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Amimnoch

(4,558 posts)
Thu Sep 28, 2017, 07:07 PM Sep 2017

Wow. Bravenak (DU member) going at it with Sarandon!

Came across this on my feed. Some strong feelings there!

https://thedailybanter.com/2017/09/susan-sarandon-sics-her-twitter-bullies/

From the article:

"Susan seems quite out of touch with the realities faced by women of color on the web," Bravenak told the Banter. The incident reminded her of Sarandon's harassment of Dolores Huerta, the United Farm Workers co-founder she got in a shouting match with at the Nevada caucus last year. "Her weaponizing her whiteness and wealth to drive white progressives to attack us shows how removed she is from the daily challenges we face," she continued. "I hope she takes time to self-reflect."


Love her/hate her, Bravenak sure lays it out there.
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Wow. Bravenak (DU member) going at it with Sarandon! (Original Post) Amimnoch Sep 2017 OP
Excellent response! octoberlib Sep 2017 #1
Bravenak wrote an excellrent poem for Hillary. It's on her twitter feed. I don't know how haveahart Sep 2017 #65
Here you go... pamela Sep 2017 #240
That woman is talented. George II Sep 2017 #251
I follow her on Twitter . I must have missed that. Thanks for the info! octoberlib Oct 2017 #458
Score: Bravenak 1, Sarandon and bullies: 0 guillaumeb Sep 2017 #2
+1 BainsBane Sep 2017 #8
I miss her, too. GoCubsGo Sep 2017 #21
I miss her also. all american girl Sep 2017 #37
I am not on Twitter, but I (almost) wish that I were a member. guillaumeb Sep 2017 #50
She really has her hands full yuiyoshida Sep 2017 #42
Bravenak is smart enought to fight a few Sarandons at once. guillaumeb Sep 2017 #48
SHE IS BLOCKING THEM... yuiyoshida Sep 2017 #55
Fighting off bullies? Kentonio Sep 2017 #138
Wrong. Says right in the subtitle that someone "retweets something from a Resistance activist" betsuni Sep 2017 #140
bingo, exactly right yuiyoshida Sep 2017 #142
Apparently the personal animosity allows some people to defend the Ninsianna Sep 2017 #342
Yes. betsuni Sep 2017 #351
Which one is the "bitter, nasty woman". Jim Beard Oct 2017 #445
The one that was telling people that Trump would "bring on the revolution" without Ninsianna Oct 2017 #459
She didn't send Sarandon anything. Sarandon decided to step in Ninsianna Sep 2017 #144
Ah right, so it's about not bullying women? Kentonio Sep 2017 #253
Well, SS is not a victim here she was the bully. all american girl Sep 2017 #303
Either bullying women is ok or it's not ok Kentonio Sep 2017 #333
Bravenak made a meme expressing her views of SS all american girl Sep 2017 #347
+1 betsuni Sep 2017 #350
+1,000,000 Ninsianna Oct 2017 #425
Ah, right, the bullying of Bravenak is somehow not about the bullying of women. Ninsianna Sep 2017 #338
Ah right, so disagreement means I'm a racist. Kentonio Sep 2017 #340
Defending racist and misogynistic bullies is what you're doing. Ninsianna Sep 2017 #341
You're doing a gross disservice to racial equality Kentonio Sep 2017 #365
This is the exact attack that people who get called out defending racists engage in Ninsianna Sep 2017 #409
Kentonio , I hate to see you ignore because what is then left is the Jim Beard Oct 2017 #447
Don't you know? cwydro Sep 2017 #369
As is common on DU Jim Beard Oct 2017 #443
True dat. nt cwydro Oct 2017 #444
+1 all american girl Sep 2017 #359
Bravenak started this nonsense. cwydro Sep 2017 #372
Well, actually, that's not true. Ninsianna Sep 2017 #407
That's a hell of a twist on reality. Ms. Toad Oct 2017 #441
Saradon is a boil upon the arse of humanity. She is an unrepentant Trump supporter...when she Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #355
+1 all american girl Sep 2017 #360
I despise her ...hope Brave rips her a new one. Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #379
If you don't know how Twitter works, probably best not to comment n/t kcr Sep 2017 #146
If someone puts out a "fuck you" meme with any other person's name cwydro Sep 2017 #191
Not if the person deserves it, like Sarandon and Trump and Republicans. betsuni Sep 2017 #193
We know she deserves it, but obviously she wouldn't think so. cwydro Sep 2017 #207
Agreed.. disillusioned73 Sep 2017 #224
You got that right. nt cwydro Sep 2017 #246
lol civility is the concern now? JHan Sep 2017 #278
It seems they think the white lady... SMC22307 Oct 2017 #439
Thank you. Jim Beard Oct 2017 #448
Se didn't send it to her...but SS thought it was cool to send her all american girl Sep 2017 #149
Agreed Gothmog Sep 2017 #235
+1000 (nt) ehrnst Sep 2017 #237
me too, big time. JHan Sep 2017 #277
"Weaponizing Her Whiteness" Me. Sep 2017 #3
Love her! Tarheel_Dem Sep 2017 #4
K&R Gothmog Sep 2017 #5
Bravenak is a true social warrior. She isnt perfect, but she gets it DONE! Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #6
Who is nt tymorial Sep 2017 #121
"Getting it done" is way better than perfectionism, IMHO. (nt) ehrnst Sep 2017 #238
+1! arthritisR_US Sep 2017 #279
She's AWESOME! BainsBane Sep 2017 #7
KNR Thank you! Lucinda Sep 2017 #9
K&R! That's our Bravenak! lunamagica Sep 2017 #10
Interesing... Mike Nelson Sep 2017 #11
I was following that and wow...some real racists out there all american girl Sep 2017 #38
Where is she? NT Bleacher Creature Sep 2017 #12
She got booted Nevernose Sep 2017 #16
Wow, I had a feeling it wasn't by choice, but I had no idea why. Bleacher Creature Sep 2017 #18
I'm totally hazy on the details Nevernose Sep 2017 #23
Looks like she's FFR, not actually banned. Amimnoch Sep 2017 #24
You're not off base melman Sep 2017 #25
That's actually not true. I have Jewish heritage and was accused of being anti-Semitic, too. George II Sep 2017 #29
Article in the OP talks about another victim who had the same accusation slung at her. kcr Sep 2017 #160
Yep there are unreasonable people in every demographic treestar Sep 2017 #212
During the election? Have you looked at this thread? 6000eliot Oct 2017 #450
In what context? oberliner Sep 2017 #174
I'd love to tell you but that might cause me some problems. George II Sep 2017 #216
I'm gay and was reported for being homophobic on here. 6000eliot Oct 2017 #449
Well document it here now. Don't make that kind of accusation without proof. brush Sep 2017 #33
See my post 29, I was too. Seems if you criticize someone who is Jewish you're anti-Semitic. George II Sep 2017 #45
I remember that line of "attack' being trumped up because Hillary is a woman. R B Garr Sep 2017 #57
Ummhmm sheshe2 Sep 2017 #77
Then document it, instead of throwing out accusations. I never saw it.n/t pnwmom Sep 2017 #34
This has been discussed here many times melman Sep 2017 #35
I don't know what you're talking about. n/t pnwmom Sep 2017 #41
Then do a search melman Sep 2017 #47
You made the assertion; it's up to you to back it up. I'm not going on any wild goose chases. nt pnwmom Sep 2017 #49
That's the way it goes around here...."you go find what I said". George II Sep 2017 #52
"made the assertion" melman Sep 2017 #64
You made the assertion: "Her anti-semitism is well documented." pnwmom Sep 2017 #74
Well documented they say? sheshe2 Sep 2017 #404
So well known??? sheshe2 Sep 2017 #80
Oh please, who remembers treestar Sep 2017 #213
I don't know either. Jim Beard Oct 2017 #451
Well melman Oct 2017 #453
LMGTFY... progressoid Sep 2017 #167
This message was self-deleted by its author JonLP24 Sep 2017 #169
Oh yes melman Sep 2017 #170
What "apology"? What "anti-Semitic comments"? Don't see any. George II Sep 2017 #280
Right melman Sep 2017 #283
No one knows for sure what it said - anyone have a screen shot? George II Sep 2017 #286
Sorry melman Sep 2017 #289
Snort. Ok, maybe she was "apologizing" for bad grammar. progressoid Sep 2017 #295
I still don't see anything anti-Semitic. George II Sep 2017 #301
Yep, those DUers accepting her apology mistakenly thought it was about her anti-Semitic comments. progressoid Sep 2017 #320
This message was self-deleted by its author George II Sep 2017 #322
Curious, all of these posts talk about "anti-Semitism", yet no one can show us a single word.... George II Sep 2017 #358
Everyone has seen it melman Sep 2017 #366
Never happened. And it's only proven out by the fact that no one can post a single... George II Sep 2017 #367
It's been posted many times melman Sep 2017 #368
And yet no one seems to be able to find it. Why is that? George II Sep 2017 #374
It's been posted many times melman Sep 2017 #376
On DU? This very thread? Really? I've read every post (all 300+).... George II Sep 2017 #385
Sure melman Sep 2017 #387
Funny thing, I say something doesn't exist, you say it does but can't point me to it. George II Sep 2017 #389
Who says I can't? melman Sep 2017 #390
Oh, you've taken a poll of all the people here? NO ONE has seen it, it does not exist. George II Sep 2017 #391
No one? melman Sep 2017 #392
Why ask me? You "read" what the apology was about didn't you? George II Sep 2017 #393
This is all very transparent melman Sep 2017 #396
I never saw it. sheshe2 Sep 2017 #406
Sorry melman Sep 2017 #408
I have heard that Chess helps the mind block out unpleasant thoughts and is relaxing. It is a game I Jim Beard Oct 2017 #452
That's nice melman Oct 2017 #454
I missed that. cwydro Sep 2017 #53
If it was discussed here "many times" surely it wouldn't take you long to find one, true? George II Sep 2017 #70
Find one? melman Sep 2017 #78
You're the one who made a characterization about a member here which may or may not be true.... George II Sep 2017 #81
True. sheshe2 Sep 2017 #84
And it's not even true. I wonder if anyone here even knows what being "anti-Semitic" really is.... George II Sep 2017 #88
She made a single unfortunate statement, probably in anger. But that commenter is exaggerating stevenleser Sep 2017 #98
+++++ JHan Sep 2017 #104
It was more than a single statement and you know that. She was quite the disruptor berni_mccoy Sep 2017 #105
Nope, the only statement I remember was linked below by "Still One" stevenleser Sep 2017 #106
She posted vile shit from RWer sources berni_mccoy Sep 2017 #108
Are we still discussing the antisemitism accusation or are you now throwing anything at her that stevenleser Sep 2017 #109
Did you read it? berni_mccoy Sep 2017 #110
On a scale of 1-10 in terms of antisemitic statements made toward me in my life stevenleser Sep 2017 #113
Your claim was she made a single statement. That's pretty much NOT true at all. berni_mccoy Sep 2017 #116
You linked the same one I knew about and that still_one posted below. If you know more stevenleser Sep 2017 #117
