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Tue Sep 22, 2015, 12:45 AM

It's Al From's Democratic Party..the rest of us just live here. The takeover.

Matt Stoller in 2014 reviewed the new book by Al From, founder of the Democratic Leadership Council.

It’s Al From’s Democratic Party, we just live here.

So who is Al From?

Most people who consider themselves good Democrats don’t know the name Al From, though political insiders certainly do. He was never a cabinet member. He worked in the White House, but in the 1970s, for as a junior staffer for Jimmy Carter’s flailing campaign to stop inflation. He’s never written a famous tell-all book. He hasn’t ever held an elected office, his most high-profile role was as a manager of the domestic policy transition for the White House in 1992, which took just a few months. He doesn’t even have a graduate degree. From fits into that awkward space in American politics, of doer, organizer, activist, convener, a P.T. Barnum of wonks and hacks. Such are the vagaries of American political power, that those who are famous are not always those are the actual architects of power. Because From, a nice, genial, and idealistic business-friendly man, is the structural engineer behind today’s Democratic Party.

To give you a sense of how sprawling From’s legacy actually is, consider the following. Bill Clinton chaired the From’s organization, the Democratic Leadership Council (DLC) and used it as a platform to ascend to the Presidency in 1992. His wife Hillary is a DLC proponent. Al Gore and Joe Biden were DLCers. Barack Obama is quietly an adherent to the “New Democrat” philosophy crafted by From, so are most of the people in his cabinet, and the bulk of the Senate Democrats and House Democratic leaders. From 2007–2011, the New Democrats were the swing bloc in the U.S. House of Representatives, authoring legislation on bailouts and financial regulation of derivatives. And given how Democrats still revere Clinton, so are most Democratic voters, at this point. The DLC no longer exists, but has been folded into the Clinton’s mega-foundation, the Clinton Global Initiative, a convening point for the world’s global elite that wants to, or purports to want to, do good. In other words, it’s Al From’s Democratic Party, we just live here.


Some say that the Third Way is the new DLC.

Probably some truth in both.

An excerpt from Al From's book about how they got started.

Recruiting Bill Clinton

A little after four o’clock on the afternoon of April 6, 1989, I walked into the office of Governor Bill Clinton on the second floor of the Arkansas State Capitol in Little Rock.

“I’ve got a deal for you,” I told Clinton after a few minutes of political chitchat. “If you agree to become chairman of the DLC, we’ll pay for your travel around the country, we’ll work together on an agenda, and I think you’ll be president one day and we’ll both be important.” With that proposition, Clinton agreed to become chairman of the Democratic Leadership Council, and our partnership was born. With Clinton as its leader, the New Democrat movement that sprung from the DLC over the next decade would change the course of the Democratic Party in the United States and of progressive center-left parties around the world.

....Though Clinton came from a conservative state and knew how to communicate with the moderate and conservative voters Democrats needed to win back, he was also well-regarded among liberals—and so would help the DLC broaden its appeal in all but the most extreme-left parts of the party. Appealing to a broader spectrum of the Democratic Party was important for the DLC, and for me personally. Though the political shorthand had always referred to the DLC as moderate or conservative Democrats, our ideas were really about modernizing liberalism and defining a new progressive center for our party, not simply pushing it further to the right. Coming from the center-left of the party, I was tired of having the DLC labeled as conservative. I decided to call our think tank the Progressive Policy Institute because I thought it would be harder for reporters to label it as the “conservative Progressive Policy Institute.


From includes a memo he sent Clinton while urging him to take the chairmanship of the DLC.

Sam Nunn has taken his meeting with you in December and your statements to me in early January as a commitment that you would take the chairmanship, and is expecting to pass the gavel to you in New Orleans. But every signal I’ve gotten from you in the last month indicates you’re still up in the air. That ambivalence is a killer for us as we prepare for New Orleans.

I believe you are the right person for the DLC job—and the DLC job is the right job for you. We have the opportunity to redefine the Democratic Party during the next two years. If our efforts lead to a presidential candidacy—whether for you or someone else—we can take over the party, as well.


And history shows they DID take over the party.

At the national convention of a major political party, an ideologically rigid sectarian clique secures the ultimate triumph. It inserts two of its own as nominees for the Presidency and the Vice Presidency. Heavily financed by the most powerful corporations in the world, the group's leaders gather in a private club fifty-four floors above the convention hall, apart from the delegates of the party they had infiltrated. There, they carefully monitor the convention's acceptance of a platform the organization had drafted almost in its entirety. Then, with the ticket secured and with the policy course of the party set, they introduce a team of 100 shock troops to deploy across the country to lock up the party's grassroots.

