2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumAttempt to place Review-Journal obituary for Hillary Clinton prompts report to Secret Service
The man, who identified himself as Don Schubert, was asked to leave the newspaper building's lobby after he filled out a standard obituary form identifying the deceased as Hillary Rodham Clinton, and listing her date of death as Feb. 20, 2016, the date of Saturday's Democratic Party presidential caucuses. Previously he had called the newsroom to complain about the coin flips that determined the outcome of some Iowa caucuses last month.
The man was seen leaving the RJ parking lot in a maroon Toyota Prius bearing several Bernie Sanders campaign stickers. A security guard said he was also wearing a Sanders sticker on his shirt. The official Sanders campaign website lists "Don Schubert's House" in Long Beach, Calif., as the site of a volunteer phone bank.
http://www.reviewjournal.com/politics/caucuses-2016/attempt-place-review-journal-obituary-hillary-clinton-prompts-report-secret
orpupilofnature57
(15,472 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Last edited Sat Feb 20, 2016, 09:26 AM - Edit history (1)
Note to jury: that was a reference to the saying throw the kitchen sink/drain/ septic tank. I did not compare anyone to "human waste". Thank you for serving.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)How does some cretin wishing she was dead reveal poor character on her part?
I would hope you would join me and all people of good conscience in maintaining such noxious sentiments have no place in the public square.
Thank you in advance.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)How about you get off that high horse and stop making false accusations about other people?
Go put words in someone else's mouth, I tired of this game months ago.
PonyUp
(1,680 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)-beam me up scottie
- beam me up scottie
Oh, you are criticizing her supporters for shedding light on some cretin who predicted her physical demise.
-beam me up scottie
If you think you can intimidate me from speaking my mind there is nothing I can do to disabuse you of that notion.
Have a day.
DSB
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Because I defended myself from your lousy accusation?
Project much?
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)35. LMAO! Now you're implying I'm trying to intimidate you?
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Scared of a girl who talks back?
Why would you introduce gender into our discussion?
and
Why do you assume I know your gender?
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Instead of apologizing you doubled down.
I await your apology.
Thank you in advance.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)I promise to apologize when you apologize for suggesting supporters of Hillary Clinton are akin to human waste:
-beam me up scottie
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511281104#post6
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Why do you keep making false accusations about me?
Are you trying to get my post hidden?
boston bean
(36,221 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)You're good at making accusations but never backing them up, why is that?
boston bean
(36,221 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)boston bean
(36,221 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Link?
boston bean
(36,221 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)boston bean
(36,221 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)boston bean
(36,221 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)Rocky the Leprechaun
(222 posts)You were backing Bean all the way.
Beam me up scottie is correct in this conversation.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)Thank you in advance.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)-beam me up scottie
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511281104#post6
Who is "they" ?
Thank you in advance.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)-beam me up scottie
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511281104#post6
Ms. Bean is the seminal poster. If you apologize to Ms. Bean for suggesting she is akin to human waste I promise to apologize for any slight you think I committed.
Let's see if we can reach some common ground. Would you agree that the gentleman who went to the physical office of the Las Vegas Review Journal to place an obituary for Hillary Clinton displays a combustible mix of zealotry and cretinism, and such a mix is potentially dangerous ?
Thank you in advance.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)I did no such thing and will not discuss anything further until you retract your accusation and apologize.
boston bean
(36,221 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)Since neither one of us is going to apologize, let's see if we can reach some common ground. Would you agree that the gentleman who went to the physical office of the Las Vegas Review Journal to place an obituary for Hillary Clinton displays a combustible mix of zealotry and cretinism, and such a mix is potentially dangerous ?
Thank you in advance.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)"Sitting across the table from a wise man is better than reading a thousand books."
-Ancient Chinese proverb
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)Part of wisdom is knowing that gratuitous use of images and emotions is often a camouflage for paucity of thought.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Your high horse is getting smaller all the time.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Perhaps your associates will have better luck next time.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)View profile
Perhaps your associates will have better luck next time.
"Thou shall not bear false witness."
I didn't alert on any post in this thread and I give permission to the administrator to release all exculpatory information pertaining to your defamatory and unfounded allegation.
"Where do I go to get my reputation back?"
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Perhaps you should try reading my post again.
You'll get it back when you apologize for accusing me three separate times of doing something I didn't.