For some reason, some are reposting the same reference I referred to, and referencing it as though still_one Sep 2017 #352
I'll send you a PM with my full thoughts but it's clear some still have it out for her and stevenleser Sep 2017 #361
Except you won't find anything re Brav there. nt fleabiscuit Sep 2017 #151
You're going to accuse her of being a fake activist? pnwmom Sep 2017 #132
Well, if there was more than one, as I said to the other person who claimed.... George II Sep 2017 #218
She wasn't just Banned from DU, she was banned from Kos berni_mccoy Sep 2017 #227
This is DU, what happens anywhere else is irrelevant. And she wasn't banned from DU. George II Sep 2017 #230
It's not irrelevant. And FFR for MONTHS is effectively, yes, Banned. berni_mccoy Sep 2017 #248
The effect may be the same, but the implications aren't. It isn't the same. kcr Sep 2017 #269
I find it troubling that she posted on that rightwing site. cwydro Sep 2017 #261
I am confused at your response to McCoy. sheshe2 Sep 2017 #410
Yes. cwydro Sep 2017 #299
Thanks, stevenleser! n/t pnwmom Sep 2017 #131
She stated that she opposed Bernie "to repay the Jews in kind". She back-peddled later redgreenandblue Sep 2017 #172
You can have your opinion, Jews like me on DU have ours stevenleser Sep 2017 #192
Right. Because you magically know my cultural identity and have polled "99% of Jewish DUers" redgreenandblue Sep 2017 #198
I can tell pretty easily by how you have politicized this. No one actually concerned stevenleser Sep 2017 #199
Right. I have "politicized this"... redgreenandblue Sep 2017 #202
Yup, your #173 below shows what your concern really is. nt stevenleser Sep 2017 #223
I bet that one will get ignored. Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #284
+1 happy feet Sep 2017 #181
Does that forgiveness apply to other people who make bigoted comments? EllieBC Sep 2017 #205
There was a poster who accused people treestar Sep 2017 #214
Again, depending on exactly what was said? Yes. This was pretty mild. nt stevenleser Sep 2017 #221
Do tell mcar Sep 2017 #96
So prove it. murielm99 Sep 2017 #136
In what context were you accused of anti-Semitism? oberliner Sep 2017 #177
Whether she provides the details or not I believe her, it happened to me stevenleser Sep 2017 #194
No lack of belief on my part oberliner Sep 2017 #201
All right. murielm99 Sep 2017 #330
That's a pretty serious charge to make lapucelle Sep 2017 #83
Pls don't just believe an accusation like that with no documentation brush Sep 2017 #31
It was real. Susan Calvin Sep 2017 #85
True. IMO it is disingenuous to treestar Sep 2017 #215
Well, She Was To Some RobinA Sep 2017 #122
She wasn't continually offensive to many here. She was alert stalked here though... brush Sep 2017 #139
And for one reason and one reason only, she was critical of Bernie Sanders. Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #285
Exactly, the sainted one. brush Sep 2017 #325
Yes. sheshe2 Sep 2017 #413
It's documented. progressoid Sep 2017 #168
Certified internet documentation. Wow! kcr Sep 2017 #176
Sure. progressoid Sep 2017 #220
She didn't get banned from DU kcr Sep 2017 #231
I don't expect you to speak for her. progressoid Sep 2017 #233
Yep, she could. It's a shame she can't. kcr Sep 2017 #268
Post removed Post removed Sep 2017 #232
"It's documented." betsuni Sep 2017 #179
One-off? progressoid Sep 2017 #225
I Figured RobinA Sep 2017 #120
Well, you were wrong. She didn't "slunk away" lunamagica Sep 2017 #134
I doubt that is a fair characterization treestar Sep 2017 #211
Wait a minute. I don't remember any anti-Semitism from Bravenak. You'd better back that up... brush Sep 2017 #30
Google it. Nevernose Sep 2017 #32
Saw some accusations on there, but no proof at all. Amimnoch Sep 2017 #39
There is no proof because it's bullshit. kcr Sep 2017 #147
You can start... tonedevil Sep 2017 #46
Interesting. I just checked Front Page out-it's an extreme right wing site. jalan48 Sep 2017 #67
There's noting by brav there. nt fleabiscuit Sep 2017 #153
She was active on DU until April or so LeftInTX Sep 2017 #54
She is, I was incorrect about "booting" Nevernose Sep 2017 #56
She is FFR mcar Sep 2017 #92
I've been here since the beginning. Nevernose Sep 2017 #125
FFR is Flagged For Review meaning Unable to post for as long as the admins feel you deserve stevenleser Sep 2017 #128
It is also an automated thing when you get a few hides in a row. joshcryer Sep 2017 #163
She was flagged, given amnesty after people whined to the admins, then flagged again redgreenandblue Sep 2017 #175
That's because she was alert stalked. Lots of us were. bettyellen Sep 2017 #258
And many of us continue to be alert stalked. Even though we are the recipients of the nasty stevenleser Sep 2017 #259
Post removed Post removed Sep 2017 #266
This message was self-deleted by its author JonLP24 Sep 2017 #267
I have had three posts that were hidden overturned by admins because the alerts were unfounded. stevenleser Sep 2017 #270
This message was self-deleted by its author JonLP24 Sep 2017 #272
Nope. Apparently it's just 5 hidden posts and one becomes FFR Ninsianna Sep 2017 #403
This message was self-deleted by its author JonLP24 Sep 2017 #416
I was otherwise occupied during the primaries. Ninsianna Oct 2017 #418
Okay melman Sep 2017 #274
Nope, that is not true. I believe Skinner has said as much stevenleser Oct 2017 #438
I think you were just proven wrong. pintobean Sep 2017 #273
This message was self-deleted by its author JonLP24 Sep 2017 #275
See post #266 above. If I say anything more than that it's technically alertable. nt stevenleser Sep 2017 #306
That is an absolute fact. Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #288
No it's not melman Sep 2017 #263
She was definitely alert staked, a lot of POC and feminists have been subjected to alert stalking bettyellen Sep 2017 #264
Unconditional support of the Democratic Party can get you in big trouble around here Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #290
No it can't melman Sep 2017 #294
Yep - and banned at Kos as well. KTM Sep 2017 #276
And banned from Reddit Rob H. Oct 2017 #424
Yep she was, if you think hostile was supporting Hillary all american girl Sep 2017 #308
+1 betsuni Sep 2017 #394
+++ sheshe2 Sep 2017 #415
She apologized for those comments. joshcryer Sep 2017 #161
Her apology would have been credible had she stopped smearing Bernie. redgreenandblue Sep 2017 #173
And there's the agenda. n/t kcr Sep 2017 #178
Bernie, Bernie, Bernie! betsuni Sep 2017 #180
One has absolutely nothing to do with the other but its telling that you link the two stevenleser Sep 2017 #195
If a person who made racist statements against Obama decided to denounce racism but redgreenandblue Sep 2017 #196
You are making clear she was targeted because of Bernie. R B Garr Sep 2017 #203
She made it clear that her activities on DU were intended to generate negative responses. redgreenandblue Sep 2017 #204
I read the same thing and didn't see it that way. I saw R B Garr Sep 2017 #206
You know, it was OK to not like bernie. She had every right to all american girl Sep 2017 #311
OH please treestar Sep 2017 #217
Well, there's a bit of irony. progressoid Sep 2017 #228
Bravenak is more of a person in our lives treestar Sep 2017 #229
YMMV progressoid Sep 2017 #234
So she wasn't allowed to not like bernie? No sure I get the "how convenient" all american girl Sep 2017 #309
Post removed Post removed Sep 2017 #417
Love her! Cary Sep 2017 #13
I love her shes my favorite follow. ismnotwasm Sep 2017 #14
I love bravenak. sheshe2 Sep 2017 #15
I love that top image BainsBane Sep 2017 #17
I happened upon it. sheshe2 Sep 2017 #20
Thanks... Sancho Sep 2017 #59
Hey! sheshe2 Sep 2017 #72
Still love you, bravenak! Wherever you are! calimary Sep 2017 #75
Tee hee... sheshe2 Sep 2017 #89
Post removed Post removed Sep 2017 #164
Wow.....It got that bad ? JHan Sep 2017 #208
Love her. She's not perfect, but none of us are. bettyellen Sep 2017 #19
Love her! Skidmore Sep 2017 #22
I don't think I've ever been as disappointed in a "liberal" woman as I am in Sarandon. catbyte Sep 2017 #26
Her (Sarandon) sentiments are very popular among many, but many of the many will not admit it Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #291
Bravenak rocks leftofcool Sep 2017 #27
Looks like a pissing contest to me. Lil Missy Sep 2017 #28
I miss Bravenak NastyRiffraff Sep 2017 #36
Our queen rocks!!!!!!! all american girl Sep 2017 #40
She's on my twitter feed..... Historic NY Sep 2017 #43
Mine also. I have seen some horrible comments directed at her from 'people'!! riversedge Sep 2017 #252
Some of the worst comments to Bravenak arent in the article ismnotwasm Sep 2017 #44
She is genuine and fearless. brer cat Sep 2017 #51
Bravenak rules shenmue Sep 2017 #58
I miss her and others who were silenced here. Starry Messenger Sep 2017 #60
I probably should get out of my rut Susan Calvin Sep 2017 #91
Susan, there was a thread a while back where DUers shared their user names .... bettyellen Sep 2017 #241
Thanks! Susan Calvin Sep 2017 #256
Easy- but recommend using a "throwaway" email account for privacy. bettyellen Sep 2017 #257
Just like here, my username is complicated... stevenleser Sep 2017 #265
I love it when ass barnacles need marching orders from their master on who to attack next. It's sad. Oneironaut Sep 2017 #61
Love Bravenak LeftInTX Sep 2017 #62
Me too. OKNancy Sep 2017 #69
Bravenak really had things pegged. I've got to hand it to her. R B Garr Sep 2017 #63
I understand the... tonedevil Sep 2017 #66
She made the nine block graphic with 9 different people OKNancy Sep 2017 #68
Does that make it less intense? /nt tonedevil Sep 2017 #73
And the problem with "kind of intense" is? mcar Sep 2017 #100
If you came across... tonedevil Sep 2017 #255
Damn, maybe SS should get off twitter if she can't handle shit like that... all american girl Sep 2017 #152
+1 betsuni Sep 2017 #183
the attack on bravenak done here DonCoquixote Sep 2017 #71
True. Susan Calvin Sep 2017 #93
Post removed Post removed Sep 2017 #101
Yep. nt SunSeeker Sep 2017 #166
True happy feet Sep 2017 #182
Let me preface this by saying I happen to be Jewish, and I do not believe Bravenak is anti semitic still_one Sep 2017 #76
Thank you. nt Susan Calvin Sep 2017 #94
still_one sheshe2 Sep 2017 #95
Well said, still_one mcar Sep 2017 #102
Yep, you and I and every other Jewish person on DU I know accepted her apology. stevenleser Sep 2017 #118
Now isnt that strange! Not really, but well. Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #292
I remember that. herding cats Sep 2017 #137