This is not some fantastic political thriller starring Harrison Ford or Sharon Stone. This is the real-life version of Invasion of the Party Snatchers--with the Democratic Leadership Council (DLC) burrowing into the pod that is the Democratic Party.


There was an article in the Washington Post in 2003. Can't even find the original in the Wayback Machine, but I saved most of the article.

The 'D' in DLC Doesn't Stand for Dean (David Von Drehle, May 15, 2003, Washington Post)

More than 50 centrist Democrats, including Virginia Gov. Mark R. Warner, met here yesterday to plot strategy for the "New Democrat" movement. To help get the ball rolling they read a memo by Al From and Bruce Reed, the chairman and president of the Democratic Leadership Council. The memo dismissed Dean as an elitist liberal from the "McGovern-Mondale wing" of the party -- "the wing that lost 49 states in two elections, and transformed Democrats from a strong national party into a much weaker regional one."

"It is a shame that the DLC is trying to divide the party along these lines," said Dean spokesman Joe Trippi. "Governor Dean's record as a centrist on health care and balancing the budget speaks for itself."

As founder of the DLC, From has been pushing the Democratic Party to the right for nearly 20 years. He was in tall cotton, philosophically speaking, when an early leader of the DLC, Bill Clinton, was elected president in 1992. As Clinton's domestic policy guru, Reed pushed New Democrat ideas -- such as welfare reform -- that were often unpopular with party liberals.

"We are increasingly confident that President Bush can be beaten next year, but Dean is not the man to do it," Reed and From wrote. "Most Democrats aren't elitists who think they know better than everyone else."


When the Democrats through the DLC became beholden to big money and power, there was really no place left for the rest of us. The money and power folks did not need to stand for the lesser of us in the party. They did not have to take positions which would benefit us.

The power grab was described by one DLC member as the "intellectual leveraged buyout" of the party.

The Wise Geek says that a leveraged buyout is also known as a hostile takeover.

A leveraged buyout is a tactic through which control of a corporation is acquired by buying up a majority of their stock using borrowed money. It may also be referred to as a hostile takeover, a highly-leveraged transaction, or a bootstrap transaction. Once control is acquired, the company is often made private, so that the new owners have more leeway to do what they want with it. This may involve splitting up the corporation and selling the pieces of it for a high profit, or liquidating its assets and dissolving the corporation itself.












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Reply It's Al From's Democratic Party..the rest of us just live here. The takeover. (Original post)
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Response to madfloridian (Original post)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 12:48 AM

1. "ideologically rigid sectarian..."

 

Yup.

You see that among many who still, for some reason, consider themselves part of an "underground..."

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Response to madfloridian (Original post)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 01:00 AM

2. Best thing I've seen on DU in a long time.

Brilliant and informative.

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Response to leveymg (Reply #2)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 01:13 AM

4. .....

Thanks so much for those kind words.

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Response to madfloridian (Reply #4)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 09:30 PM

111. Excellent post!

Thanks so much for the information. Functioning minds can never have too much of that. This presidential election could be the one that breaks the election cycle merry-go-round of accepting and voting for the nominee based solely that it is 'their turn.' You've shed some very important light on what Sen. Sanders is up against. Keep the info coming and we'll spread the word!

Go, Bernie Go!

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Response to leveymg (Reply #2)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 05:07 AM

19. I concur; however, ... .

Madfloridian's posts are always a good read and well researched!

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Response to emsimon33 (Reply #19)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 07:21 AM

27. Agreed. Excellent post. Required reading

by all of us and then spread to friends and allies.

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Response to emsimon33 (Reply #19)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 09:19 AM

37. Thank you.

I get very discouraged sometimes at the tone around here lately. What angers me the most is that the move to the right as a takeover was planned every step of the way. They are not letting go easily.

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Response to madfloridian (Reply #37)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 10:26 AM

40. We knew something was wrong with our party for a long time. I remember encountering

some of those 'shock troops' early in the Bush years and could not believe they were democrats, as they claimed to be. They were all over Dem forums, bullying and personally attacking actual Dems, worse attacks btw, than I had experienced from the Right at the time.

So they used Dem forums to plant their 'seeds' for the 'New Democratic Party'. But people were not fooled, we knew the party had been infiltrated.

