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Sat Feb 20, 2016, 10:59 AM

 

Sanders offers a new narrative. No more confining discussions to the right wing frames.

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About ten years ago a book was published that detailed the 40 right wing think tanks funded by a billion dollars each year. The goal of these organizations is to limit the range of topics that get broadcast to the world and frame how these topics are to be understood.

Many of the talking heads have been trained in these places and they have been very effective in directing the way Americans think about issues. Climate change is a very good example. Many here can see through the confusion spread about this issue but still are not able to do the same with so many other issues.

No we can't is true for those living in the right wing world. There are many wise people that quietly offer rational solutions to many of the problems that we face. It is time to listen to these voices. It is time to elevate a different and rational approach to our problems.

Sanders offers us a chance to take a fresh look at the world around us. Sanders offers us a chance to explore new possibilities in the way we deal with our challenges.

Sanders offers us a chance to Change the Narrative.

Take the chance - accept the challenge - join the movement that can Change the Narrative.

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Reply Sanders offers a new narrative. No more confining discussions to the right wing frames. (Original post)
SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 OP
Sunlei Feb 2016 #1
SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #2
rhett o rick Feb 2016 #3
SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #5
Dustlawyer Feb 2016 #15
SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #18
rhett o rick Feb 2016 #19
Enthusiast Feb 2016 #66
Live and Learn Feb 2016 #25
CorporatistNation Feb 2016 #72
workinclasszero Feb 2016 #76
rhett o rick Feb 2016 #81
Rosa Luxemburg Feb 2016 #28
GreatGazoo Feb 2016 #33
Rosa Luxemburg Feb 2016 #36
azurnoir Feb 2016 #42
dana_b Feb 2016 #47
Manifestor_of_Light Feb 2016 #73
SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #51
Odin2005 Feb 2016 #54
redruddyred Feb 2016 #63
rhett o rick Feb 2016 #64
jtuck004 Feb 2016 #79
FlatBaroque Feb 2016 #4
Jenny_92808 Feb 2016 #6
farleftlib Feb 2016 #7
cantbeserious Feb 2016 #8
SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #9
mountain grammy Feb 2016 #10
SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #13
socialist_n_TN Feb 2016 #11
SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #14
socialist_n_TN Feb 2016 #16
SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #17
jwirr Feb 2016 #21
KingCharlemagne Feb 2016 #24
Odin2005 Feb 2016 #55
davidpdx Feb 2016 #77
2banon Feb 2016 #12
scottie55 Feb 2016 #20
raindaddy Feb 2016 #22
SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #23
Live and Learn Feb 2016 #26
TIME TO PANIC Feb 2016 #27
SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #30
frylock Feb 2016 #32
SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #35
TIME TO PANIC Feb 2016 #37
Enthusiast Feb 2016 #68
TIME TO PANIC Feb 2016 #69
Enthusiast Feb 2016 #70
TIME TO PANIC Feb 2016 #71
Duval Feb 2016 #39
appalachiablue Feb 2016 #59
whatchamacallit Feb 2016 #29
SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #34
frylock Feb 2016 #31
MasonDreams Feb 2016 #38
avaistheone1 Feb 2016 #49
H2O Man Feb 2016 #40
Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #41
Populist_Prole Feb 2016 #43
dana_b Feb 2016 #44
SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #45
MasonDreams Feb 2016 #46
SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #48
Jenny_92808 Feb 2016 #56
MasonDreams Feb 2016 #60
kristopher Feb 2016 #50
SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #52
Odin2005 Feb 2016 #53
Milliesmom Feb 2016 #57
JDPriestly Feb 2016 #58
passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #61
SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #62
Enthusiast Feb 2016 #65
SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #67
myrna minx Feb 2016 #74
Betty Karlson Feb 2016 #75
Fast Walker 52 Feb 2016 #78
colsohlibgal Feb 2016 #80
rhett o rick Feb 2016 #82

Response to SoLeftIAmRight (Original post)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 11:04 AM

1. Change the Narrative- #1 where is the Federal minimum wage raise?

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Response to Sunlei (Reply #1)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 11:05 AM

2. judged by the way its animals are treated

 

love this quote - many thanks

we will not be judged well

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Response to SoLeftIAmRight (Original post)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 11:10 AM

3. Seems to me that Clinton supporters don't want change, or are terrified by the thought of

 

change. They want to continue the current culture of Big Money (Citizens United) that controls our government. They seem to have put Democratic Principles on hold with the sad thought process that we must do anything to win and then we can go back to our principles.