Haven't seen Bravenak here in a while Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 2017 #79
Mmmm, well.... Susan Calvin Sep 2017 #99
She snatched Susan's edges, it was fabulous. JHan Sep 2017 #82
- Bigredhunk Sep 2017 #86
Love Bravenak! mcar Sep 2017 #87
I miss her too. Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #90
K&R Quayblue Sep 2017 #97
Put me in the "Love Her" column! SunSeeker Sep 2017 #103
For those cheering for Bravenak, you should read this berni_mccoy Sep 2017 #107
Still_one already posted a link to that in #76 above. nt stevenleser Sep 2017 #111
Good. People should be made aware of it as much as possible. berni_mccoy Sep 2017 #114
Every Jewish person on DU is aware of it. 99% of us accepted her apology. stevenleser Sep 2017 #115
You're kind of all over this thread doing this...what's up with that? all american girl Sep 2017 #312
Bravenak was a disruptor and deserves no respect here berni_mccoy Sep 2017 #370
Agreed melman Sep 2017 #373
Well, to be perfectly honest, there were butt loads of right wing talking points all american girl Sep 2017 #375
People jumping on this thread to impunge Bravenaks character ismnotwasm Sep 2017 #112
Odd how some people can never be forgiven for any mistake mcar Sep 2017 #119
And it's all non-Jews who fought with her in the primaries making the accusation now stevenleser Sep 2017 #123
I tend to forgive people who apologize for mistakes mcar Sep 2017 #124
+1000! arthritisR_US Sep 2017 #127
Bravenak is one of my Twitter buddies, she's fearless and so arthritisR_US Sep 2017 #126
Bravenak thanks all of you for the love btw MrScorpio Sep 2017 #129
Hey Bravenak!!! Amimnoch Sep 2017 #282
Bravenak is a marvelous woman. greatauntoftriplets Sep 2017 #130
Wait, is Bravenak gone from DU? CaptainTruth Sep 2017 #133
Flagged For Review Bradical79 Sep 2017 #262
This message was self-deleted by its author JonLP24 Sep 2017 #135
Love her! betsuni Sep 2017 #141
I wonder if Susan Sarandon is Cheering on the Puerto Rico disaster and hoping for a Revolution JI7 Sep 2017 #143
Doesn't she run a sweatshop somewhere? ucrdem Sep 2017 #150
Boom! leftofcool Sep 2017 #158
Several posts in this thread scold people for unsupported allegations Jim Lane Sep 2017 #184
"unsupported smear of Sarandon" betsuni Sep 2017 #200
Perhaps you could stop laughing long enough to provide some actual support? Jim Lane Sep 2017 #250
"unsupported smear": LOL LOL LOL. The irony! betsuni Sep 2017 #346
"Unsupported smear of Susan Sarandon" ? lapucelle Sep 2017 #302
What the HELL is it with reading comprehension on this board? Jim Lane Sep 2017 #310
This is what I responded to: lapucelle Sep 2017 #314
I'm surprised you couldn't follow the connection. It's not complicated. Jim Lane Sep 2017 #319
I'm sure that reconstructing the defense lapucelle Sep 2017 #345
Your attitude is common on DU. It is also utterly despicable. Jim Lane Sep 2017 #348
It's reassuring that Democrats react to SS with the approbation lapucelle Sep 2017 #378
thanks lapucelle ... SS is neither a Democrat nor a member of this board. ucrdem Sep 2017 #381
If her star is long-faded melman Sep 2017 #384
Yes, one wonders about all those TV bookings. ucrdem Sep 2017 #386
Sarandon is an easy scapegoat melman Sep 2017 #388
Goes with the territory. nt ucrdem Sep 2017 #395
Yeah, I never got an answer for that question. Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2017 #397
You're calling someone's attitude here on DU "despicable"? George II Sep 2017 #383
How did Lapucelle lie about Sarandon? ehrnst Sep 2017 #400
Oh, the irony! NanceGreggs Sep 2017 #401
... lapucelle Sep 2017 #405
Here's an unsupported smear from Sarandon all american girl Sep 2017 #313
An interesting response. Jim Lane Sep 2017 #317
On the campaign trail she said many, many times all american girl Sep 2017 #321
Miss this? George II Oct 2017 #422
Here's the skinny: she runs a chain of high-end dives that sell her merch at the door ucrdem Sep 2017 #324
What the hell is sheshe2 Sep 2017 #328
Where forever thirty-somethings go to relive the seventies? ucrdem Sep 2017 #331
....scratch and sniff wall paper... sheshe2 Sep 2017 #336
One actually wrote: "Huerta is a traitor to the Democratic Party. By ignoring Bernie, ucrdem Sep 2017 #337
Here is Huerta. sheshe2 Sep 2017 #339
Awesome. Yet to SS she was just an irritating Hillbot. ucrdem Sep 2017 #343
SS isn't fit to be in the same room with her. sheshe2 Sep 2017 #380
Seriously. ucrdem Sep 2017 #382
+1 betsuni Sep 2017 #332
So much fail in one post Jim Lane Sep 2017 #344
Super invested in defending not only Susie but making sure poor Donnie gets a fair shake too. BannonsLiver Sep 2017 #356
You can add Ted Cruz to your list. Jim Lane Sep 2017 #364
"I actually played ping pong in my youth. I wore sneakers and used a paddle." betsuni Sep 2017 #357
Let them eat ping pong ucrdem Sep 2017 #363
Suddenly, rich elite capitalists who pal around with giant corporations are perfectly fine! betsuni Sep 2017 #399
Ping Pong at prices only the 1% can afford. lapucelle Sep 2017 #412
Marie Antoinette kept a working farm at Versailles ucrdem Sep 2017 #362
It's a movement! lapucelle Sep 2017 #411
and what a big one . . . ucrdem Oct 2017 #455
Holy sh#t. Give 'em hell, Bravenak! ucrdem Sep 2017 #145
Well I remember when Bravenak was open and interested in Jill Stein, too. aikoaiko Sep 2017 #148
You push she will push back. What you make of the response is reconciled in one's own head. nt. fleabiscuit Sep 2017 #154
I think she had all the Hillary bashing she could stand leftofcool Sep 2017 #155
Don't feel like I can do a lot, but I try to have her back. nt fleabiscuit Sep 2017 #156
I'm glad I followed her on Twitter kcr Sep 2017 #157
+1 betsuni Sep 2017 #159
+1 leftofcool Sep 2017 #162
+1 SunSeeker Oct 2017 #426
That's really cool, Yay Bravenak! BlancheSplanchnik Sep 2017 #165
This message was self-deleted by its author redgreenandblue Sep 2017 #171
Meh Loki Liesmith Sep 2017 #185
I miss Bravenak's voice on DU. n/t seaglass Sep 2017 #186
Fwiw, my impression is that Bravenak is far more interested in expressing Hortensis Sep 2017 #187
It takes a Queen JustAnotherGen Sep 2017 #188
Two narcissists slagging each other over 2016. No thanks riderinthestorm Sep 2017 #189
LOL! JimGinPA Sep 2017 #190
. ismnotwasm Sep 2017 #197
Lol JHan Sep 2017 #209
Thanks for the laugh JHan Sep 2017 #210
Lol. Have to agree. Anyway, they're both in a more appropriate arena Hortensis Sep 2017 #222
Thank you. Raster Sep 2017 #271
Another LOL at anyone admiring this shitfest Arazi Sep 2017 #318
LOL. DU's little mouth that roared... SMC22307 Oct 2017 #435
INTERNET DRAMA LOL snooper2 Sep 2017 #219
Hmm people still attacking Bravenek ismnotwasm Sep 2017 #226
Hmm people still attacking Sarandon Cuthbert Allgood Sep 2017 #236
Sarandon was happy to bring on this racist regime to suit her foolish "burn it down" plan.... bettyellen Sep 2017 #242
Sarandon is a public figure ismnotwasm Sep 2017 #254
Attacks on Sarandon are attacks on racism. lapucelle Sep 2017 #307
Well, susan had no problem bringing the sexism all american girl Sep 2017 #315
Hm sheshe2 Sep 2017 #329
one public figure talking to another is not harassment. JCanete Sep 2017 #239
There are legal definitions of harassment and stalking. Yes public figures can be harassed and stevenleser Sep 2017 #243
speaking to somebody in a public place where political activity is occuring, not at her home or JCanete Sep 2017 #244
Unless you cite a legal statute, what you say on this doesnt mean anything. nt stevenleser Sep 2017 #245
oh, I think I misread you. You mean that there is still a legal definition of JCanete Sep 2017 #247
It isn't happening... tonedevil Sep 2017 #249
I'm kinda jealous Blue_Tires Sep 2017 #260
"Queen" romanic Sep 2017 #281
+1 Blue_In_AK Sep 2017 #287
Queen. We will rock you. sheshe2 Sep 2017 #334
Says "fuck you" nine times to someone, receives the desired response, whines about being a victim. redgreenandblue Sep 2017 #293
Exactly melman Sep 2017 #296
Receiving racist abuse is never okay though. romanic Sep 2017 #298
This message was self-deleted by its author JonLP24 Sep 2017 #300
Ah ok. romanic Sep 2017 #335
No, making a joke for her followers and then having a person with more power all american girl Sep 2017 #316
to a multimillionaire who worked to ensure Trump became president BainsBane Sep 2017 #398
WOWEE ZOWEE Me. Sep 2017 #297
I miss Bravenak! wryter2000 Sep 2017 #304
Funny, I don't see her "going at it" with Sarandon. cwydro Sep 2017 #305
Oh Bravenek, I love you girl ismnotwasm Sep 2017 #323
Kick! sheshe2 Sep 2017 #326
The comments after the article are priceless. ucrdem Sep 2017 #327
I, for one, love her lillypaddle Sep 2017 #349
Bravenak, if you see this, I miss you! Squinch Sep 2017 #353
Lots of alerts in this thread Dem2 Sep 2017 #354
How do you know how many alerts there are in this thread? grantcart Sep 2017 #371
Was on a jury Dem2 Oct 2017 #431
Hey Bravenak! Have a great day! lunamagica Sep 2017 #377
wow!!!!! samnsara Sep 2017 #402
I liked Bravenak Texasgal Sep 2017 #414
She and I routinely interact on Twitter. She is always polite. But she does not suffer fools. VermontKevin Oct 2017 #432
Lol, now she's suspended off Twitter. SUSPENDED OFF TWITTER Arazi Oct 2017 #419
Susan or Bravenak? egduj Oct 2017 #420
Bravenak of course. No surprise for that self admitted troll Arazi Oct 2017 #421
Her being suspended is a prime example of white supremacy and privilege. ismnotwasm Oct 2017 #433
Lol, yah banned on here, DKos, reddit, Twitter...all racists eh? Arazi Oct 2017 #434
Yep. Im sure a number Sarandons fans alerted on her and stevenleser Oct 2017 #437
Of course! melman Oct 2017 #446
Imagine that melman Oct 2017 #423
I wonder if she just clicks "Okay" without reading more Rob H. Oct 2017 #428
Wow, indeed! Not knowing if Bravenak was still a member or not, I bowed out of jury duty . . . Petrushka Oct 2017 #427
This message was self-deleted by its author JonLP24 Oct 2017 #429
LOL . . . seems like zillions people think and believe or wish he is! Petrushka Oct 2017 #430
Trumad has a site? Whats the link? stevenleser Oct 2017 #436
This message was self-deleted by its author JonLP24 Oct 2017 #440
Typed on iphone. I guess I type Trump so much it autocorrected. I mean Trumad. nt stevenleser Oct 2017 #442
2 mega threads, must find out who this is Not Ruth Oct 2017 #456
What is this thread about? Jim Beard Oct 2017 #457
A member on long-term time-out Ms. Toad Oct 2017 #460
With all due respect, but I think that some of Sanders' most avid supporters are nutty. Beacool Oct 2017 #461
This message was self-deleted by its author JonLP24 Oct 2017 #462
K&R Jamaal510 Oct 2017 #463
 