However it's good to have the actual background. We don't see so many deniarls that the Third Way actually exists anymore. Too much proof now to seriously deny it.

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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #40)

Wed Sep 23, 2015, 10:01 AM

116. What angers me so is that it was a planned takeover.

Not caring about the party's constituents, but about being financed well.

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Response to madfloridian (Reply #116)

Wed Sep 23, 2015, 10:35 AM

117. Yes, it apparently was cynically planned without even considering Democrats at all. And then

ATTACKING good democrats KNOWING they were right when the began to questions what was going on. No wonder they are comfortable with someone like David Brock, but obviously despise Left Democrats, both candidates AND voters.

There needs to be huge pushback against this takeover, and anyone who doesn't help do so, imo, is part of it from now on.

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Response to madfloridian (Reply #116)

Thu Sep 24, 2015, 09:10 PM

123. That *they* were financed well. That *they* had the $$ backers.

To "fight" Reagan and the vicious turn to the right, trickle down, war profiteering, and unregulated plunder, run TO THE RIGHT of Reagan, promise even fatter profits and all with a good conscience because lip service is paid to "social issues", so that lip service can be used to maximum advantage in identity politics.

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Response to madfloridian (Original post)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 01:11 AM

3. K & R. This information is very helpful for understanding what's happened in the last 20 years

and where we are now with the party as a whole and the DNC position in particular. Thanks for the OP.

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Response to appalachiablue (Reply #3)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 01:21 AM

5. We are about in the same place.

The same attitudes are showing again, and I think maybe a showdown of sorts is coming.

You can't do a hostile takeover and then tell the members they can have no say. It may work for a little while, but not forever.

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Response to madfloridian (Reply #5)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 02:06 AM

10. The discontent and differing philosphies of the two factions of the party are growing day by day.

Some resolution must be reached sooner than later to tone down the friction I hope. Right now DWS' obstinate attitude in the face of wide opposition to the debate restrictions is damaging relations and fueling the serious issue of the possibility of loosing the GE if matters don't change. I don't like what's going on and am concerned in many ways.

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Response to madfloridian (Reply #5)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 12:45 PM

62. The People, on both sides of the aisle, are disgusted with 'politics as usual.'



A hostile take over of our government by big business with the help of sell out politicians. I feel like I have taxation without representation. I have a choice of an economy that works only for the 1% that allows abortion & gay marriage, or an economy that works only for the 1% that doesn't allow those things. Either way, I'm looking at bread lines in my later years.

And I think it's fucking creepy that grown men are taking so much interest in women's reproductive lives. It's creepy & it's perverted. And I have friends who vote for them.

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Response to madfloridian (Original post)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 01:24 AM

6. Time for a new

 

infiltration.

Very interesting read.

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Response to artislife (Reply #6)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 01:53 AM

8. Past time.

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Response to artislife (Reply #6)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 10:29 AM

41. Exactly. Been thinking that for a long time, Dems have to infiltrate their own party and I think

it began during the last two midterms, mostly starting at the local levels.

Who on earth ever allowed a person like From to have so much power over our system? There has to have been a serious flaw in the systrem itself in order for this to be possible. Such flaws will have to be fixed to make sure it never happens again once the people take back control of their party.

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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #41)

Sat Sep 26, 2015, 01:22 PM

129. I don't think we knew because there was no internet back then.

At least not one available to the general public. We only knew what the media or our party chose to tell us.

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Response to madfloridian (Original post)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 01:45 AM

7. The Koch Brothers tie in

Lets not forget the Koch Brothers were a big contributor to the DLC.

But, here’s a key piece of information: the Kochs haven’t just given to right-wingers. Back in April of 2001, The American Prospect’s Bob Dreyfuss reported that the Kochs also funded the Democratic Leadership Council (DLC):

And for $25,000, 28 giant companies found their way onto the DLC’s executive council, including Aetna, AT&T;, American Airlines, AIG, BellSouth, Chevron, DuPont, Enron, IBM, Merck and Company, Microsoft, Philip Morris, Texaco, and Verizon Communications. Few, if any, of these corporations would be seen as leaning Democratic, of course, but here and there are some real surprises. One member of the DLC’s executive council is none other than Koch Industries, the privately held, Kansas-based oil company whose namesake family members are avatars of the far right, having helped to found archconservative institutions like the Cato Institute and Citizens for a Sound Economy. Not only that, but two Koch executives, Richard Fink and Robert P. Hall III, are listed as members of the board of trustees and the event committee, respectively–meaning that they gave significantly more than $25,000.

