Thu Feb 25, 2016, 08:50 PM

I'm 51 Years Old

In second grade (1972), I was literally only the kid who voted for George McGovern over Richard Nixon in our suburban class election. In the first election I was able to vote (1984), I was one of the relatively few college kids my age that supported Walter Mondale and 4 years later, I worked for Sen. Paul Simon's 1988 President campaign. I have volunteered for numerous other Democratic Presidential, Gubernatorial, Senatorial, and House races, and served as my union VP for 3 years.

PLEASE UNDERSTAND: Bernie Sanders is the first authentically liberal in my life time to be a contender and with the ass clown Donald Trump as the potential Republican nominee, I believe he could actually win the presidency in November. Perhaps a President Sanders could at least TRY to put this country back on a Progressive path after it was killed off by some of President Carter's policies (deregulation) and then the Reagan Revolution.

What Hillary supporters fail to understand is that when you mock and belittle Bernie Sanders and his supporters with jibes of "free stuff" and "fairy tales" you're not just mocking a Progressive from Vermont; you're mocking the proud legacy of the New Deal, which saved this country at a radical time in the world where things could have gone horribly wrong even here at home.

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110 replies	Author	Time	Post
I'm 51 Years Old (Original post)	Chasstev365	Feb 2016	OP
Unfortunately.....	daleanime	Feb 2016	#1
It is sad to see defenses of Hillary that are condemnations of great Democratic principles.	libtodeath	Feb 2016	#2
I hate to be mean....	artyteacher	Feb 2016	#3
And a Repub will be president. n/t	Contrary1	Feb 2016	#8
Not likely. eom	artyteacher	Feb 2016	#10
I don't agree...	Contrary1	Feb 2016	#16
True	marions ghost	Feb 2016	#85
All those young people at Bernie's rally?	Fawke Em	Feb 2016	#49
They'll vote for whoever Bernie tells them to vote for--or they'll (as they've been doing)	MADem	Feb 2016	#65
And that's all they'll do	eridani	Feb 2016	#67
That's fine. He'll have time to do a few DNC fundraisers at that point in time. nt	MADem	Feb 2016	#73
Sanders supporters are not good at taking orders.	jeff47	Feb 2016	#69
HUH? Sanders hasn't told you to support Clinton. Not sure what your post even means.	MADem	Feb 2016	#72
Every single other Democrat ordered us to support Clinton.	jeff47	Feb 2016	#74
What an odd thing to say.	MADem	Feb 2016	#75
The herd you speak of got us into our current disastrous situation.	jeff47	Feb 2016	#94
No one is "ordering" you to do any such thing, though, so your question is	MADem	Feb 2016	#96
What, exactly, do you think condemning people to hell is? A gentle suggestion?	jeff47	Feb 2016	#97
Even if that were the case (and I very much doubt it is) my name is not Mesmer.	MADem	Feb 2016	#103
That is wishful thinking	angrychair	Feb 2016	#99
Telling the poor that you're going to get it from the rich, though, that's not gonna happen.	MADem	Feb 2016	#102
Hillary had no problem voting with the Republicans to commit TRILLIONS to the Iraq war	Fumesucker	Feb 2016	#104
Yes, Sanders voted--long after Clinton left the Senate--to authorize those trillions. nt	MADem	Feb 2016	#105
Big picture	angrychair	Feb 2016	#106
Obama has endured years of gridlock.	MADem	Feb 2016	#108
As my 22-year-old daughter's boyfriend put it the other night--	LibDemAlways	Feb 2016	#91
You are correct, of course. nt	artislife	Feb 2016	#33
Hillary does not have anything in common with Bernie.	Cassiopeia	Feb 2016	#27
But don't you see- that is the point?	notadmblnd	Feb 2016	#29
Look, the Dems have tried running these middle of the road	RoccoR5955	Feb 2016	#43
You are projecting onto Hillary the characteristics you wish she had.	Maedhros	Feb 2016	#44
Hillary doesn't seem to have any principles..	MellowDem	Feb 2016	#54
You cannot negate the point made in the OP	AwakeAtLast	Feb 2016	#58
Your cynicism serves no worthwhile purpose...	gregcrawford	Feb 2016	#60
It's not cynicism.	artyteacher	Feb 2016	#81
A TOTAL PILE... Hillary HAs Been "Hired" By Goldman et al To Do... ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!	CorporatistNation	Feb 2016	#64
Really?	KPN	Feb 2016	#76
check that word "principles" -- it's not as flexible as some think.	nashville_brook	Feb 2016	#83
meaningless babble	pdsimdars	Feb 2016	#100
Proud Legacy of the New Deal?	leftofcool	Feb 2016	#4