haveahart

(905 posts)
65. Bravenak wrote an excellrent poem for Hillary. It's on her twitter feed. I don't know how
Thu Sep 28, 2017, 09:09 PM
Sep 2017

to copy it here. I highly recommend it.

pamela

(3,469 posts)
240. Here you go...
Fri Sep 29, 2017, 12:29 PM
Sep 2017

For Hillary:
Is the world my grave?
Should I hide in loss and refuse human touch?
My proud stance in defeat induces outrage,
they eat my tears, and drink my blood.
Lean on my losses like the veriest crutch.
Should I simply die?
Maybe stop the blood from flowing, to pay your cost?
The fact that I breathe seems to facilitate,
rending of garments; revelries in my loss,
fainting couches and embers of hate…
Do you want me to hide in the woods?
A lonely old woman just picking her way
through the brambles in the wilderness
of lies, and attacks, and abuse that lay
on the path of most resistance?
Shall I dig the hole real deep?
How far beneath the earth should my living body rest?
You’d send me to the place where old women go
when old men would rather see them no more?
Quietly dying on the brink of the crest.
No, the world is not my grave.
I shall not die in shame.
The woods are too quiet to keep me contained.
I will burn up the world until my light dies,
I rise again like the Phoenix, unrestrained.

all american girl

(1,788 posts)
37. I miss her also.
Thu Sep 28, 2017, 08:27 PM
Sep 2017

I go and look at her feed because she's funny and I love her poems. She's still the lovely sassy woman she's always been.

yuiyoshida

(41,807 posts)
42. She really has her hands full
Thu Sep 28, 2017, 08:33 PM
Sep 2017

warding off Bullies... I don't envy that ... I had a hard enough time warding off Right wingers from my DU postings... geeeze!! Some times I wish I had my WARFRAME on so I can battle them with my blades!!!




guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
48. Bravenak is smart enought to fight a few Sarandons at once.
Thu Sep 28, 2017, 08:49 PM
Sep 2017

Agreed that bullies can be an issue everywhere.

yuiyoshida

(41,807 posts)
55. SHE IS BLOCKING THEM...
Thu Sep 28, 2017, 08:57 PM
Sep 2017

That's all you can do, and Its all I could ever do...just like putting them on ignore.


 

Kentonio

(4,377 posts)
138. Fighting off bullies?
Thu Sep 28, 2017, 11:51 PM
Sep 2017

By sending celebrities memes telling them repeatedly to 'fuck off'? Yeah, such a victim..

betsuni

(25,335 posts)
140. Wrong. Says right in the subtitle that someone "retweets something from a Resistance activist"
Thu Sep 28, 2017, 11:58 PM
Sep 2017

Bravenak didn't send it to Sarandon.

yuiyoshida

(41,807 posts)
142. bingo, exactly right
Fri Sep 29, 2017, 12:55 AM
Sep 2017

WTF is it with people HERE blaming the victim?? They THINK she deserves this crap??

Ninsianna

(1,349 posts)
342. Apparently the personal animosity allows some people to defend the
Sat Sep 30, 2017, 03:19 AM
Sep 2017

racist and misogynistic bullies attacking someone they don't like. Gotta love how "being a victim" is somehow distorted.

yeah, she's strong as hell, that doesn't make her any less the victim of vicious attacks by bullies who were unleashed by a bitter, nasty, hateful woman who couldn't deal with a black woman speaking about her without inserting her condescending self into the conversation and tacitly approving what she knew would follow. We've seen how Susan deals with women of color.