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Response to rhett o rick (Reply #3)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 11:18 AM

5. The frightening part is that they do not embrace the landslide of enthusiasm.

 

A good leader would be able use this energy. Hillary can not even work with her own party - how in the hell will she be able to work with the other party?

The answer to that quest might be the most frighting thing of all.

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Response to rhett o rick (Reply #3)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 12:03 PM

15. The choice is stark, keep living under corporate rule under Hillary and watch things get worse, or

go with Bernie and fight TPTB to regain our Representative Democracy!

How can we be surprised, or worse, in denial, that our politicians are bought off when we allow legalized bribery to put them in power in the first place? TPTB usually control who the candidates are that we vote on. They are above the law and do not even get investigated. The Pentagon cannot even be audited despite their admission that they "lost trillions of dollars," all the while asking for even more money!

Hillary and Bill became rich giving speeches to their Wall Street banking friends and received a yuuuuge war chest of hundreds of millions of dollars, yet we are supposed to believe that she is the one to reform them.

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Response to Dustlawyer (Reply #15)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 12:10 PM

18. supposed to believe that she is the one

 

now that is magic and unicorns

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Response to Dustlawyer (Reply #15)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 12:17 PM

19. "The choice is stark, keep living under corporate rule under Hillary and watch things get worse, or

 

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"The choice is stark, keep living under corporate rule under Hillary and watch things get worse, or go with Bernie and fight TPTB to regain our Representative Democracy!"

That says it very well. If you don't mind I plan on using that quote.

I wanted to add another quote from another poster:

"Take the chance - accept the challenge - join the movement that can Change the Narrative. "

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Response to rhett o rick (Reply #19)

Sun Feb 21, 2016, 12:05 AM

66. It's the perfect quote!

We are desperate for some representative democracy.

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Response to Dustlawyer (Reply #15)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 12:49 PM

25. +10,000 nt

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Response to Dustlawyer (Reply #15)

Sun Feb 21, 2016, 01:29 AM

72. Then Using Wall Street Money to Pay Off Hacks Like Huerta To RIG The System!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511292568#post5

Above is Delores Huerta Foundation Receiving $100k from Clinton Foundation in 2010

See pdf page 34... There it is! http://990s.foundationcenter.org/990pf_pdf_archive/300/300048438/300048438_201012_990PF.pdf

Hillbots could care less how CORRUPT are the Clintons... pitiful

How much did those Union bosses get paid under the table to rig the casino shit today?

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Response to CorporatistNation (Reply #72)

Sun Feb 21, 2016, 07:32 AM

76. What is it about workers banding together to protect

 

Themselves from ruthless capitalism that Bernie fans hate?

How much did those Union bosses get paid under the table to rig the casino shit today?


I can see now why the Koch bros were praising Bernie the other day. They hate unions too.

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Response to workinclasszero (Reply #76)

Sun Feb 21, 2016, 10:04 AM

81. The movement is just gaining momentum. It's tough for the People to fight Citizens United, the

 

Clinton-Corp-Media, and the domination of Big Money. Some seem to be comfortable with the status quo and afraid to make the rich mad. They know in their hearts that Clinton/Goldman-Sachs don't care about the 50,000,000 living in poverty but only care about amassing more money and power.

Another poster here said it best:

"The choice is stark, keep living under corporate rule under Hillary and watch things get worse, or go with Bernie and fight TPTB to regain our Representative Democracy!"

Don't support the corrupt culture that has devastated the middle and working classes.

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Response to rhett o rick (Reply #3)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 12:53 PM

28. No they are comfortable with what they've got

mainly baby boomers

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Response to Rosa Luxemburg (Reply #28)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 01:00 PM

33. and the comfortable fear change

but the truth is change is coming anyway.

As Craig Keilberger said "Even the decision to do nothing changes the future."