Relatively speaking; it was good.	Chasstev365	Feb 2016	#15
That's because all the black folks back then were super-predators.	Loudestlib	Feb 2016	#19
amazing	ellennelle	Feb 2016	#30
There is no time in our history including now	artislife	Feb 2016	#34
No, it wasn't all wine and roses for POC. In fact conditions were no where near it.	notadmblnd	Feb 2016	#35
Yeah, especially when the last act of the New Deal	RoccoR5955	Feb 2016	#46
It was a different time	passiveporcupine	Feb 2016	#53
Ah yes, the days of a segregated military as well as daily life, and "redlining!"	MADem	Feb 2016	#56
The New Deal did not create these conditions. In fact, the existence of	Dark n Stormy Knight	Feb 2016	#95
Isn't is amazing...	Rod Beauvex	Feb 2016	#5
And ridiculously expensive corporate giveaways and needless wars are always funded exhorbitantly.	Arugula Latte	Feb 2016	#31
Yep. Proof that they are full of shit when they whine that we can't afford programs that give help	GoneFishin	Feb 2016	#61
Bernie Sanders is the most influential candidate in this campaign and progressive.	appalachiablue	Feb 2016	#50
My dad attended Penn State from 1939-43, tuition free. I attended	LibDemAlways	Feb 2016	#92
I remember tuition at a state university I attended in the mid-sxties as $125 a semester and	maddiemom	Feb 2016	#109
I'm 58 years old ...	Martin Eden	Feb 2016	#6
I was the only McGovern supporter in my 4th grade class.	lumberjack_jeff	Feb 2016	#7
Hey, you youngsters:	maddiemom	Feb 2016	#110
I'm fifty	UglyGreed	Feb 2016	#9
"I never thought that Members Only jacket would go out of style." -- Hank Hill	tk2kewl	Feb 2016	#11
My mother bought me a leather one	UglyGreed	Feb 2016	#18
That's vintage. $$$$$$$	azmom	Feb 2016	#21
No I worn it out	UglyGreed	Feb 2016	#25
.	tk2kewl	Feb 2016	#78
None of Those Liberals Won	Stallion	Feb 2016	#12
Thing is	RobertEarl	Feb 2016	#20
FDR won.	Nyan	Feb 2016	#24
And the first time, he was a rich seemingly Establishment type.	Hoyt	Feb 2016	#37
...that was running after the worst economic collapse in history of the Country	Stallion	Feb 2016	#48
But he was more of the same apparently. Rise to the occassion, although Social Security excluded	Hoyt	Feb 2016	#57
Wow! And you shit on FDR.	Le Taz Hot	Feb 2016	#66
No, I described how he evolved. Look it up if you don't believe me. He was not	Hoyt	Feb 2016	#68
Translattion: Fear, fear, fear.	artislife	Feb 2016	#36
I argued for McGovern in the 3rd grade class debate!	femmedem	Feb 2016	#13
Two years older than you	rufus dog	Feb 2016	#14
Thank you.	H2O Man	Feb 2016	#17
74 years old and totally agree with you. I was one of four	jwirr	Feb 2016	#22
K&R	valerief	Feb 2016	#23
I'm not that old, but my uncle has given me a complete education on politics.	OhZone	Feb 2016	#26
I see a pattern here everyone you supported lost the election n/t	doc03	Feb 2016	#28
Good comments	Lithos	Feb 2016	#32
There are so many of us who have waited so long...	tokenlib	Feb 2016	#38
waited so long	SoLeftIAmRight	Feb 2016	#63
Progressives have to get away from fighting for individual presidential candidates and fight for	Yavin4	Feb 2016	#39
What makes you think we haven't?	jeff47	Feb 2016	#71
I think my folks were	Iwillnevergiveup	Feb 2016	#40
HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!!	WillyT	Feb 2016	#41
K&R	kgnu_fan	Feb 2016	#42
Yesss	Armstead	Feb 2016	#45
Same here	deutsey	Feb 2016	#47
Yes, you're right	zentrum	Feb 2016	#51
Yes. This is true.	PatrickforO	Feb 2016	#52
Very well stated. I'm with you 100%. (N/T)	Old Crow	Feb 2016	#55
"Authenticaly liberal"	democrank	Feb 2016	#59
k&r	smiley	Feb 2016	#62
That was so well done!	WhaTHellsgoingonhere	Feb 2016	#70
That made me laugh	Laughing Mirror	Feb 2016	#82
Ha! Yeah, all white Northern California. And we're all appalled by racism	WhaTHellsgoingonhere	Feb 2016	#86
Piedmont? XD	MisterP	Feb 2016	#88
Well then I'll call you brother too	Laughing Mirror	Feb 2016	#90
82 blacks in 2010!!!!	WhaTHellsgoingonhere	Feb 2016	#93
Well said!	KPN	Feb 2016	#77
Corporate dems are a right-wing 5th column	Mufaddal	Feb 2016	#79
K&R.....excellent post	hwmnbn	Feb 2016	#80
K&R	myrna minx	Feb 2016	#84
K&R	Mbrow	Feb 2016	#87
kick	Attorney in Texas	Feb 2016	#89
Those who don't understand this basic principle are privileged enough to not	silvershadow	Feb 2016	#98
K&R! I'm pleased to see this post has hundreds of recommendations! Make it 300!	Enthusiast	Feb 2016	#101
K & R!	Dont call me Shirley	Feb 2016	#107