Ninsianna

(1,349 posts)
459. The one that was telling people that Trump would "bring on the revolution" without
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 12:21 AM
Oct 2017

any idea or care that people die in revolutions, usually the ones who do not have the privilege that people like Sarandon do.

Bitterness and nastiness is what causes someone to be that callous, and who so casually encourage the harassment on their behalf.

She knows what she unleashed, knew it while she was doing it, and stays silent, watching with glee as the racists attack.

Ninsianna

(1,349 posts)
144. She didn't send Sarandon anything. Sarandon decided to step in
Fri Sep 29, 2017, 12:58 AM
Sep 2017

into a discussion that she was not included in, thereby signalling her followers to attack her on the nastiest, misogynistic, racial terms.

She was having a conversation with her followers on a thread that Sarandon was not included in, about the truly moronic celebrity who was giddily telling gullible fools that the parties were equivalent, and that it would be wonderful if Trump was elected because it would "bring on the revolution". A sentiment that deserves scorn and a speaker, who was ensconced in her privilege, status and wealth, that earned it honestly.

Said privileged white lady condesecended to accept an apology that was not actually offered, and in doing so exposed someone who is just an average woman, to the harassment and abuse of her followers. Something she was well aware would occur. The tweets her minions unleashed show exactly how cyberbullying happens, and yes, the target of this venom, who is not a celebrity, not a rich, entitled, and awfully bitter white lady who spread a whole lot of propaganda with her status and encouraged a Stein voter that gave us Trump is indeed a victim.

She's also a fellow DUer, so that's a pretty callous disregard for the safety of one of our community. Who did not do what you falsely claim.

Sarandon stuck her entitled nose into a thread that didn't include her and which did express what many Americans feel about about her. She and her minions, as well as the minions of the other equally repulsive public figure who unleashed her minions to attack another woman (and it's always women who they attack, isn't it?) did the same.

Seems to be habit with these people who cheered on a deadly incompetent idiot, encouraged people to stay at home, or vote for the Putin endorsed candidates, and told people that voting Trump would be a good thing.

While we're sitting here watching people die, dealing with the shitshow that affects us all, but not her own entitled self, the sentiment Bravenak expressed is echoed by millions. Abusing her with racist, misogynistic attacks questioning her mental health, really speaks loudly about those who attack her and those who echo rape culture by stating that "she got what she deserved".

So yeah, she was a victim, she's not just weak enough to sit back and take it. And Sarandon and her minions and anyone who defends this crap certainly can take Bravenak's advice.

 

Kentonio

(4,377 posts)
253. Ah right, so it's about not bullying women?
Fri Sep 29, 2017, 02:01 PM
Sep 2017

So posting a picture of a woman's face with 'Fuck You!' written over it isn't classed as bullying because hey it's Susan Sarandon and apparently that means it doesn't count?

And spare me the victim status crap for Bravenak, she's a strong, opinionated woman who has absolutely no issues with throwing gasoline on the debate fires and jumping in for a bare knuckle fight. She did it here non-stop during the primaries, and despite me seriously disagreeing with a lot of her opinions and her methods of airing them, I always respected her strength and passion. The last damn thing she is is a victim.

all american girl

(1,788 posts)
303. Well, SS is not a victim here she was the bully.
Fri Sep 29, 2017, 07:58 PM
Sep 2017

There are many, many of us who don't forgive her for making the "joke" that she wasn't a "vagina voter" because she was voting for bernie...I was so angry I was seeing red every single time I heard it. I'm a woman and I did my research, listen to the candidates and then made my decision on who I was supporting. She took all of our hard work and made us into a joke for her pleasure and the pleasure of bernie supporters. So yeah, FUCK her. I don't care about her stupid feelings and bravenak was not out of line to express what a lot of us feel.

 

Kentonio

(4,377 posts)
333. Either bullying women is ok or it's not ok
Sat Sep 30, 2017, 12:31 AM
Sep 2017

You can't just decide that it's ok in one case because you don't like or agree with the woman in question. I don't agree with a lot of what Sarandon has come out with either, but some of the pure hate thrown at her is way beyond acceptable behavior. We're supposed to be better people than that.

all american girl

(1,788 posts)
347. Bravenak made a meme expressing her views of SS
Sat Sep 30, 2017, 07:44 AM
Sep 2017

she didn't @ SS...it was made for braves followers...SS made a passive aggressive move when she responded to it, and hey, that's a serious whatevs...but it was SS followers that then decided that it was cool to go after brave in sexist and racist ways. The meme that Brave created wasn't sexist or racist. She didn't use ugly altered pics of SS to make her point (like shit we see of Hillary)...And yes, there is a lot of hate out there for her. She used her voice, and being famous gives her a louder one than most, to insult women voters, and then when her candidate lost said that Hillary was just as bad as Trump...also stating that it would be OK if Trump won because that would bring the revolution on faster...not caring about all the people who would be in the cross fire, as we are seeing now.

In my opinion, there was nothing wrong with people disagreeing with brave, but when they went into racist and sexist bullshit, that was bullying. It's been days and it's still going on. This is the shit that women, and Hillary voters have been complaining about for over 2 years...now people are standing up and taking receipts about bullying behavior. You may think that brave went over the line by making that meme, but the people who went over the line and need to be called out, they are the people who think it's OK to try and silence women and WOC for expressing there opinion. If brave truly wanted to bully her, she would have @ her and have her thousands and thousands of followers (which she doesn't have anywhere near as many as SS) go after her. SS punched down. I also have the same opinion as Brave...Fuck you is how I feel about her..SS knew exactly what she was doing and probably likes the results. I'm seeing a lot of black women on twitter pissed at SS...so I'm, again, going to listen to black women because they know.

Ninsianna

(1,349 posts)
338. Ah, right, the bullying of Bravenak is somehow not about the bullying of women.
Sat Sep 30, 2017, 01:15 AM
Sep 2017

Sorry but defending the racist harassment as you've chosen to do, is a poor choice for anyone claiming to be a progressive.

A member of this board is being attacked by an army of racist, sexist bullies, unleashed by a bitter, vindictive hateful woman who encouraged morons to vote trump, and that's fine?

Spare me the victim status for Susan Sarandon, and her army of hateful idiots engaging in misogynistic, racist idiocy.

There is no excuse for defending this crap, or lying about it, or stating "she asked for it".

So if it's someone you disagree with here, it's just fine when that level of hate is spewed upon them by some rich white celebrity who launched her army of haters upon her?

Got it, only victim here is the bully with the platform, the power and the army of haters she sent to attack someone you didn't like.

Excellent stance, so progressive. Take a look at the shit being thrown at her and examine what you're saying.

 

Kentonio

(4,377 posts)
340. Ah right, so disagreement means I'm a racist.
Sat Sep 30, 2017, 01:38 AM
Sep 2017

Got it. Thanks for the chat, it's been informative.

Ninsianna

(1,349 posts)
341. Defending racist and misogynistic bullies is what you're doing.
Sat Sep 30, 2017, 03:14 AM
Sep 2017

Sorry if you chose to distort what I said to deny what's going on. Defending bullies engaging in racism is not a nice thing to do, glad I could educate you.

 

Kentonio

(4,377 posts)
365. You're doing a gross disservice to racial equality
Sat Sep 30, 2017, 12:08 PM
Sep 2017

With your frankly disgusting use of groundless and pathetic accusations of racism to shut down anyone who disagrees with you. According to you, if I think it's not ok for people to post pictures of a woman's face with 'Fuck you!' written over it, I'm somehow the one defending racist and mysogynistic bullies.

I'll be putting you on ignore now, because I have absolutely no interest in reading any more of your childish and offensive nonsense.

Ninsianna

(1,349 posts)
409. This is the exact attack that people who get called out defending racists engage in
Sat Sep 30, 2017, 07:41 PM
Sep 2017

projection of what truly is disgusting, to pretend that they're not the ones trying to shut down those who point out their errors and their poor choices to ignore the actual racism they're fine with because the target is someone they admit they don't like.

It's weird, how instead of actually apprehending my position, the reflex is to attribute things you wish I had said, but didn't.

The defense of racists and misogynists who attack a fellow DU member is indeed disgusting, but those who cheer on bullies do get upset when they're exposed for what they're doing.

Childish and offensive defenses of racist misogyny will always be called out, but it's okay ignore what I've said, or what anyone else has said because silencing women is what racist misogynists do, after distorting our voices, ignoring them of course.

Thanks for demonstrating how accurate and true my point was, with the deliberate distortion. I look forward to a peaceful experience here, with out the childish lies, the silliness and the projection that has been a pattern.

Bye!

Ninsianna

(1,349 posts)
407. Well, actually, that's not true.
Sat Sep 30, 2017, 07:34 PM
Sep 2017

Sarandon did. Bravenak was expressing her opinion, and adding to some meme she had made and left her highness, Sarandon off of. Which is her right.

Sarandon decided to step in and make a condescending remark, which provoked her minions to engage is some frothy racist and misogynistic harassment.

It's both unfair and inaccurate to claim that someone expressing her anger at public figures who made themselves central in a political drama and said some dumb things, "started" something, when that was the action of Sarandon herself, and the dramatic bots who seem to enjoy attacking women, especially women of color who dare to speak out .