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Response to GreatGazoo (Reply #33)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 01:05 PM

36. that's very true

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Response to Rosa Luxemburg (Reply #28)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 01:17 PM

42. I'm sorry but you're wrong

the fiirst thing you have to understand is that there are 2 very distinct groups of boomers -the early ones which would encompass the Clintons and the later ones those of us in our 50's to very early 60's and we were the first to effed by the earlier ones - those of us who graduated high school as the oil embargo and Watergate raged saw our futures swept away wholesale and saw our elder siblings cynically vote the likes of Ronald Reagan into office seems they figured out that sharing the powwer and wealth may just mean sharing their power and wealth -can't have that now-can we

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Response to azurnoir (Reply #42)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 01:42 PM

47. this is very recognizable to me

I'm the baby and I'm part of Gen X but my sister and brother are those later boomers who graduated when Nixon resigned, etc. They are not like the older boomers. They are more like me, tbh. They are a bit jaded, realistic yet they still want things to change. They really like Bernie's message and even my Republican sister is wising up - she's voting for him! Yay!! I'm still convincing my brother that he can win but I think if Bernie wins a few more primaries/caucuses, he will believe. They are sick of the power and wealth grab in this country. They didn't have things handed to them. When Reagan was governor here in California he made sure that free college went away, right before it would have helped my siblings. Then we had that disastrous prop 13 by Jarvis/Gann (filthy Repubs!) that killed our schools and other public works projects. Anyway, you see where I'm going. They differ then the older boomers. I find them more open minded in their social views and realistic and yes, pragmatic, in their financial and political views.

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Response to dana_b (Reply #47)

Sun Feb 21, 2016, 01:38 AM

73. Yes.

I'm a younger boomer. My husband is an older boomer. We are 9 years apart in age. But I knew what was going on in the 60s as a kid because I watched the TV news with my parents and they talked about politics and we went to a lot of Democratic functions just for fun and something to do.

We are both for Bernie.

Since I started working summers in the 1970s, we both feel like we have been spinning our wheels and going nowhere with our jobs for 35 years --since Reagan was elected President. TPTB started cracking down on all those dirty hippie protesters against the Vietnam War. And cracking down economically.

I was in the later group of 70s so-called hippies, but I always took baths and never dropped out of college or became a goof-off.

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Response to azurnoir (Reply #42)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 01:52 PM

51. cynically vote the likes of Ronald Reagan

 

this event solidified my political position

Good people turned there backs on Carter's conservative message of living a sustainable life.
He warned of the wars for oil and foretold the current crisis.

Reagun removed the solar panels from the White House and I saw stupidity and doom.

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Response to rhett o rick (Reply #3)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 03:15 PM

54. Many Clinton supporters are socially liberal middle and upper-middle class people...

...in the big cities and suburbs who are comfortable with what they have economically and are more concerned with the social and cultural backwardness of the GOP. Many of these people look down upon working class people, especially poor white working class people and are horrified by Bernie appealing to these people because working class whites have been demonized as the source of all prejudice and bigotry (never mind the fact that many of these better-off people are in reality "benevolent racists".

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Response to Odin2005 (Reply #54)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 11:01 PM

63. +1

 

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Response to Odin2005 (Reply #54)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 11:59 PM

64. Yes I agree, and many Clinton supporters are just awed by the power of the rich.

 

Willing to give up their freedoms and liberties to worship at the alter of money, power and greed.

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Response to rhett o rick (Reply #3)

Sun Feb 21, 2016, 09:46 AM

79. To expect anything different would be an error. It would be naive to think they would be

 

any other way.

Funny people, these supporters of President Sanders. Complain about the blinders of Mrs. Clinton's supporters, yet thought they could join an existing org and have less opponents.

Hearts don't change.

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Response to SoLeftIAmRight (Original post)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 11:13 AM

4. Recommended /

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Response to SoLeftIAmRight (Original post)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 11:26 AM

6. I am with you

 

Sanders gets it and believes it and is authentic and I am there with him. Sanders is correct in his analysis.

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Response to SoLeftIAmRight (Original post)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 11:30 AM

7. ^^THIS^^

 

The dems have allowed this for decades. It's so important that we reframe the debate. Bernie is 1 billion per cent correct to bring this up.
K & R

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Response to SoLeftIAmRight (Original post)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 11:48 AM

8. When We Stand Together - No Citizen Need Settle For The Lesser Of Two Corporate Evils - Go Bernie Go

eom

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Response to cantbeserious (Reply #8)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 11:49 AM

9. No Citizen Need Settle

 

That is true now.

Please America, do not let this chance slip away.

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Response to SoLeftIAmRight (Original post)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 11:51 AM

10. In the sixties, the people were on a roll. Civil Rights, Voting Rights, Medicare!

Big business got nervous and put on the brakes in the 70's (the Powell Memo, etc.,) preparing the people for the great turn around in the 1980 election. Any and all progress since then has been two steps forward, one and a half back.
It's been over 40 fucking years! It's the people's turn again!