Response to Chasstev365 (Original post)

Thu Feb 25, 2016, 08:54 PM

daleanime (17,796 posts)

1. Unfortunately.....

I do not believe they care. Keep your head up and stay in the game, as a 55 year old I'm hoping to make it to 40 years a democrat.

I'm 51 Years Old

1. Unfortunately.....

2. It is sad to see defenses of Hillary that are condemnations of great Democratic principles.

3. I hate to be mean....

8. And a Repub will be president. n/t

10. Not likely. eom

16. I don't agree...

85. True

49. All those young people at Bernie's rally?

65. They'll vote for whoever Bernie tells them to vote for--or they'll (as they've been doing)

67. And that's all they'll do

73. That's fine. He'll have time to do a few DNC fundraisers at that point in time. nt

69. Sanders supporters are not good at taking orders.

72. HUH? Sanders hasn't told you to support Clinton. Not sure what your post even means.

74. Every single other Democrat ordered us to support Clinton.

75. What an odd thing to say.

94. The herd you speak of got us into our current disastrous situation.

96. No one is "ordering" you to do any such thing, though, so your question is

97. What, exactly, do you think condemning people to hell is? A gentle suggestion?

103. Even if that were the case (and I very much doubt it is) my name is not Mesmer.

99. That is wishful thinking

102. Telling the poor that you're going to get it from the rich, though, that's not gonna happen.

104. Hillary had no problem voting with the Republicans to commit TRILLIONS to the Iraq war

105. Yes, Sanders voted--long after Clinton left the Senate--to authorize those trillions. nt

106. Big picture

108. Obama has endured years of gridlock.

91. As my 22-year-old daughter's boyfriend put it the other night--

33. You are correct, of course. nt

27. Hillary does not have anything in common with Bernie.

29. But don't you see- that is the point?

43. Look, the Dems have tried running these middle of the road

44. You are projecting onto Hillary the characteristics you wish she had.

54. Hillary doesn't seem to have any principles..

58. You cannot negate the point made in the OP

60. Your cynicism serves no worthwhile purpose...

81. It's not cynicism.

64. A TOTAL PILE... Hillary HAs Been "Hired" By Goldman et al To Do... ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!

76. Really?

83. check that word "principles" -- it's not as flexible as some think.

100. meaningless babble

4. Proud Legacy of the New Deal?

15. Relatively speaking; it was good.

19. That's because all the black folks back then were super-predators.

30. amazing

34. There is no time in our history including now

35. No, it wasn't all wine and roses for POC. In fact conditions were no where near it.

46. Yeah, especially when the last act of the New Deal

53. It was a different time

56. Ah yes, the days of a segregated military as well as daily life, and "redlining!"

95. The New Deal did not create these conditions. In fact, the existence of

5. Isn't is amazing...

31. And ridiculously expensive corporate giveaways and needless wars are always funded exhorbitantly.

61. Yep. Proof that they are full of shit when they whine that we can't afford programs that give help

50. Bernie Sanders is the most influential candidate in this campaign and progressive.

92. My dad attended Penn State from 1939-43, tuition free. I attended

109. I remember tuition at a state university I attended in the mid-sxties as $125 a semester and

6. I'm 58 years old ...

7. I was the only McGovern supporter in my 4th grade class.

110. Hey, you youngsters:

9. I'm fifty

11. "I never thought that Members Only jacket would go out of style." -- Hank Hill

18. My mother bought me a leather one

21. That's vintage. $$$$$$$

25. No I worn it out

78. .

12. None of Those Liberals Won

20. Thing is

24. FDR won.

37. And the first time, he was a rich seemingly Establishment type.

48. ...that was running after the worst economic collapse in history of the Country

57. But he was more of the same apparently. Rise to the occassion, although Social Security excluded

66. Wow! And you shit on FDR.

68. No, I described how he evolved. Look it up if you don't believe me. He was not

36. Translattion: Fear, fear, fear.

13. I argued for McGovern in the 3rd grade class debate!

14. Two years older than you

17. Thank you.

22. 74 years old and totally agree with you. I was one of four

23. K&R

26. I'm not that old, but my uncle has given me a complete education on politics.