2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumLUPICA: Bernie Sanders keeps fighting as if Hillary Clinton’s big lead is a huge lie
The longer Bernie Sanders stays in the race against Hillary Clinton, and the more he is carried along by the roar of his crowds, were clearly supposed to buy certain items wholesale from him, starting with the big one: Hes apparently the only honest politician left in America.
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Only none of these things happen to be true, no matter how many times, and how earnestly, Sanders says them. By the way? Did Sanders not know the rules of engagement before he got into the thing? He acts now as if they changed the rules on him in the middle of the game, or as soon as he started to draw crowds that have rivaled Trumps, and win some primaries and caucuses. He acts as if hes beating Clinton like a drum even though shes gotten 2.9 million more votes than he has, at least according to the Washington Post.
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But when Stephanopoulos comes back at him and asks if he is describing Clinton vs. Trump as the lesser of two evils, giving Sanders the chance to say that is exactly what he meant, he says this instead: I wouldnt describe it, but thats what the American people are saying. This from the guy who fancies himself the heavyweight championship standup guy of the world.
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So he will stay in this race until the middle of June, sticking to his story that hes not hurting Clinton or hurting her chances against Trump by doing that, which happens to be thinking made out of moonbeams. Is he kidding? It has already reached the point where Trump quoting Bernie on Hillary Clinton or talking about how Bernie says she lacks judgment is just one more part of the campaign that should be a drinking game.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/lupica-bernie-refuses-lacks-votes-win-article-1.2646026
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Very cogent analysis by Lupica of the Bern's crazed campaign.
Jack Bone
(2,023 posts)this "so called" cogent analyzer doesn't even know when the convention is...
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)Godhumor
(6,437 posts)That would be when "the last vote is counted" and Bernie will concede and release delegates.
So in until the middle of June is very accurate.
Jack Bone
(2,023 posts)He's going to the convention as a candidate...he's not releasing anything until the 1st ballot.
bank on it.
lupika's a joke
Perogie
(687 posts)Can all of you shut up and let Bernie have the same as when Hilliary ran in 2008? After June 7 then you all can bitch about Bernie staying in too long.
Hilliary thought that being down 200 delegates was reason enough to stay in the race.
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)Did you not grasp the main point of the piece?
It's the WAY he's "staying in", doing Trump's heavy lifting for him.
His campaign has degenerated into a sad delusional, destructive rant.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)That is a common phrase used to describe classic Hobbsian choices between bad and worse.
To a very, very large segment of the population, that is what this election has come down to-- two public figures with high unfavorablity long before most people had ever heard of Bernie Sanders.
Trump is the worse, as he has serious psychological issues, and has chosen to channel the worst aspects of conservatism in his sales pitch.
Clinton is someone who many people don't trust, and don't like -- or don't like as a presiudential candidate. For many of a progressive/liberal orientation, she also is a product of what they see as a long term sell out of the Democratic Party to Corporate Interests, Wall St. and the Elites. And many believe the Democrats should be turning the page from Clintonism and the politics of the 90's.
Saying that is not being an egomaniac, or unrealistic or anything else. It's the facts as many, many people perceive them -- including many liberals/progressives and Democratic loyalists.
Don't shoot Bernie for being a messenger for that fact. Instead of shooting the messenger you should deal with the message..
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)apnu
(8,756 posts)Be it politics or sport or anything else. Always conduct yourself as if you can win, always compete to the very last second.
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)apnu
(8,756 posts)Bernie is doing what he's supposed to do when behind in a competition.
The rest of your point is outside and off-topic to what I said.
This time, in 2008, what you said is what was said of Clinton staying in against Obama. Now Clinton is in Obama's position and Bernie is Clinton. Its May, nobody really cares outside of the parties. Trump can say and do whatever he wants, America isn't really paying attention yet.
Besides, Trump's mouth and ego are so large, he doesn't need Bernie's help on anything and doesn't want Bernie's help on anything.
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)Only the last heady days of the Romney campaign were as self-deluded and enbubbled as the Sandersism of Spring 2016.
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)Dawgs
(14,755 posts)It's what many of us know, and it's the reason we rec the 'Trump is beating Hillary' threads. It's not because we want Trump to beat Hillary, it's because we don't want to see the Democratic party pick a loser. It's because we don't want a President Trump.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)He is staying in the race because he continues to disregard the will of the voters who have rejected him.
Dawgs
(14,755 posts)He actually cares about ALL Americans and he knows the Hillary voters also don't want a President Trump. This isn't about Hillary.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)Dawgs
(14,755 posts)Good to know.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)"Good to know."
Dawgs
(14,755 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)In America the person with the votes wins, at least that is how it should be...
Dawgs
(14,755 posts)mcar
(42,307 posts)aikoaiko
(34,169 posts)Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)You keep deflecting with that shit response. If you don't want to have a discussion, then quit posting threads.
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)TheKentuckian
(25,026 posts)If you don't like it then go catch a tee ball game somewhere or remember in 2008 that your goddess of light was still running, talking about hard working white people, and invoking Bobby Kennedy's assassination after declaring she and McShame were ready to be Commander in Chief but Obama wasn't.
Get out of here with your entitled and dishonest meowing.
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)Eric J in MN
(35,619 posts)We want candidates to join the Democratic Party to avoid another Ralph Nader situation.
Mike Lupica responds to Sanders joining the Democratic Party by denouncing Sanders as a "Third Party candidate."
If everyone acts as slimy as Mike Lupica then we're going to get another Ralph Nader in a future election.
bullwinkle428
(20,629 posts)commentator.
CentralMass
(15,265 posts)Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)Maybe she should consider another line of work if she can't do so. I understand that she's done well as a speaker for capitalists.
Orsino
(37,428 posts)Confused by bright lights and loud noises, he panics and wishes for the hard braining to be over.