TAD DEVINE Still working for Bernie Sanders

But if he runs I don't want any Democrat to be tainted with Russia. If he keeps Devine around people will imply he is guilty by association so I hope he cuts ties with Devine. There are no shortage of consultants who would love to work for him.

as the remaining faction of his early following in the party becomes increasingly hostile to mainstream Democrats.

Hopefully the current trends will reverse as the Mueller report and prosecutions climax, but right now this nation is developing factions who fight Russia (Democrats and a minority of conservatives) and those who either merely welcome Russia's assistance in their fight against Democrats and/or those who actively ally with Russia (Republican Party, other conservatives/libertarians, and some left-wing groups).

For a long time Sanders himself has been straddling those sides, occasionally siding with Democrats against Republicans, fighting to unseat Democrats from office, and presumably only tacitly accepting Russia's assistance in trying to weaken the Democratic Party.

Now that Sanders has ditched his temporary identity as a Democrat, though, many of his harder-core followers have ditched any straddle and deepened their antagonism toward the mainstream of the Democratic Party. As this type goes more extreme, the differences between them and the extreme right grow narrower.

Ohio's OR types endorsed Dennis Kucinich, a long-time apologist for Russia who's become a Fox commentator, endorsed Hannity's claims of a Democratic "deep state" out to get Trump, cast Michael Flynn as a victim, and at one point called Trump's Russia problems "a bunch of nothing." Many details in Kucinich's behavior have even lead some to speculate that he might have been compromised by Russia in yet another "how else to explain it" phenomenon.

So many examples, but a rather frivolous one that nevertheless sticks is the Our Revolution chapter that somewhat bizarrely was going to protest at a Hillary Clinton speaking engagement a couple months ago, something that must have made sense to them. Sanders dissociated from their actions, but that they chose to attack Clinton instead of any of dozens of corrupt, fascistic and even treasonous Republicans in their region is indicative. As is these types' pervasive hostility toward us on social media wherever they gather.

This type would, of course, support Sanders running as a Democrat as long as they saw it as a hostile incursion into the party, but as they become increasingly known for hostility, I really doubt we'd allow this in 2020. Hopefully, their enemy-of-my-enemy support for Russia will become too damaging to continue by then, but it could also instead increase.

There is nothing in the linked article regarding "Putin asset" as your OP describes. Nor has Devine been charged or indicted for anything.

Nothing in TOS to remove this from DU.
It is legitimate.
Mueller's finding was made public. What are we supposed to believe? We have a duty to question this.

We should be concerned whenever its found out that the Kremlin has links to our Party.

I'm sure Sanders is concerned as well & am sure he will denounce Devine's business ties between Manafort & his campaign.

It is said Sanders was used by Devine/Manafort.

Bernie Sanders needs to clear his name from this nasty connection that brought us Donald Trump.

ASAP PLEASE! Then we can all move forward assuredly.

We have a right & a duty to expect it be put to rest.
Sanders is the only one who must do so.
Clear his good name.

Thanks

I'm sure we can wait for you to correct your addition of that sentence that Ruby Cramer didn't put in her written and published article

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1016211489

....word for word. I presume that's one of the reasons the link to the column is provided, so everyone can read it for themselves.

that is not put there by the reporter who wrote the piece. Unless it's Fox News. They do it to mislead and obfuscate, those of use who pay attention can catch that trick easily. It's not cool to attempt to pass off one's personal opinion as a part of a reporters published story in a way that attempts to make it read like a part of the story.

is nothing but a theory -- a conspiracy theory imo.

Not to mention you embellished the conspiracy theory further with your statement that it was in
Mueller's finding". Your quote exactly. The evidence list is not a "finding" by any stretch. It's a list of evidence that will be introduced and used in the trial used to support the charges against Manafort, not Devine ... and there is zero indication that Devine is going to be accused or indicted for a crime by Manafort.

after this paragraph from the article:


No sentence containing the words "He lied." in the article as it was
written by Ruby Cramer whose article the poster tampered with. The article then goes on to the next paragraph. Very deceitful thing to do by the poster.


This is the link to the article: https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/rubycramer/top-bernie-sanders-adviser-named-in-the-evidence-list-for

This is from the OP:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1016211489



Notice the sentence with words "He lied." are in what the OP posted but not in the original article. We all know why that was added.

And NOW Mueller's findings show Devine was a regular in sharing emails & contact with Manafort as late as 2014, which incidently is the same time RU got heavily involved in selecting Trump above all others.

"HE LIED", Is not a lie.

Tampering with evidence?
Nope.
Bye

You added the sentence "He lied." to the article, the author who wrote the piece did not have that sentence, you added it in your excerpt.

TAD DEVINE LIED.

BYE.

The author of the piece did not write those words. You added that to the paragraph, and bolded everything , hoping no one would notice.

You underlined that part so we know that is your opinion.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/rubycramer/top-bernie-sanders-adviser-named-in-the-evidence-list-for …
4:07 PM - Jul 20, 2018



You didn't bother to underline your opinion He lied. You just let it flow.