The DLC board of trustees is an elite body whose membership is reserved for major donors, and many of the trustees are financial wheeler-dealers who run investment companies and capital management firms–though senior executives from a handful of corporations, such as Koch, Aetna, and Coca-Cola, are included.


http://americablog.com/2010/08/koch-industries-gave-funding-to-the-dlc-and-served-on-its-executive-council.html
http://prospect.org/article/how-dlc-does-it

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Response to bl968 (Reply #7)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 06:44 AM

22. Let me underscore: It was not only Koch money. Two Koch employees sat on the board of the DLC.

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Response to merrily (Reply #22)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 02:47 PM

73. I wonder how many of the other DLC Board members were part of the Koch network.

Is there a list available of the attendees/donors at the annual Kochfests of political influence and legalized bribery? I bet there is quite a bit of overlap, and that's without even considering Alec.

I wonder who designed the strategy for the Koch boys. I don't think they came up with it out of the blue. Someone(s) planned it out and presented it to them.

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Response to hedda_foil (Reply #73)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 03:13 PM

74. Madfloridian. ,Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU for this fantastic post. You rock!

[Center][Font size="70" color="red"]THANK YOU!!!![/font][/center]

You just put it all together for me with the review of From's memoir. That piece is must read for sure. So are the older articles, of course, but I somehow missed the fact that From, the purifying turd™™, had produced a memoir.

Many of us naively thought, because the DLC went out of business when Obama came in, that perhaps we had won. Of course, that's due to the fact that they had transformed the party so the DemocratIc party, itself, was indistinguishable from the DLC.

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Response to hedda_foil (Reply #74)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 04:09 PM

84. Hi, hedda...I think the book came out just last year. Sounds like he owns our party.

And that angers me so much.

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Response to hedda_foil (Reply #73)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 03:56 PM

80. I don't know the answer to your question.

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Response to hedda_foil (Reply #73)

Sat Sep 26, 2015, 02:39 PM

130. hedda, I still have quotes from a post of yours in 2002...

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Response to madfloridian (Reply #130)

Sat Sep 26, 2015, 03:06 PM

131. That's amazing, madflo. I like what you did with it.

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Response to bl968 (Reply #7)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 07:33 PM

104. Yep, that's when the party started it's corruption addiction then with the Kochaine Koolaid!

 



The DLC vampires are now sucking the blood out of this party and the American people too in the process...



They think we won't notice, but we have the right glasses on!

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Response to madfloridian (Original post)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 02:05 AM

9. Excellent OP!

For me, this is the story of the rot at the heart of our party. It is playing out in real-time in the Sanders - Clinton primary, but it's far larger than just this one primary, it's the very essence of what, and who, our party actually works for. Corporate wolves in donkey clothing.

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Response to dreamnightwind (Reply #9)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 02:20 AM

12. Well said.

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Response to dreamnightwind (Reply #9)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 03:08 AM

15. +1 a huge bunch!

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Response to dreamnightwind (Reply #9)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 10:52 AM

47. Not just the rot of our party. The rot of our country. NAFTA,

welfare reform, tough on crime laws, the communications act, Glass-Steagall, for profit prisons, for profit healthcare plans, TPP, and a hell of a lot more.

Thank you Madflorida. Your time away was well spent in researching where we are at now.

How do we get the word out? This is not a small piece that can be posted on facebook and expect people to read it. I think one of the best ways to get this out there is to write a book that will hit the college campus and be discussed in classrooms. Also people like Ed Schultz and Thom Hartmann.

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Response to jwirr (Reply #47)

Fri Sep 25, 2015, 01:00 PM

124. Completely agree!

Your list is my list, right on, all of those things are enabled by DLC third-way types. When there's no opposing force from our party, the sole area of intersection between the parties, which is the place where things get done, is the area of corporate interest.

Are you a book writer? Seems like a good idea. There are probably good books already out there that chronicle this history that MF is bringing up, though I haven't read any. Writing one specifically to tell that tale could do a lot of good.

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Response to dreamnightwind (Reply #124)

Fri Sep 25, 2015, 01:14 PM

125. Thank you. I wish I was able to write good enough to do a

book.

But you are correct during the early bush reign a lot of really good books were being used on college campuses that told us what was happening. It woke a lot of people up and we need that again with what is going on now.

So here is a call to all those Bernie supporters who can write - give us some really good books that are simple to read regarding what is happening and Bernie's revolution.

