2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumSeriously, how is Hillary not a DINO?
Other than a woman's right to choose and gun control, she's center right and not too dissimilar from moderate Republicans on issues like foreign policy, free trade, and corporate (de)regulation, fracking, and so on.
It seems Bernie is the only real Democrat running.
revbones
(3,660 posts)She said she was open to compromise on abortion and is attending a fundraiser hosted by an NRA lobbyist.
The Hillary supporters here say he's not an NRA lobbyist - but he was as recent as 4th qtr 2015...
Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)puts her much more to the left than she actually is.
Lone_Wolf
(1,603 posts)She disgusts me.
HassleCat
(6,409 posts)It's kind of sad, but there are many Democrats well to her right on a variety of issues.
PeteSelman
(1,508 posts)Which is basically a moderate Republican from the 1980's as President Obama self described himself.
Broward
(1,976 posts)Lone_Wolf
(1,603 posts)It wouldn't surprise me.
KingFlorez
(12,689 posts)What one thinks of Hillary is irrelevant to the fact that Sanders is not a Democrat, but an independent running in the Democratic primary for logistical reasons.
Lorien
(31,935 posts)Or are faux labels all that appeal to you? How can ANYONE not understand that it was the DLC's #1 job to destroy liberalism in America by destroying the DNC from the inside out and making it into another wing of the GOP? Is it really that hard to grasp? The establishment HATES Left of center politics, because liberals like Bernie won't let them trash the planet and crush workers to line their own pockets. Who fights for workers, the elderly, students and the environment? BERNIE! Who votes to undermine the same for the profit of the 0.01%? HILLARY!
It's ain't rocket science.
KingFlorez
(12,689 posts)I assure that I know that issues well.
Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)He dangles trillions of dollars of new entitlements in front of young crowds knowing that a Republican-controlled House will never even allow them to be debated on the floor in the next presidency. What cute label do you have for a guy that shamelessly panders like that ?
Bread and Circus
(9,454 posts)Couldn't resist. That was a slowball right over the plate.
gollygee
(22,336 posts)Just most of us at DU are pretty far to the left. She's right of us, but she isn't right of Democrats in general.
Lorien
(31,935 posts)on a woman's right to choose and gun control if nudged just a little. She's a Pay to Play Republican, brought to us by the GOP hijackers of the DNC.
amborin
(16,631 posts)Mon Feb 22, 2016, 09:29 PM
bvar22 (38,970 posts)
The difference between Hillary, Sanders, and the Republicans: [View all]
* Sanders has supported gay rights since 40 years ago. Hillary and Republicans have not.
* Sanders wants to end the prohibition of marijuana. Hillary & The Republicans do not.
* Sanders wants to end the death penalty. Hillary and The Republicans do not.
* Sanders wants to raise the minimum wage to $15 an hour. Hillary and the Republicans do not.
* Sanders wants to break up the biggest banks. Hillary and The Republicans do not.
* Sanders voted against the Wall Street bailout. Hillary and the Republicans (and too many "Democrats) did not.
* Sanders introduced legislation to overturn Citizens United. Hillary and The Republicans did not.
* Sanders refuses to accept money from super PACs. Hillary and the Republicans do not.
* Sanders supports a single-payer healthcare system. Hillary and The Republicans do not.
* Sanders refrains from waging personal attacks for political gains. Hillary and The Republicans do not.
* Sanders considers climate change our nation's biggest threat. Hillary and The Republicans do not.
* Sanders opposed the Keystone XL Pipeline since day one. Hillary and the Republicans do not.
* Sanders voted against the Patriot Act. Hillary and the Republicans did not.
* Sanders voted against the war in Iraq. Hillary and The Republicans did not.
* Sanders wants to Raise (or eliminate) the CAP on FICA deductions. Hillary and the Republicans do not.
* Sanders opposes unrestricted "Free Trade". Hillary and the Republican do not.
*Sanders wants to protect Social Security by Raising-the-Cap. Hillary and the Republicans do not because the top 1% will have to pay their fair share.
*Sanders wants to diffuse the Middle East by NOT sending more weapons, Hillary and the Republicans do not.
*Sanders marched with the Civil Rights Movement 40 years ago. Hillary and the Republicans did not.
(These are just a few of the differences. Please add more if you wish)
Hillary sure seems to agree with Republicans a lot.
I don't,
that is why I am a Democrat, and voting for a Democrat....Bernie!
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If you Work for a Living, do NOT trust ANY politician who espouses a belief in Free Trade, Free Markets, or an Invisible Hand. NONE of those exist, and that politician is NOT your friend.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1310576
mythology
(9,527 posts)I ask you to find even one single Republican who voted the same as Sanders 93% of the time. Go ahead. This should be easy given your proclamation.
While you're at it, find all of the Republicans who were ranked higher than the 11th most liberal Senator while Clinton was in the Senate. Again, this should be easy if Clinton is such a Republican.
I'll be waiting with baited breath for you to prove your obviously nonsensical claims.
And to claim that Sanders is the only Democrat running, well that makes him quite the hypocrite (in his own words) given the things he's said about the party.
Just because you really really really want to believe something, that doesn't actually make it true any more than people who claim global warming isn't true because it was cold one day.
edbermac
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