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Response to mountain grammy (Reply #10)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 11:58 AM

13. one example

 

The Economist magazine during the late 70's and early 80's published many articles about "Steady-state Economics". They express a view that we should manage our limited resources with a view of the future. There was intellectual discussions on systems that would halt mindless growth.

It was a different world. Far too many do not understand the profound changes that have been forced on the thinking of the American people.

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Response to SoLeftIAmRight (Original post)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 11:55 AM

11. That's one of the MOST progressive things about the Sanders campaign.........

Changing that narrative. It even opens things up for even more radical and revolutionary ideas about organizing society. I honestly thought that was the main motive for Bernie running in the first place. It's been nice seeing his support rise for the last year and seeing how the discussion has already widened out into the general consciousness though.

One thing that I'm prepared for though is for the attempt at sweeping these mildly social democratic ideas under the rug just as soon as HRC clinches the nomination.

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Response to socialist_n_TN (Reply #11)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 12:02 PM

14. If that sad day does come...

 

The door has been opened. Many have come in from the dark. The push will continue if We the People refuse to settle.

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Response to SoLeftIAmRight (Reply #14)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 12:06 PM

16. Yeppers that's the key. Does the .......

movement continue after Bernie or does it ALLOW itself to be swept back under the rug. Because it's going to take militant action to bring about even mild social democratic changes. I don't want to stop at social democracy, I want the means of production in democratic workers hands.

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Response to socialist_n_TN (Reply #16)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 12:08 PM

17. Richard Wolf

 

one of those voices that should be heard

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Response to socialist_n_TN (Reply #11)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 12:38 PM

21. Yes, if we supporters do not listen to him and continue the

revolution regardless of the outcome of the race then it will have a tough time changing anything.

However, things are already starting to change and that is a good sign. I think we may have fear on our side for a change.

The very idea that Bernie is doing so well is putting fear into the hearts of the 1% and their corporations. That is all it took for FDR to make the progress that he did after the Great Depression. If we win just maybe we can accomplish much of what we want. Just maybe the 1% and the corporations will see the hand writing on the wall.

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Response to socialist_n_TN (Reply #11)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 12:46 PM

24. My Socialist and Communist comrades constantly disparage Sanders' faux

 

socialism and argue that his principal function will be to shepherd progressives to support the unabashed capitalist Hillary. No matter that I point out that Sanders could get the nomination. In their minds, Hillary's endorsement of Sanders would only further demonstrate that Sanders is no friend of the proletariat!

Still scratching my head about how to counter that line. The good news, I suppose, is that true leftist sectarianism is alive and well.

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Response to KingCharlemagne (Reply #24)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 03:32 PM

55. The Leninists completely misunderstand what "social revolution" in the Marxist sense is.

If you look at the shift from an feudal to a capitalist society it took centuries of mostly local struggles, it wasn't just the French Revolution (which might not even have happened if Louis XVI has been a more competent leader) and the Napoleonic Wars. I think too many people on the Left have developed an almost messianic view of "The Revolution" derived from secularized Judeo-Christian apocalyptic sentiment and also with the popular romantic left-wing narrative of the French Revolution.

Social Revolution is a long, messy process, not some singular event.

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Response to socialist_n_TN (Reply #11)

Sun Feb 21, 2016, 07:34 AM

77. I tend to agree

If Sanders loses she won't adopt many of his ideas. She'll run on her own platform and we'll be told we have no choice in the matter. The only good thing she will do is appoint SCOTUS replacements if she gets elected. Campaign finance reform will fall dead and she'll start fundraising for 2020.

I keep hearing from Clinton supporters (both on and off DU) that a greater level of excitement for her will happen once she is nominated. I very much doubt it that is going to happen.

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Response to SoLeftIAmRight (Original post)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 11:57 AM

12. Well Said!

 

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Response to SoLeftIAmRight (Original post)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 12:18 PM

20. Conservatism Is Horrible For Our Nation - How About That Frame

 

To make a list of all the things "conservatives" support would make one sick.

Conservatism is horrible.

Push that frame down their 1% loving throats.

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Response to SoLeftIAmRight (Original post)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 12:40 PM

22. Very well stated!!!

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Response to raindaddy (Reply #22)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 12:45 PM

23. Many Many Thanks

 

It is a rare thread supporting Sanders that is not bashed.