She's not the one thriving on drama, that's Sarandon and her hordes, some deeply hoodwinked, some fake, some shills, some bots, and most raving lunatics who are frothily demonstrating that Brave and other critics are correct about what they perceive.

Ms. Toad

(33,974 posts)
441. That's a hell of a twist on reality.
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 01:09 PM
Oct 2017

Bravenak created a meme "apologizing" to sarandon for not telling her to fuck off earlier. It contained 9 images of sarandon with some variation of fuck you across them. Granted, she did not specifically tag sarandon in the tweet - but she did not "omit" her from it, any more than the high school bullies I encountered omitted me from the distribution of hurtful memes they created and circulated about me. When you broadcast something indiscriminately to the entire school (in my instance) or to the world (with Twitter) you are not omitting anyone, nor is it butting in to a conversation for the target to respond to a conversation you initiated with the broad audience. No one, even celebrities is obligated to remain silent in the face of vulgar attacks.

Bravenak was acting like a bully. I vividly remember the sting of cruel messages circulated to my classmates that ultimately, as they were intended to do, reached my desk. Sarandon responded with far more restraint than I did.

That is not to say that Sarandon did not invite criticism; but that does not turn her measured response into harassment, nor does it turn the response of the friends of the target of bravenak's bullying behavior into harassment.

Demsrule86

(68,440 posts)
355. Saradon is a boil upon the arse of humanity. She is an unrepentant Trump supporter...when she
Sat Sep 30, 2017, 08:30 AM
Sep 2017

encouraged others to vote for Stein...to bring about her shiny (I need meaning for my useless empty sad but really rich life) revolution, she lost all credibility. You are Scum...Susan. (Go get her Bravenek...miss you). Saradaon you are a spoiled brat who views those who suffer because of Trump's election including but not limited to those who die in Puerto Rico are on your head... you are a scumsucking entitled selfish spoiled waste of human life with no compassion and even few brains.

all american girl

(1,788 posts)
360. +1
Sat Sep 30, 2017, 10:13 AM
Sep 2017


I'm not understanding all this "ooo, Brave is being mean to SS" shit. SS is an awful woman and I hold her partially responsible for the crap show we are living....By the way, I wonder what she's done for her "revolution" because I haven't seen anything, except her trying to take credit for some of the resistance....
 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
191. If someone puts out a "fuck you" meme with any other person's name
Fri Sep 29, 2017, 08:34 AM
Sep 2017

I would think the other person has a right to respond. Doesn't matter if it was sent directly or not.

I'm no fan of Sarandon, but bravenak brought this on herself.

Something sad about a person who sits around making "fuck you" memes about others.

What a negative way to spend one's time.

betsuni

(25,335 posts)
193. Not if the person deserves it, like Sarandon and Trump and Republicans.
Fri Sep 29, 2017, 08:53 AM
Sep 2017

People who trash Democrats and great people like bravenak are negatively spending their time and are sad and stupid.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
207. We know she deserves it, but obviously she wouldn't think so.
Fri Sep 29, 2017, 09:29 AM
Sep 2017

Hence, the response.

If one wants to insult others on the internet, one should not be surprised if a backlash occurs.

JHan

(10,173 posts)
278. lol civility is the concern now?
Fri Sep 29, 2017, 05:09 PM
Sep 2017

Lol lol lol lol ...





Give me a break. Civility died EONS ago. And re 2016, it didn't die because of Bravenak.

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
439. It seems they think the white lady...
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 01:03 PM
Oct 2017

should sit down and shut up when the black lady flings shit at her. I'm no fan of Sarandon, but she had every right to respond. I'm definitely no fan of Bravenak or her MO of shit-stirring, then crying foul when she gets pushback. The victim schtick got old fast...

all american girl

(1,788 posts)
149. Se didn't send it to her...but SS thought it was cool to send her
Fri Sep 29, 2017, 01:17 AM
Sep 2017

bullies out. What's funny she has done others, this is the one that brought all the bullies, and boy, they are quite a racist, sexist bunch.

Mike Nelson

(9,933 posts)
11. Interesing...
Thu Sep 28, 2017, 07:33 PM
Sep 2017

...how she draws out the racism in Sarandon's followers. I think they will like Trump's new tax plans.

all american girl

(1,788 posts)
38. I was following that and wow...some real racists out there
Thu Sep 28, 2017, 08:30 PM
Sep 2017

I do find it funny that they hate on a black woman and defend a 1% white woman, like she has no power. I'm still so pissed at SS funny "joke" about vagina votes...not forgiving that sexist shit.

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
16. She got booted
Thu Sep 28, 2017, 07:44 PM
Sep 2017

Last edited Thu Sep 28, 2017, 09:00 PM - Edit history (1)

For anti-Semitic comments.

The assholery during the primary was on both sides.

Also: Susan Sarandon has a special place in Hell.

On edit: she appears to have just gone primarily to Twitter, and has a DU account. I'll read what she writes in either place. I still agree that "Fuck You" is the only proper comment to be made to Susan Sarandon.

Bleacher Creature

(11,244 posts)
18. Wow, I had a feeling it wasn't by choice, but I had no idea why.
Thu Sep 28, 2017, 07:48 PM
Sep 2017

That's a complete game changer for me.

Thanks for letting me know.

 

Amimnoch

(4,558 posts)
24. Looks like she's FFR, not actually banned.
Thu Sep 28, 2017, 08:00 PM
Sep 2017

I'm curious too. I'd just figured the lack of posting was due to all of the other effort she puts into social media.

kcr

(15,313 posts)
160. Article in the OP talks about another victim who had the same accusation slung at her.
Fri Sep 29, 2017, 01:59 AM
Sep 2017

Bullies stalk and harass and then take the responses and twist them out of context. It was obvious that was what was happening here. DU was a real shit show during the election.

brush

(53,685 posts)
33. Well document it here now. Don't make that kind of accusation without proof.
Thu Sep 28, 2017, 08:15 PM
Sep 2017

This can't be taken lightly.

I was accused of anti-Semitism here myself just last week for criticizing Netanyahu for trying to goad us into attacking Iran, as if that's the same thing as being anit-Semitic.

R B Garr

(16,947 posts)
57. I remember that line of "attack' being trumped up because Hillary is a woman.
Thu Sep 28, 2017, 08:59 PM
Sep 2017

An equalizer of -isms, so to speak. It wasn't really a genuine event, so I can see what you're saying.

 

melman

(7,681 posts)
35. This has been discussed here many times
Thu Sep 28, 2017, 08:22 PM
Sep 2017

in many threads including a 500-post "apology" thread. I find it kind of hard to believe you missed all that.

pnwmom

(108,950 posts)
49. You made the assertion; it's up to you to back it up. I'm not going on any wild goose chases. nt
Thu Sep 28, 2017, 08:50 PM
Sep 2017
 

melman

(7,681 posts)
64. "made the assertion"
Thu Sep 28, 2017, 09:04 PM
Sep 2017

No. I referenced something that is very well known here.

Known to everyone I would think. In the unlikely event that someone doesn't get the reference they can look it up.

pnwmom

(108,950 posts)
74. You made the assertion: "Her anti-semitism is well documented."
Thu Sep 28, 2017, 09:27 PM
Sep 2017

And then you refused to back it up -- for some reason known only to you.

sheshe2

(83,545 posts)
404. Well documented they say?
Sat Sep 30, 2017, 07:29 PM
Sep 2017

There must be hundreds of posts then. I don't remember one...well her apology, yet there are more???

Response to progressoid (Reply #167)

 

melman

(7,681 posts)
283. Right
Fri Sep 29, 2017, 06:06 PM
Sep 2017

The apology post was deleted so that means it was never there.


Even though there are hundreds of posts in that thread addressing it. Including the first reply which says 'thanks for your apology"


But the actual first post was deleted so it must not have ever happened.

George II

(67,782 posts)
286. No one knows for sure what it said - anyone have a screen shot?
Fri Sep 29, 2017, 06:10 PM
Sep 2017

Aside from that, didn't you say it was "well documented"?

progressoid

(49,896 posts)
320. Yep, those DUers accepting her apology mistakenly thought it was about her anti-Semitic comments.
Fri Sep 29, 2017, 10:52 PM
Sep 2017

Turns out that whole apology thread was about her misuse of the semi-colon.

Response to progressoid (Reply #320)

George II

(67,782 posts)
358. Curious, all of these posts talk about "anti-Semitism", yet no one can show us a single word....
Sat Sep 30, 2017, 09:53 AM
Sep 2017

....of anti-Semitism. Guess it isn't so well documented, huh?

George II

(67,782 posts)
367. Never happened. And it's only proven out by the fact that no one can post a single...
Sat Sep 30, 2017, 01:34 PM
Sep 2017

...."anti-Semitic" comment or quote.

Have a blessed day.

 

melman

(7,681 posts)
376. It's been posted many times
Sat Sep 30, 2017, 03:06 PM
Sep 2017

And linked to right in this very thread. Some just pretend not to have seen it.

George II

(67,782 posts)
385. On DU? This very thread? Really? I've read every post (all 300+)....
Sat Sep 30, 2017, 05:15 PM
Sep 2017

...I haven't seen anything anti-Semitic.