And if you feel like you've been falsely accused maybe you'll understand why I expect an apology.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)-beam me up scottie
Whom should DSB believe, you:
Perhaps your associates will have better luck next time.
-beam me up scottie
or his lyin eyes?
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Like I said, more projection from you.
Get back to me when you're ready to apologize.
The third person shtick is overdone, really, you should reconsider.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=termsofservice
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Do I really need to get out the dictionary for you?
You are so silly.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)-beam me up scottie
I have no idea who alerted on what. I am not a medium or clairvoyant but you seem to have an idea of who alerted, ergo:
More projection from you. Give it up, the alert failed and I refuse to be baited further.
Perhaps your associates will have better luck next time.
-beam me up scottie
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)How do you know there was an alert and more importantly how do you know the alerter was my associate ?
I am like The Lone Ranger. I roll alone:
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)And I doubt one of them alerted on me.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)boston bean
(36,221 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)boston bean
(36,221 posts)That is rich, since you don't seem to offer the same lee way to others.
However, I will take into consideration the post you were responding to and where said they have reached the septic tank.
No matter how attempt to spin, I gotta agree with DSB that you were implying people (like me the OP) circled the drain down that kitchen sink and now were in the septic tank.
Nice!
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Cliché almost everything one can think of.
When Sally went off to college, she took everything but the kitchen sink. John orders everything but the kitchen sink when he goes out to dinner, especially if someone else is paying for it.
http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/everything+but+the+kitchen+sink
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)But the kitchen sink isn't the only device in a home or where effuse or refuse goes.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)One for this:
And one for this:
boston bean
(36,221 posts)What is it you meant by your statement in question?
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)boston bean
(36,221 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)boston bean
(36,221 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)boston bean
(36,221 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)navarth
(5,927 posts)You are experiencing how easy it is to defend your position when the two attacking you are clearly full of shit. Well done.
I wonder if this is alert stalking. I really do.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)And yes, since at least one of my posts was alerted on after the long exchange I do believe it was a set up.
Not the first nor will it be the last.
I hope your weekend is a long and pleasant one.
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Vattel
(9,289 posts)because you said that a sceptic tank is being thrown at Bernie, then they are being stupid or dishonest, and I would recommend not wasting your time on them.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)I'm going to take your words of wisdom and here them.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)108. beam me up scottie
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You are experiencing how easy it is to defend your position when the two attacking you are clearly full of shit. Well done.
I wonder if this is alert stalking. I really do.
More scatological references. I will take the high road, be the bigger person, and not respond in kind.
I will say that some posters do seem to have an odd preoccupation with human refuse.
While I am typing there is a LInzess commercial on TV, lol.
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)159. Is that the road to Echo Park? nt
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1282701
I don't want to miss the caucus results but I can be at the Orange Line Station in Warner Center in five minutes. Actually, that will give me more than enough time to get back to my apartment.
I am a sweetheart of a guy.
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)Or do you just quietly observe?
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)I am a sweetheart of a guy.
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)Hope you find a partner to roll with.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)172. Well that is sad.
Hope you find a partner to roll with.
You seem to really want to meet me. She literally left for work, moments ago... That means I am home alone... I can be at the Warner Center Orange Line Center in five minutes...I am a sweetheart of a guy.
oasis
(49,382 posts)It's a few feet down on a street that intersects w/Glendale Blvd. it's a small street, I don't remember the name, but you can easily see his tarp from Glendale.
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)DWS prefers McDonalds, I do believe.
Thanks again.
oasis
(49,382 posts)navarth
(5,927 posts)I suggest you spread it on your crops. Not on DU.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)188. Yes I am experiencing an odd preoccupation with human refuse.
I suggest you spread it on your crops. Not on DU.
You, sir or madame, are the one who made the reference:
108. beam me up scottie
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You are experiencing how easy it is to defend your position when the two attacking you are clearly full of shit. Well done.
I wonder if this is alert stalking. I really do.
And with all due respect, if you were looking for a patsy, a whipping boy, or a piñata, you literally couldn't have chosen a worse poster.
To put it colloquially, I don't cotton to bullies, in real life, and especially online.