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Response to madfloridian (Original post)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 02:19 AM

11. K & RRRR! Required reading for we on "The Professional Left"

I'll never forgive them for that label!

Excellent post! Thank you, madfloridian.

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Response to Duppers (Reply #11)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 06:47 AM

23. Fucking r****ds was even better. And the apology went to Palin, not the intended targets of the

obscenity. And then, we dutifully lined up again in 2012 to re-elect that administration.

But Hillary is no Obama. Hillary is not even Bubba.

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Response to Duppers (Reply #11)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 10:32 AM

42. They had lots of labels for the Left, and among their favorite attacks whenever anyone

told the truth was the Cass Sunstein suggestion 'Conspiracy Theorist', 'undermine them by calling them 'CTS'. Now we have to make sure they are exposed and all their talking points, for which I'm sure Koch money was used, against the Left, thrown back in their greedy, power hungry faces.

I believe the Third Way despises the Left far, far more than they despise the Right.

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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #42)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 12:52 PM

63. This: I believe the Third Way despises the Left far, far more than they despise the Right. --nt

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Response to CrispyQ (Reply #63)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 07:05 PM

100. There is evidence that the 3rd Way "Centrists" would rather give a Congressional seat

to a Republican, than to let a Pro-Union Democrat have a chance at winning it.

The Arkansas Democratic Primary of 2010 was a heart breaking eye opener for the Grass Roots and Organized LABOR. We were given a Look Behind the Curtain,
and it wasn't very pretty.

[font size=3]We did EVERYTHING right in Arkansas in 2010.
We did EXACTLY what the White House asked us to do to "give the President Progressives in Congress that would work with him."[/font]

We organized and supported Democratic Lt Governor Bill Halter, the Pro-LABOR/ Pro-Health Care challenger to DINO Obstructionist Blanche Lincoln's Senate seat.
Halter was:

* Polling BETTER against the Republicans in the General,

*was popular in Arkansas in his OWN right,

*had an Up & Running Political machine,

* had a track record of winning elections (Lt. Governor)

*Had the full backing of Organized LABOR and The Grass Roots activists

*was handing Blanche her Anti-LABOR ass

...and we were WINNING!

Guess what happened.

The White House stepped in at the last minute to save Blanche's failing primary campaign with an Oval Office Endorsement of The Wicked Witch that Wrecked the Obama Agenda who was actually campaigning at that time as the one who had killed the Public Option!!!

Adding insult to injury, the White House sent Bill Clinton back to Arkansas on a state-wide Campaign/Fund Raising Tour for Blanche,
focusing on the areas with high Black Populations, and bashing Organized LABOR and "Liberals" at every opportunity.

For those of us who had worked hard to give President Obama Progressive Democrats who would work with him, it was especially difficult to watch his smiling Oval Office Endorsement for DINO Blanche Lincoln which played 24/7 on Arkansas TV the week before the runoff Primary election.

White House steps in to rescue Lincoln’s Primary Campaign in Arkansas
"So what did the Democratic Party establishment do when a Senator who allegedly impedes their agenda faced a primary challenger who would be more supportive of that agenda? They engaged in full-scale efforts to support Blanche Lincoln.

* Bill Clinton traveled to Arkansas to urge loyal Democrats to vote for her, bashing liberal groups for good measure.

*Obama recorded an ad for Lincoln which, among other things, were used to tell African-American primary voters that they should vote for her because she works for their interests.

*The entire Party infrastructure lent its support and resources to Lincoln — a Senator who supposedly prevents Democrats from doing all sorts of Wonderful, Progressive Things which they so wish they could do but just don’t have the votes for.

<snip>

What happened in this race also gives the lie to the insufferable excuse we’ve been hearing for the last 18 months from countless Obama defenders: namely, if the Senate doesn’t have 60 votes to pass good legislation, it’s not Obama’s fault because he has no leverage over these conservative Senators. It was always obvious what an absurd joke that claim was; the very idea of The Impotent, Helpless President, presiding over a vast government and party apparatus, was laughable. But now, in light of Arkansas, nobody should ever be willing to utter that again with a straight face.

