ever heard of Bernie Sanders.

Trump is the worse, as he has serious psychological issues, and has chosen to channel the worst aspects of conservatism in his sales pitch.

Clinton is someone who many people don't trust, and don't like -- or don't like as a presiudential candidate. For many of a progressive/liberal orientation, she also is a product of what they see as a long term sell out of the Democratic Party to Corporate Interests, Wall St. and the Elites. And many believe the Democrats should be turning the page from Clintonism and the politics of the 90's.

Saying that is not being an egomaniac, or unrealistic or anything else. It's the facts as many, many people perceive them -- including many liberals/progressives and Democratic loyalists.

Don't shoot Bernie for being a messenger for that fact. Instead of shooting the messenger you should deal with the message..

apnu

(8,756 posts)
4. That's what you're supposed to do in competiton
Tue May 24, 2016, 08:09 AM
May 2016

Be it politics or sport or anything else. Always conduct yourself as if you can win, always compete to the very last second.

apnu

(8,756 posts)
9. Doen't change what I said.
Tue May 24, 2016, 08:22 AM
May 2016

Bernie is doing what he's supposed to do when behind in a competition.

The rest of your point is outside and off-topic to what I said.

This time, in 2008, what you said is what was said of Clinton staying in against Obama. Now Clinton is in Obama's position and Bernie is Clinton. Its May, nobody really cares outside of the parties. Trump can say and do whatever he wants, America isn't really paying attention yet.

Besides, Trump's mouth and ego are so large, he doesn't need Bernie's help on anything and doesn't want Bernie's help on anything.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
10. They've spent the last two months convincing themselves that it is a lie, so that's not surprising
Tue May 24, 2016, 08:30 AM
May 2016

Only the last heady days of the Romney campaign were as self-deluded and enbubbled as the Sandersism of Spring 2016.

 

Dawgs

(14,755 posts)
13. Sanders is staying in the race because he knows that he's the only one that can beat Trump.
Tue May 24, 2016, 08:52 AM
May 2016

It's what many of us know, and it's the reason we rec the 'Trump is beating Hillary' threads. It's not because we want Trump to beat Hillary, it's because we don't want to see the Democratic party pick a loser. It's because we don't want a President Trump.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
14. He is staying in the race because he continues to disregard the will of the voters who have...
Tue May 24, 2016, 08:56 AM
May 2016

He is staying in the race because he continues to disregard the will of the voters who have rejected him.


 

Dawgs

(14,755 posts)
15. No. He doesn't want Trump as our next President.
Tue May 24, 2016, 08:58 AM
May 2016

He actually cares about ALL Americans and he knows the Hillary voters also don't want a President Trump. This isn't about Hillary.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
18. You think you are better than people of color and women over 30 who have given her a massive lead.
Tue May 24, 2016, 09:08 AM
May 2016
You and him think you are better than people of color and women over 30 who have given her a massive lead and arrogate to yourselves the power to disregard their votes.


"Good to know."




DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
21. Then vote for his opponent, if you want. That's your choice.
Tue May 24, 2016, 09:14 AM
May 2016

In America the person with the votes wins, at least that is how it should be...

frylock

(34,825 posts)
34. Cut the crap.
Tue May 24, 2016, 02:53 PM
May 2016

You keep deflecting with that shit response. If you don't want to have a discussion, then quit posting threads.

TheKentuckian

(25,026 posts)
26. You play the game the same way regardless of score to the horn.
Tue May 24, 2016, 09:53 AM
May 2016

If you don't like it then go catch a tee ball game somewhere or remember in 2008 that your goddess of light was still running, talking about hard working white people, and invoking Bobby Kennedy's assassination after declaring she and McShame were ready to be Commander in Chief but Obama wasn't.

Get out of here with your entitled and dishonest meowing.

Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)
27. Mike Lupica is a slimeball.
Tue May 24, 2016, 09:54 AM
May 2016

We want candidates to join the Democratic Party to avoid another Ralph Nader situation.

Mike Lupica responds to Sanders joining the Democratic Party by denouncing Sanders as a "Third Party candidate."

If everyone acts as slimy as Mike Lupica then we're going to get another Ralph Nader in a future election.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
32. It's up to Hillary to convince the voters to vote for her.
Tue May 24, 2016, 10:12 AM
May 2016

Maybe she should consider another line of work if she can't do so. I understand that she's done well as a speaker for capitalists.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
33. Writer doesn't know what a convention is for.
Tue May 24, 2016, 10:19 AM
May 2016

Confused by bright lights and loud noises, he panics and wishes for the hard braining to be over.

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