Have a nice day,
DSB
navarth
(5,927 posts)I am having a day. And I have enjoyed your disingenuous posts very much. Please proceed. And feel free to characterize this as bullying if it helps.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)Maybe in your rarefied milieu you tell strangers they are "full of shit":
108. beam me up scottie
View profile
You are experiencing how easy it is to defend your position when the two attacking you are clearly full of shit. Well done.
I wonder if this is alert stalking. I really do.
but not In my milieu, it just doesn't occur.
Have a nice day.
DSB.
navarth
(5,927 posts)I have been known to tell people when they are full of shit many times.
It was no coincidence that these times coincided with their actually being full of shit.
Care to have the last word? The entertainment value is dropping for me.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)Thank you for providing me with the last word. The entertainment value can be found in your mirror.
sheshe2
(83,751 posts)They used the "gender card" every Hill supporter is accused of? Then deletes. Lol!
Thanks for capturing it. Priceless!
bec
(107 posts)that you only pop up when some off the wall thing happens, like the above story. Just an observation.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)110. I do find it very interesting
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that you only pop up when some off the wall thing happens, like the above story. Just an observation
" I do find it very interesting" that you would like make that observation in light of the fact that I have made over 65,000 posts in a time span of nearly thirteen years, on a veritable potpourri of topics.
All I can say is welcome to my fan club. It starts here and goes around back and through the proverbial corner.
Thank you.
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)Say to the fan club and order yourself a Big Mac.
tblue37
(65,340 posts)was being clever.
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)tblue37
(65,340 posts)showing, even--would represent Hillary's political demise.
It was a stupid stunt, it is embarrassing to the Sanders campaign, and everyone should condemn such behavior.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)No, he shouldn't be taken literally, but physically going to the Las Vegas Review Journal office is scary.
Zealotry and cretinism is a combustible mix.
tblue37
(65,340 posts)restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)with just the right dash of snark
well done!
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)hobbit709
(41,694 posts)On Sat Feb 20, 2016, 08:14 AM an alert was sent on the following post:
I think they've reached the septic tank.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1281135
REASON FOR ALERT
This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.
ALERTER'S COMMENTS
troll and derail,
You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Sat Feb 20, 2016, 08:23 AM, and the Jury voted 1-6 to LEAVE IT.
Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: You have got to be kidding me. There are only a few ways to respond to this OP and this is one of them. One just needs too share one's head and chuckle at desperation.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
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beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)That's how they play the game, same shit, different day.
Thanks, good jury!
Goblinmonger
(22,340 posts)FWIW, I was the only one who left a comment.
On Sat Feb 20, 2016, 08:14 AM an alert was sent on the following post:
I think they've reached the septic tank.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1281135
REASON FOR ALERT
This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.
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troll and derail,
You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Sat Feb 20, 2016, 08:23 AM, and the Jury voted 1-6 to LEAVE IT.
Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: You have got to be kidding me. There are only a few ways to respond to this OP and this is one of them. One just needs too share one's head and chuckle at desperation.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I think alerter is more of a troll.
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
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beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)One day last week there were four failed alerts on my posts.
Thanks!
UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)In a article written by Karoli Kuns...... her first paragraph goes like this.
You know what? I still don't have a dog in this primary race but this is just unnecessary and uncalled for. All the incendiary rhetoric on the left side of the primaries seems to have caused some people to lose their damn minds.
Check out her Twitter feed and tell me if you find this statement true......
circling the drain indeed........
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)but did not know the name, thanks now I have a name to match the face.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)The only person at fault is the nutjob.
stone space
(6,498 posts)Just sayin'...
If you have any information on who is behind this (as you do seem to have, given your post here), you should contact the proper authorities and let them know.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
Skwmom
(12,685 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Skwmom
(12,685 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)supporting it
tk2kewl
(18,133 posts)Last edited Sat Feb 20, 2016, 01:22 PM - Edit history (1)
is it possible that it was an obit for the HRC Campaign and not the person?
either way it does seem to be little more than snark off the rails
Go Vols
(5,902 posts)cyberswede
(26,117 posts)Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)somehow makes this OUR fault?
Yeah, right.
boston bean
(36,221 posts)as a volunteer and location for a phone bank?
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)PonyUp
(1,680 posts)boston bean
(36,221 posts)Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)He doesn't want HRC dead, and we don't either.
Either a dirty trick or one guy gone off his meds.