This one must have hit home even there.

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Response to SoLeftIAmRight (Original post)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 12:49 PM

26. +10,000 nt

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Response to SoLeftIAmRight (Original post)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 12:53 PM

27. Our biggest obstacle is the corporate media.

We need to wage an all out war against the corporate media. This includes cutting the chord.

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Response to TIME TO PANIC (Reply #27)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 12:55 PM

30. The speed in which the memes of the day are refuted by the power of the net...

 

brings hope that corporate media will be put in it's place.

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Response to SoLeftIAmRight (Reply #30)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 12:59 PM

32. Look how fast we managed to shut Capehart down.

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Response to frylock (Reply #32)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 01:02 PM

35. A thing of beauty

 

...

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Response to SoLeftIAmRight (Reply #30)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 01:07 PM

37. That's one of the things that worries me about the TPP.

We can't lose net neutrality. The net is Bernie's lifeline, and it's the one thing preventing complete fascism, in my opinion.

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Response to TIME TO PANIC (Reply #37)

Sun Feb 21, 2016, 12:18 AM

68. I've often thought about that.

What results would we expect if they cut off a free internet? I think there would be a spontaneous uprising. Democracy would be over because the entire remaining non internet media is nothing but propaganda.

I also see a clear effort by the opposition to influence popular culture. They understand that is their weakness.

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Response to Enthusiast (Reply #68)

Sun Feb 21, 2016, 12:37 AM

69. We were really close to losing it back in 2014.

Thom wheeler FCC chairman (former lobbyist) thankfully caved due to public pressure. I'm afraid it's going to be an ongoing battle until we get rid of the revolving door.

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Response to TIME TO PANIC (Reply #69)

Sun Feb 21, 2016, 12:54 AM

70. More people need to understand about Bernie.

Understanding about Bernie, we win. Then we can work against the revolving door.

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Response to Enthusiast (Reply #70)

Sun Feb 21, 2016, 12:58 AM

71. Absolutely. n/t

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Response to TIME TO PANIC (Reply #27)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 01:08 PM

39. +1,00000000000000000!

 

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Response to TIME TO PANIC (Reply #27)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 07:45 PM

59. Yes the M$M, DNC and more.

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Response to SoLeftIAmRight (Original post)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 12:55 PM

29. Anyone outside that frame is a unicorn rancher

We need a president that can color inside the lines! Or something.

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Response to whatchamacallit (Reply #29)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 01:01 PM

34. a unicorn rancher with a magic staff

 

The fight against Sanders has been so silly. The well paid and well trained talking heads had better come up with better stuff than "a unicorn rancher with a magic staff".

Change is pressing hard against their firewalls.

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Response to SoLeftIAmRight (Original post)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 12:58 PM

31. But but but the tea partiers won't let us.

Karl Rove!!!

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Response to SoLeftIAmRight (Original post)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 01:08 PM

38. Thoughtcrime in an endless war world.

Be afraid, be very afraid. All for hillary because she's not even close to as bad as trump.
Don't forget to fear, constantly. Fear what we tell you to fear. Freeze up with fear of foriegn terror!

Don't worry about the hot winter in the Arctic.

Please don't think about "foreign dangerous ideas" like
The New Deal and The Great Society. That "four eyes"
President on Mt. Rushmore, whatever you do don't don't
Remember the TRUSTBUSTER

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Response to MasonDreams (Reply #38)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 01:47 PM

49. ...and they not even going at full steam yet. Wait until we get closer to the election.

 

MORE fear!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Response to SoLeftIAmRight (Original post)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 01:09 PM

40. Very important!

Recommended

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Response to SoLeftIAmRight (Original post)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 01:11 PM

41. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, SoLeftIAmRight.

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Response to SoLeftIAmRight (Original post)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 01:24 PM

43. Kick and recommend, and great replies as well

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Response to SoLeftIAmRight (Original post)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 01:26 PM

44. Beautiful!!

And you're so right about these think tanks. How frustrating it must be to them that they spend their billions of dollars and along comes this guy who just starts laying it all out there and telling it like it is - and people are responding VERY positively to it?! He is saying that we can do these things IF we all work at it and IF we get the money out and IF we get the right people into office. It's such a simple message but it's honest.