George II

(67,782 posts)
389. Funny thing, I say something doesn't exist, you say it does but can't point me to it.
Sat Sep 30, 2017, 05:26 PM
Sep 2017

I guess I'll drop out of this discussion and go to the Mystic Aquarium again.

 

melman

(7,681 posts)
390. Who says I can't?
Sat Sep 30, 2017, 05:30 PM
Sep 2017

I just know that there's no need because there isn't a single person here who hasn't seen it. Not one.

 

melman

(7,681 posts)
396. This is all very transparent
Sat Sep 30, 2017, 05:44 PM
Sep 2017

This whole routine here is quite...well... not exactly clever ...but it's something.

Points for effort I suppose, but unfortunately these techniques don't work on me. Sooo so sorry.

 

Jim Beard

(2,535 posts)
452. I have heard that Chess helps the mind block out unpleasant thoughts and is relaxing. It is a game I
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 02:22 PM
Oct 2017
 

melman

(7,681 posts)
78. Find one?
Thu Sep 28, 2017, 09:32 PM
Sep 2017

Why would I need to find one? I'm not the one claiming to know nothing about this. I'm all caught up, thanks. Don't need to read or find anything.

Anyway, there's a link in this very thread for those really interested and somehow unable to remember this infamous incident and/or do a search.


George II

(67,782 posts)
81. You're the one who made a characterization about a member here which may or may not be true....
Thu Sep 28, 2017, 09:36 PM
Sep 2017

....one would think it would behoove the person who made the assertion to show how that it is true, correct?

George II

(67,782 posts)
88. And it's not even true. I wonder if anyone here even knows what being "anti-Semitic" really is....
Thu Sep 28, 2017, 09:47 PM
Sep 2017

....much less spell it correctly.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
98. She made a single unfortunate statement, probably in anger. But that commenter is exaggerating
Thu Sep 28, 2017, 09:55 PM
Sep 2017

To say that "her antisemitism is well documented" is stretching the truth past the breaking point.

As George II indicated above, accusations of antisemitism were flying without any regard to reality. I am Jewish (and the son of a holocaust survivor) and I was accused of antisemitism for not supporting Bernie and for characterizing him as a snake oil salesman with a post of a video from one of my favorite movies "The Inspector General". The video is Yakov's elixer.

As I laughingly indicated to people at the time, besides the fact that I am Jewish, the Yakov in Yakov's elixer is not Jewish, they are Roma. And the film stars and is centered around one of my favorite actors of all time, Danny Kaye, who is Jewish and would not have participated in a film with any antisemitic depictions. In fact his role in Skokie was pretty groundbreaking, you should Google what that movie was about to see what I mean.

In any case, you have to take any antisemitism accusations by Bernie supporters against Hillary supporters with, if not a grain of salt, with at least deep suspicion.

One unfortunate statement is not "her antisemitism is well documented". I would have preferred if Bravenak had not said it, and it was right that she apologized, but many here who never have spoken up for Jews in any context other than this have used the issue as a political weapon rather than a fight against religiocentrism and bigotry.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
106. Nope, the only statement I remember was linked below by "Still One"
Thu Sep 28, 2017, 10:16 PM
Sep 2017
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=9648514

You will note that Still_One like me is Jewish. Most Jews here on DU forgave Bravenak when she apologized.

I find only non-Jews pushing the "antisemitism" label on her.
 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
109. Are we still discussing the antisemitism accusation or are you now throwing anything at her that
Thu Sep 28, 2017, 10:20 PM
Sep 2017

you can think of?

 

berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
110. Did you read it?
Thu Sep 28, 2017, 10:22 PM
Sep 2017

She was posting vile RWer shit. Her antisemitism was widely known, and not just here.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
113. On a scale of 1-10 in terms of antisemitic statements made toward me in my life
Thu Sep 28, 2017, 10:24 PM
Sep 2017

that would rate about a 0.9.

Does that make it OK? No. But it does not warrant what you are making it.

still_one

(92,029 posts)
352. For some reason, some are reposting the same reference I referred to, and referencing it as though
Sat Sep 30, 2017, 08:07 AM
Sep 2017

they were different events.

I think I even saw a comment in this thread with a link trying to infer that she is somehow associated with the Russians. That link does not show that at all.

I have not seen the repeated use of anti-Semitic remarks that is being alleged

As I said, there was an apology, which I believed to be sincere, and some accepted that apology, and some didn't.

There was a lot of ugliness going on in 2016, and the exchanges that took place between us left a mark, that will take a long time to heal.

It is obvious that DU is still being haunted by the ghosts of 2016.

.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
361. I'll send you a PM with my full thoughts but it's clear some still have it out for her and
Sat Sep 30, 2017, 10:24 AM
Sep 2017

are trying to magnify and invent anything they can to throw at her.

George II

(67,782 posts)
218. Well, if there was more than one, as I said to the other person who claimed....
Fri Sep 29, 2017, 09:58 AM
Sep 2017

...her anti-Semitism is "well documented", then it wouldn't be too difficult to find other examples, right?

What does that link have to do with this discussion. Are you hinting that Bravenak is a Russian plant?

 

berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
227. She wasn't just Banned from DU, she was banned from Kos
Fri Sep 29, 2017, 11:13 AM
Sep 2017

And if you get banned from multiple progressive sites, you are doing something very very wrong.

kcr

(15,313 posts)
269. The effect may be the same, but the implications aren't. It isn't the same.
Fri Sep 29, 2017, 04:03 PM
Sep 2017

Accounts are banned and shut off at DU. Hers wasn't. When people hear a poster is banned it implies something much different than being in review limbo.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
261. I find it troubling that she posted on that rightwing site.
Fri Sep 29, 2017, 03:33 PM
Sep 2017

I'd never even heard of it until I followed some of the links in this thread.

sheshe2

(83,545 posts)
410. I am confused at your response to McCoy.
Sat Sep 30, 2017, 07:44 PM
Sep 2017
berni_mccoy (20,266 posts)
227. She wasn't just Banned from DU, she was banned from Kos

And if you get banned from multiple progressive sites, you are doing something very very wrong.


KOS is a RW site now?

redgreenandblue

(2,088 posts)
172. She stated that she opposed Bernie "to repay the Jews in kind". She back-peddled later
Fri Sep 29, 2017, 04:32 AM
Sep 2017

and switched to just hating Bernie.

Her apology would have been credible if she had the decency to stop the smears against Bernie afterwards. Instead, we are expected to believe that she went from hating Bernie for being Jewish to just hating him for being Bernie within a week. How convenient...

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
192. You can have your opinion, Jews like me on DU have ours
Fri Sep 29, 2017, 08:52 AM
Sep 2017

People can decide which one of our views on antisemitism hold more weight.

redgreenandblue

(2,088 posts)
198. Right. Because you magically know my cultural identity and have polled "99% of Jewish DUers"
Fri Sep 29, 2017, 09:06 AM
Sep 2017

as you claimed below. Not.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
199. I can tell pretty easily by how you have politicized this. No one actually concerned
Fri Sep 29, 2017, 09:08 AM
Sep 2017

about antisemitism would do that.

EllieBC

(2,983 posts)
205. Does that forgiveness apply to other people who make bigoted comments?
Fri Sep 29, 2017, 09:27 AM
Sep 2017

Or just antisemitic comments?

Seems to be a lot of people make excuses for antisemitic comments or give people passes for making them.

I guess Jews don't get the same level protection as other groups.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
214. There was a poster who accused people
Fri Sep 29, 2017, 09:42 AM
Sep 2017

of homophobia for not agreeing with everything he said. Every ism had been thrown around sometime by someone.

murielm99

(30,708 posts)
136. So prove it.
Thu Sep 28, 2017, 11:24 PM
Sep 2017

Many DU members of color were alert stalked and silenced. She was a strong voice, so she was one of them.

I am not Jewish but I was accused of anti-Semitism by someone here, someone I now have on ignore.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
194. Whether she provides the details or not I believe her, it happened to me
Fri Sep 29, 2017, 08:54 AM
Sep 2017

And I provided details above.

murielm99

(30,708 posts)
330. All right.
Sat Sep 30, 2017, 12:26 AM
Sep 2017

I K&Red an OP that had an article critical of Bernie. Apparently, there was a word in the post, in Yiddish, that I did not know could be interpreted as a racial slur. I don't remember the word.

I stood by my recommendation of the article and the post. The same person accused me, in more than one post, of being anti-Semitic, and demanded that I rescind my recommendation. I refused to be bullied by this person, who has a history of bullying.

I would do it again. I don't speak Yiddish, but the article criticizing Bernie was valid.

I won't call out the person who has bullied me and others again and again on DU. I have her on ignore.

That is all I am going to say about this. Accept it or don't accept it. I became very tired of being followed and alert stalked by this person.

lapucelle

(18,166 posts)
83. That's a pretty serious charge to make
Thu Sep 28, 2017, 09:44 PM
Sep 2017

especially if one is "totally hazy on the details and...might be way off base".

brush

(53,685 posts)
31. Pls don't just believe an accusation like that with no documentation
Thu Sep 28, 2017, 08:12 PM
Sep 2017

I know Bravenak was continuously alert stalked here on DU.

I don't remember any anti-Semitism claims.

Susan Calvin

(1,645 posts)
85. It was real.
Thu Sep 28, 2017, 09:45 PM
Sep 2017

Posted elsewhere, apologized for here.

I chose to believe it was heat of the moment and a lesson was learned. Hope so.