Bernie and his real supporters are blameless.
boston bean
(36,221 posts)Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)It has no place in GD , since it has nothing to do with the campaign.
boston bean
(36,221 posts)Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)boston bean
(36,221 posts)Skwmom
(12,685 posts)oasis
(49,382 posts)the OP. Buying expensive real estate for a cheap dirty trick is a tough one to figure.
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)it was funny to declare the Hillary campaign dead. It actually is a bit funny. The only thing that got him in trouble was leaving the word 'campaign' out of it.
oasis
(49,382 posts)The homeless fellow, Edward, has taken down his large, Feel the Bern sign on Glendale Blvd. I don't know whether or not he was forced to remove it since it was on a public walkway. He's been gone for over a week.
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)oasis
(49,382 posts)What I believe to be his blue tarp and other belongings are about 15-20 feet from where the sign was set up.
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)leftofcool
(19,460 posts)peace13
(11,076 posts)Add to that the stupid ones and there's always the chance of something like this. This is no reflexion on either campaign just a very unfortunate incident. If this guy truly does run a phone bank he needs to lose all connection with the organization.
boston bean
(36,221 posts)peace13
(11,076 posts)NBachers
(17,108 posts)Vinca
(50,269 posts)In any case, I think half the people in this country are ignorant, nuts or both so it's not surprising.
mhatrw
(10,786 posts)DOA
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)stone space
(6,498 posts)AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service
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Attempt to place Review-Journal obituary for Hillary Clinton prompts report to Secret Service
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511281104
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boston bean
(36,221 posts)Merryland
(1,134 posts)Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)Some folks have lost it.
LuvLoogie
(7,001 posts)DrDan
(20,411 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)wyldwolf
(43,867 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Lower than whale **it it seems.
Pathetic.
This is the kind of hater Hillary has to deal with from the left and right. I see no difference between the two either.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)they just won't all make the papers..
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)I don't recall anyone here implying it was a Hillary supporter.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)mental illness trumps all. except of course, when it is used as a political tool
wait,,did someone say tool?
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)They really don't want to go there.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)both political smarts and basic street smarts.
whoever is on their payroll is waaaaaay overpaid.
stonecutter357
(12,697 posts)mcar
(42,307 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)retrowire
(10,345 posts)And thank you Hillary Supporters for not posting this in your highly protected Hillary group so that could say that!
JTFrog
(14,274 posts)it's not like Hillary supporters could post it in the highly protected Bernie group.
retrowire
(10,345 posts)SoapBox
(18,791 posts)"When reached by phone Friday night, Schubert said he had been called by a Secret Service agent. He said he told the agent the obituary attempt was done in "political humor," a predictive reference to Clinton losing Saturday's Nevada caucuses."
Now let's talk about David Brock about what kind of lying fucking shithole he is.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)Historic NY
(37,449 posts)Look like Sanders crew is channeling Lee Atwater.
DUbeornot2be
(367 posts)...that so many here pretend the guy wasn't simply making a stupid joke about Hillary's political future shows how desperate her camp has become...
The good news...
Yes... Her political career will soon be in the past...
Can't happen soon enough!
Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)Response to boston bean (Original post)
JRLeft This message was self-deleted by its author.
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)even further. It was an obvious joke about the death of her campaign and the poutrage her is ridiculous.
Tarc
(10,476 posts)This is just a lone jackass doing a jackass thing, I don't think it casts any sort of pall on the Sanders campaign itself, but it still needs to be taken seriously, and investigated seriously.
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)Did Hillary get a 'Secret Service chat' when she mentioned Obama possibly being assassinated?
Tarc
(10,476 posts)What this clown did is a death threat, sad to see you so Bernie-clingy that you cannot admit even that, but there's one in every crowd...
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)Maybe she should be arrested.
Tarc
(10,476 posts)When you say that, you are a liar.
Welcome to ignore.
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)Adios pal, I'll miss you.
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)I'm sure the campaign HQ will pretend they never knew nothing nohow but it looks they've been BUSTED.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)No shocker.
1939
(1,683 posts)I wonder what the time, typing, and mental gymnastics spent by the participants contributes to victory in November
DrDan
(20,411 posts)Go Vols
(5,902 posts)http://www.newser.com/story/220888/man-writes-obituary-for-clinton-gets-secret-services-attention.html
zappaman
(20,606 posts)It berns.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)....(with thanks to Mark Twain)