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Response to dana_b (Reply #44)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 01:37 PM

45. Many Many Thanks

 

So very many people know that change must come. The many great ideas that are never presented to the American people offer hope and solutions that will give us a better and more sustainable world.

All movements need a voice. Bernie has stepped forward and offered his. It will be our job to make known to all that a better way of living is possible.

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Response to SoLeftIAmRight (Original post)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 01:39 PM

46. You are correct sir. Nail on the Head.

Change the Narrative, Change the world

I feel the earth move, under my feet.
I feel the sky tumbling down tumbling down

I feel this Bern.

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Response to MasonDreams (Reply #46)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 01:43 PM

48. How is life on the Rez?

 

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Response to MasonDreams (Reply #46)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 07:27 PM

56. I love the way

 

you think

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Response to Jenny_92808 (Reply #56)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 07:51 PM

60. I am touched

Butterfly on my shoulder

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Response to SoLeftIAmRight (Original post)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 01:51 PM

50. What government makes people happy? What government is good for business?

Research source cited below:
http://www.oecdbetterlifeindex.org/topics/life-satisfaction/
Life Satisfaction


Background
Measuring feelings can be very subjective, but is nonetheless a useful complement to more objective data when comparing quality of life across countries. Subjective data can provide a personal evaluation of an individual’s health, education, income, personal fulfilment and social conditions. Surveys, in particular, are used to measure life satisfaction and happiness.


Life satisfaction
Life satisfaction measures how people evaluate their life as a whole rather than their current feelings. When asked to rate their general satisfaction with life on a scale from 0 to 10, people across the OECD gave it a 6.6 grade. Life satisfaction is not evenly shared across the OECD however. Some countries – Estonia, Greece, Hungary, Portugal and Turkey – have a relatively low level of overall life satisfaction, with average scores of less than 5.6. At the other end of the scale, scores reach 7.5 in Denmark, Iceland and Switzerland. There is almost no difference in life satisfaction levels between men and women across OECD countries. However, when looking at people’s education level, there is a clear difference: whereas people who have only completed primary education across OECD countries have a life satisfaction level of 5.9, this score reaches 7 for people with tertiary education....

Details by country...



Monday, May 11, 2009
World's Happiest Countries? Social Democracies
by
Craig Brown
A new report released by the Organization for Economic Co-Operation and Development (OECD) shows that happiness levels are highest in northern European countries.

Denmark, Finland and the Netherlands rated at the top of the list, ranking first, second and third, respectively.

The US? As expected, the United States failed to make the top 10 but ranked among the highest for obesity and child poverty. Americans spend less than half the amount of time eating as the French, but have three times the obesity rate. “This tells us something about slow food, I think,” Simon Chappele, editor of the report said in an interview with NPR.

The report also showed the United States has the lowest mean age for women when they first gave birth, at 25.1 years old.
http://www.commondreams.org/further/2009/05/11/worlds-happiest-countries-social-democracies


These Are The Happiest Countries In The World
06/05/2015

Denmark’s residents are the most satisfied with their lives, according to the Better Life Index released Monday. According to the study, published annually by the Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD), the United States failed to crack the top 10 for the fifth consecutive year.

The Better Life Index rates the 34 OECD member nations, as well as Brazil and the Russian Federation, on 22 variables that contribute to overall well-being, including income, education, housing, health, and life satisfaction. 24/7 Wall St. reviewed the 10 countries with the highest life satisfaction score.

A healthy job market is one of the most important factors contributing to higher life evaluations. Employment rates — the percentage of the working-age population that is employed — were higher in each of the 10 countries with the highest life satisfaction score than the average employment rate for the countries reviewed.

Conversely, countries with relatively unhealthy job markets had lower life satisfaction scores. Unemployment rates were above 8.5% in seven of the 10 least happy countries, while they were lower than 7% in all but two of the happiest countries.