If you're reading, hey brave.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
215. True. IMO it is disingenuous to
Fri Sep 29, 2017, 09:43 AM
Sep 2017

hang onto it forever and refuse to forgive it forever and keep using it against the person forever.

brush

(53,685 posts)
139. She wasn't continually offensive to many here. She was alert stalked here though...
Thu Sep 28, 2017, 11:56 PM
Sep 2017

and harassed offline even.

kcr

(15,313 posts)
176. Certified internet documentation. Wow!
Fri Sep 29, 2017, 04:52 AM
Sep 2017

Too bad folks who throw this accusation never show that in context. It makes it clear she's sarcastically referring to very horrible posts made on another site that is nothing like DU.

progressoid

(49,896 posts)
220. Sure.
Fri Sep 29, 2017, 10:20 AM
Sep 2017

It's that kind of "sarcasm" that got her banned from that other site. And DU.

Of course if it was sarcasm, why did she post this supposedly heartfelt apology? Even she didn't claim it was sarcasm.

kcr

(15,313 posts)
231. She didn't get banned from DU
Fri Sep 29, 2017, 11:45 AM
Sep 2017

And I don't know why you expect me to speak for someone else. But I know I probably would have done the same thing. I'm not the type of person who only apologizes if I feel I did something wrong because only my intentions matter and to hell with what anyone else thinks. I also apologize if something I did hurt another, even if it wasn't my intention.

progressoid

(49,896 posts)
233. I don't expect you to speak for her.
Fri Sep 29, 2017, 12:06 PM
Sep 2017

If she hadn't been 'flagged for review' (sorry, I mistakenly used the term 'banned'), she could speak for herself here. Unfortunately for her, DU has community standards. Luckily for her, on Twitter she can be as belligerent as she wants to and not have to apologize.

kcr

(15,313 posts)
268. Yep, she could. It's a shame she can't.
Fri Sep 29, 2017, 04:00 PM
Sep 2017

DU's jury system, particularly the one in place during the primaries before Skinner made some much needed changes, encourages bullying. It's fine if you're the kind of person who can brush it off. But it's too bad we have to lose good members because of it.

Response to progressoid (Reply #220)

RobinA

(9,884 posts)
120. I Figured
Thu Sep 28, 2017, 10:32 PM
Sep 2017

she slunk away after screaming at anyone worried that Trump might win the election for being a concern troll. Days before the election. And how did THAT work out?

brush

(53,685 posts)
30. Wait a minute. I don't remember any anti-Semitism from Bravenak. You'd better back that up...
Thu Sep 28, 2017, 08:09 PM
Sep 2017

with facts.

I know she was alert stalked heer repeatedly, and even offline.

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
32. Google it.
Thu Sep 28, 2017, 08:15 PM
Sep 2017

I just did, because I only half-remembered the drama. Turns out there's all that and more. I guess good people say stupid shit sometimes.

 

Amimnoch

(4,558 posts)
39. Saw some accusations on there, but no proof at all.
Thu Sep 28, 2017, 08:31 PM
Sep 2017

You know, it's generally good form to back up assertions you make yourself.
Pretty poor form to make the assertion, then tell the recipient to look up the evidence of your own assertion.

I definitely saw some strongly worded anti-Bernie postings there, but nothing that was anti-sematic. At least on the first 2 pages of results.

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
56. She is, I was incorrect about "booting"
Thu Sep 28, 2017, 08:58 PM
Sep 2017

And I read her tweets. Could not agree more about Susan Sarandon.

mcar

(42,256 posts)
92. She is FFR
Thu Sep 28, 2017, 09:49 PM
Sep 2017

Many DUers were accused of antisemitism in those days.

The vast majority of her posts were an attempt to express the AA POV during the primaries/general. It wasn't taken well by some. There was a good bit of what some might call alert stalking of AA DUers, some of it by those who mocked HRC voters as "vagina voters."

We lost a lot of valuable voices then.

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
125. I've been here since the beginning.
Thu Sep 28, 2017, 10:42 PM
Sep 2017

And I legitimately don't know what FFR means.

These primaries sucked. They sucked for everyone. They sucked worse than all the other primaries before. I just hope we all realize that, regardless of all shit talk, we come together before 2018.

Does anyone who's truly devoted, who truly LOVES, either Hillary or Bernie, think they give a shit about feelings? They're politicians, the both of them. Not angels, not demons. Just people like the rest of us with a job to do. Our hurt feelings our making their jobs more difficult.

/endrant

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
128. FFR is Flagged For Review meaning Unable to post for as long as the admins feel you deserve
Thu Sep 28, 2017, 10:53 PM
Sep 2017

You haven't been booted off the site and you could be reinstated at any time, but you have been difficult enough in terms of how the admins see it that you deserve a lengthy timeout.

joshcryer

(62,265 posts)
163. It is also an automated thing when you get a few hides in a row.
Fri Sep 29, 2017, 02:10 AM
Sep 2017

She told like 4-5 DUer's to "fuck off" and of course the jury hid her comments, so she was put into that status automatically. I doubt she's attempted to come back here given how the site handled the racists that were rampant at the time.

redgreenandblue

(2,088 posts)
175. She was flagged, given amnesty after people whined to the admins, then flagged again
Fri Sep 29, 2017, 04:44 AM
Sep 2017

under the new, anonymous system.

I find it to be very telling that, for the most part, the same people who claimed about unfair treatment by the jury system were booted again after being given a second chance and after the system was modified. Kind of lays the initial claims about unfair treatment to rest.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
259. And many of us continue to be alert stalked. Even though we are the recipients of the nasty
Fri Sep 29, 2017, 03:18 PM
Sep 2017

and ad-hominem posts.

Response to stevenleser (Reply #259)

Response to stevenleser (Reply #259)

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
270. I have had three posts that were hidden overturned by admins because the alerts were unfounded.
Fri Sep 29, 2017, 04:25 PM
Sep 2017

And that was just in the last two months.

That is alert stalking.

Response to stevenleser (Reply #270)

Ninsianna

(1,349 posts)
403. Nope. Apparently it's just 5 hidden posts and one becomes FFR
Sat Sep 30, 2017, 07:27 PM
Sep 2017

and then that's it. (As it was explained to me.)

That's the problem with alert stalkers, they easily silence people if they can manage to hide posts through swarming. It happens on twitter too.

Did you ever consider that people are upset because they're being alert stalked by many who choose to be hostile, abusive and uncivil simply because they disagree?

Even perfectly civil posts that they simply don't like, which don't violate any rules, are hidden, while blatant attacks are left up.

Says a little something.

Response to Ninsianna (Reply #403)

Ninsianna

(1,349 posts)
418. I was otherwise occupied during the primaries.
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 12:14 AM
Oct 2017

I think we're still seeing a great many people who are still dueling it out.

To the point that if they identify you as not one of them, they will bring on the hostility no matter what you're saying.

 

melman

(7,681 posts)
274. Okay
Fri Sep 29, 2017, 04:36 PM
Sep 2017

So what does that say about hides they don't overturn?

I mean if they are so willing to overturn unfair hides, then the ones that remain must have been deemed legitimate.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
438. Nope, that is not true. I believe Skinner has said as much
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 12:56 PM
Oct 2017

Skinner and EarlG seem to use a very rigid criteria in terms of what they will overturn. It has to be so completely clear that the post did not violate the rule that it is impossible by any standard to think that it did. No mitigating circumstances are allowed.

So if a hide was overturned, it was an egregious abuse of the alert system.

But that doesn’t mean a non-overturned hide was a legitimate hide.

Response to pintobean (Reply #273)

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
264. She was definitely alert staked, a lot of POC and feminists have been subjected to alert stalking
Fri Sep 29, 2017, 03:47 PM
Sep 2017

As well as those who unapologetically support Dems. The last 3-4 alerts I got were complete bullshit and the admins agreed. Always the same threads.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,104 posts)
290. Unconditional support of the Democratic Party can get you in big trouble around here
Fri Sep 29, 2017, 06:14 PM
Sep 2017

A wise person would never unconditionally support a political party

UNLESS

the times called for it. Which they do.

all american girl

(1,788 posts)
308. Yep she was, if you think hostile was supporting Hillary
Fri Sep 29, 2017, 08:16 PM
Sep 2017

in the same loud and in your face that bernie supporters were doing. The problem was, back in the day, just saying that Hillary was awesome could get you alerted on. It was so out of control...and wow, if you tried to push back on lies, well, that post was gone. Many of us backed down and hung out in the Hillary group...but not our queen Bravenak, she wouldn't be quiet and that pissed many off. I have to admit, there are many people here who gave me the confidence to push back during the bleak time...they were all so wonderful.

joshcryer

(62,265 posts)
161. She apologized for those comments.
Fri Sep 29, 2017, 02:09 AM
Sep 2017

It was following that the alert stalking and harassment that she blew up against other DUers that she got blocked. Every time she posted somewhere someone would pull those anti-Semitic screenshots to shut her down despite her apology. She then went on a tirade from the harassment and told DUers to fuck off repeatedly and got 4-5 hides in a row in quick order, this automatically put her in "Flagged for review" status.

Actually, she was almost permanently timed out for a long time and most of her hides were totally unjust alert stalking (people deliberately logging in late at night to serve on a jury to hide her posts).

Skinner even had to address it in the primaries, giving an amnesty to posters over their unjust hides: https://demu.gr/10135098