He's is neck deep in Manafort's KGB associations, & he lies to cover it up.

Why . Why did he Lie about it?

Tad DeVine, the man who's credibility has now dropped to z.e.r.o.

Can't wait for Mueller's next big reveal as to who else Lied.

Thank the gods for Robrrt Mueller

Like when details are made up and included in someones published work by someone for "whatever" reason.

It really is all in the details then, isn't it.

Thanks for pointing it out.
I think we've made progress here today.

Later...

....and it seems that he was still working with him in 2014. That isn't made up, and it contradicts what Devine said previously, i.e. - he lied.

reporter who wrote the article , "made up" any details. No one has said that. Unless I missed that post? I myself think the reporter Ruby Cramer, wrote a very clear, well balanced and informative article.

Devine Lied.

Next question:
What's he covering up ?
Did he think his lie would go unnoticed by Robert Mueller?

Indictments will come to the complicit.
Let the chips fall...

https://writingcommons.org/open-text/research-methods-methodologies/integrate-evidence/incorporate-evidence/453-inserting-or-altering-words-in-a-direct-quotation

Maybe I missed it.


Meeting fam for the afternoon. We can continue our discussion later.

Bye!
Been a pleasure chatting with you.
Thanks

Just pointing out what you did to someones published work.

The Truth of the article still remains the truth of Tad Devine's Lie that he had nothing to do with Manafort since their old electioneering days in the Ukraine for Putin.

Proof remains in Manafort's EMAILS.
Imagine that. Its Manafort's EMAILS that'll bust this coup on America's Govt wide open.
Well that & a lot of other data that Mueller has to reveal.

Ha! The EMAILS!!
There's some serious irony in this sordid mess.
Ya think?


Later..really have to be on my way.

Been fun Atumn, thanks!

just assumptions. And you know what they say about assumptions

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What a weird statement.

The only one who knows what is contained in the documents and what they prove or don't prove are Muellers team and the courts. It will come out in their time. Devine's company represents or has represented a lot of Democrats over the years, not just Bernie Sanders.
I did find out that Julian Mulvey was the Creative Director of the Bernie Sanders for President TV advertising.

He did my favorite, America.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=2nwRiuh1Cug

too overwhelmed with all the nastiness going on.

That was a great ad.

I remember when Hillary aligned herself with Mark Penn. I knew it was a mistake to have someone that dastardly attached to her campaign. If Devine is implicated in any way Bernie should dump him ASAP.

reported out. But,if is had a Hillary tie in,you know damn well it would have been reported out.

We voters have a right & a duty to expect this be dealt with swiftly.

You are correct about Clinton.
I recall that with a Wall Street speech she was condemned to being forever "in the pocket of Wall Street"

This Kremlin link is far more serious & I hope Sanders stands up for his good name and quickly denounces all ties to Devine until Mueller either indicts Devine or clears him.

This is extremely concerning.
Sanders can immediately put the concerns to rest.
Hope he takes this as serious as we all do.

😐

work should have seen to that. It has to put a question mark over Sanders judgement.

They thought they were all safe.

See exhibits 17-19

I assumed that since the OP's "he lied" was before the "snip," that it was OP's own opinion. I agree that we need to distinguish our opinions from what we snip. Personally, I wouldn't have bolded both my opinion and the snippet. But then I haven't been brave enough to post anything yet!

Manafort & Kilimnick are some awfully heavy Kremlin cronies to be trying to untangle oneself from.
The proof is right there for the world to see.
Mueller will blow the lid off the whole shebang in due time.

Only wish Bernie would denounce his current ties to that Manafort powder keg.
He could emerge quite a leader for this country rather than fight for legitimacy under this Kremlin cloud of suspicion.

He owes it to himself, his constituents & his country.

Definition of truth
plural truths play ˈtrüt͟hz, ˈtrüths
1 a (1) : the body of real things, events, and facts : actuality
(2) : the state of being the case : fact
(3) often capitalized : a transcendent fundamental or spiritual reality
b : a judgment, proposition, or idea that is true or accepted as true

Seems like an aweful lot of correspondence passed from Manafort to TAD.

Mueller already knows what those conversations were about.
He already has read the EMAILS.
That's why he made public the list

He knows what was discussed as the campaigns were just being formed.
That is a timeline that sets the stage for the rest of the campaign.

Will be an interesting moment when Robert Mueller pulls the veils from the faces.

him for months in 2015 and 2016. But he kept quiet about it. Russia continues to promote his dissension by greatly augmenting those of his messages they find helpful in their war against the Democratic Party.

This all only came out when revealed by others. Sanders did NOT inform the nation of or denounce Russia's involvement on his behalf. He also did not warn his supporters of the deluge of toxic Kool-Aid the Kremlin was and is aiming at them specifically and apparently often by name, imo a major betrayal of all who trusted him.

There's a reason Mueller released the Manafort to DeVine Emails to the public this last week.

Mueller does nothing for personal nor political reasons.
He has read what all those emails revealed.

This is serious shite folks.