Healthy labor markets not only help promote job security, but also they can ...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/05/these-are-the-happiest-co_n_7521674.html


Forbes Best countries for Business
http://www.forbes.com/best-countries-for-business/list/#tabverall

Rank Name GDP Growth GDP per Capita Trade Balance/GDP Population
#1 Denmark 1.1% $44,600 6.3% 5.6 M
#2 New Zealand 3.3% $35,300 -3.2% 4.4 M
#3 Norway 2.2% $67,200 9.4% 5.2 M
#4 Ireland 5.2% $51,300 3.7% 4.9 M
#5 Sweden 2.3% $46,200 6.2% 9.8 M
#6 Finland -0.4% $40,700 -1.8% 5.5 M
#7 Canada 2.4% $45,000 -2.1% 35.1 M
#8 Singapore 2.9% $83,100 19.1% 5.7 M
#9 Netherlands 1% $48,000 10.4% 16.9 M
#10 United Kingdom 3% $39,800 -5.9% 64.1 M
#11 Hong Kong 2.5% $55,100 1.9% 7.1 M
#12 Switzerland 1.9% $58,100 7.2% 8.1 M
#13 Iceland 1.8% $44,000 3.6% 0.3 M
#14 Australia 2.7% $46,600 -3% 22.8 M
#15 Belgium 1.1% $43,100 1.6% 11.3 M
#16 Portugal 0.9% $27,100 0.6% 10.8 M
#17 Lithuania 3% $27,300 0.1% 2.9 M
#18 Germany 1.6% $46,200 7.4% 80.9 M
#19 Estonia 2.9% $27,900 0.1% 1.3 M
#20 Slovenia 3% $29,900 6.9% 2 M
#21 Taiwan 3.8% $46,000 12.4% 23.4 M
#22 United States 2.4% $54,400 -2.2% 321.4 M
#23 Japan -0.1% $37,500 0.5% 126.9 M



After I Lived in Norway, America Felt Backward. Here’s Why.
A crash course in social democracy.

By Ann JonesJANUARY 28, 2016
http://www.thenation.com/article/after-i-lived-in-norway-america-felt-backward-heres-why/

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Response to kristopher (Reply #50)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 01:54 PM

52. America is number one...

 

in the places that we do not want to be number one.

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Response to SoLeftIAmRight (Original post)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 03:08 PM

53. Bernie is blowing up the Reagainist narrative of the last 36 years.

In the minds of the Beltway-addled morons that is sacrilege and heresy and Bernie and his supporters must be burned at the stake to appease the holy Free Market.

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Response to SoLeftIAmRight (Original post)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 07:32 PM

57. As Bernie says

 

"I don't want you to think like me, I want you to think! "

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Response to SoLeftIAmRight (Original post)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 07:36 PM

58. K&R.

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Response to SoLeftIAmRight (Original post)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 09:27 PM

61. More people need to stop watching TV

There are many wise people that quietly offer rational solutions to many of the problems that we face. It is time to listen to these voices. It is time to elevate a different and rational approach to our problems.


And doing their own research on the internet. The internet has made all kinds of good (and bad) info available to us. It lets us use our critical thinking skills to determine what is right and what is wrong. TV does not give us that option. We are sheep being fed a line when we watch TV.

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Response to passiveporcupine (Reply #61)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 10:13 PM

62. Link and Freespeach offer some things

 

but most of the good stuff really is on the web

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Response to SoLeftIAmRight (Original post)

Sun Feb 21, 2016, 12:01 AM

65. K&R! This post deserves hundreds of recommendations!

We desperately need a change in the narrative. The nation and the world need a change in the narrative.

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Response to Enthusiast (Reply #65)

Sun Feb 21, 2016, 12:09 AM

67. Many Many Thanks

 

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Response to SoLeftIAmRight (Original post)

Sun Feb 21, 2016, 06:25 AM

74. K&R!

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Response to SoLeftIAmRight (Original post)

Sun Feb 21, 2016, 07:25 AM

75. Change the narrative!

 

Now that is an enthousing prospect!

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Response to SoLeftIAmRight (Original post)

Sun Feb 21, 2016, 08:32 AM

78. A-freaking-men. This is a huge part of why Sanders is so important.

 

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Response to SoLeftIAmRight (Original post)

Sun Feb 21, 2016, 09:53 AM

80. Trickeration

So many democrats say they are progressive but in reality that is only true with social issues. Kudos to those types for that, but socially liberal, while really important, does not totally cover for being a corporate democrat otherwise.

Also being an economic populist progressive further helps those marginalized by many.

We know who the economic populist really is in this race. I had to laugh when Hillary said the multi millions she has received from Wall Street would not have any relation to how she acts toward Wall Street. Hard to believe she could say that with a straight face. Or that most followers must believe that....or do not but don't care.

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Response to SoLeftIAmRight (Original post)

Sun Feb 21, 2016, 10:09 AM

82. Great post. I want to use your last sentence.

 

"Take the chance - accept the challenge - join the movement that can Change the Narrative. "

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