Back when Lincoln was threatening to filibuster health care if it included a public option, the White House could obviously have said to her: if you don’t support a public option, not only will we not support your re-election bid, but we’ll support a primary challenger against you. Obama’s support for Lincoln did not merely help; it was arguably decisive, as The Washington Post documented today:"

<much more>

http://www.salon.com/2010/06/10/lincoln_6/


After the White House and Party Leadership had spent a truck full of money torpedoing the Primary challenge of a Pro-LABOR Democrat for Lincoln's Senate seat, the Party support for Lincoln evaporated for the General Election, and as EVERYBODY had predicted, Lincoln lost badly giving that Senate seat to a Republican virtually uncontested in the General Election.

Don't you find it "interesting" that the Party Establishment and conservative Power Brokers would spend all that money in a Democratic Primary to make sure that their candidate won, and then leave Their Winner dangling without support in the General Election?

Many Grass Roots Activists and Pro-LABOR Democrats working for a better government concluded that the current Democratic Party Leadership preferred to GIVE this Senate Seat to a Big Business Republican rather than taking the risk that a Pro-LABOR Democrat might win it, and it was difficult to argue with them.
This was greatly reinforced by the Insults & Ridicule to LABOR & The Grass Roots from the White House after their Primary "victory" over Organized LABOR & the Grass Roots in the Arkansas Democratic Primary.

When the supporters of Pro-LABOR Lt Gov Bill Halter asked the White House WHY they had chosen to throw their full support behind Lincoln at the last minute, rescuing her failing campaign, the only answer was ridicule and insults.

Ed Schultz sums up my feeling perfectly in the following clip.
http://crooksandliars.com/heather/ed-schultz-if-it-wasnt-labor-barack-obama-

So what did the White House gain by Beating Down Labor and the Grass Roots in the Arkansas Democratic Primary?
We don't know.
The White House has never responded to our questions with an explanation, only insults.
To date, the White House has refused to answer our questions,
or issue an apology for their taunts and ridicule of Organized LABOR and the Grass Roots in the Arkansas Democratic Primary.

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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #42)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 12:54 PM

65. Yes, they really do. We threaten their "bipartisanship" dreams.

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Response to madfloridian (Reply #65)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 01:42 PM

70. Yes, all that 'compromising' and 'bi-partisanship' with people who are so extreme never

made sense the Left so they couldn't force us to go along and used every nasty epithet they could think of without giving themselves away totally, they THOUGHT, to lash out.

We should compile a list of their anti-Left talking points and send around Social Media so people KNOW who they are dealing with when they see these words and phrases.

Starting with 'I belong to the Reality Based Community' and the implication being 'and you Lefties don't.'

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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #42)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 07:27 PM

102. Of course they do. They can manipulate the Right but not the Far Left. Some are too easily

 

fooled. While they point an laugh at the Clown Car Republicons, the DLC/Third Way is picking their pockets.

So why do people calling themselves good Democrats support Clinton? Is it denial or they fall for the propaganda? "We will support same sex marriage if you let us steal all your wealth."

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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #42)

Sun Sep 27, 2015, 12:17 PM

133. Cass Sunstein always preached "harmony", be nice, don't go after war criminals...

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/2385

Netroots face bipartisan attacks on the rule of law.

"Politicians, legal experts and progressive activists grappled with Republican abuses of power at the third annual netroots convention on Friday, debating how an Obama Administration might restore the rule of law. Cass Sunstein, an adviser to Barack Obama from the University of Chicago Law School, cautioned against prosecuting criminal conduct from the current Administration. Prosecuting government officials risks a "cycle" of criminalizing public service, he argued, and Democrats should avoid replicating retributive efforts like the impeachment of President Clinton--or even the "slight appearance" of it. Update: Sunstein emailed to emphasize that he also said and believes that "egregious crimes should not be ignored."


Define "egregious"...Mr. Sunstein. Or ask someone like Don Siegelman.

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Response to Duppers (Reply #11)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 12:21 PM

60. Because we are not the professional politicians. We are just ordinary people.

The problem with our denocracy today is the professional propagandists and liars on the right who claim to be moderate.

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Response to JDPriestly (Reply #60)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 12:54 PM

64. I cringe whenever I hear someone call them conservatives.

They are anything but!

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Response to madfloridian (Original post)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 02:40 AM

13. It's gonna take a LONG time to purge the party of these people.

 

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Response to Spitfire of ATJ (Reply #13)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 03:08 AM

16. We better get started.

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Response to Enthusiast (Reply #16)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 10:23 AM

39. Yep...we have a lot of work to do!!!

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Response to Spitfire of ATJ (Reply #13)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 11:19 AM

53. I'm so bloody sick of the Clintons.

 

I wish they would both just retire and go away.

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Response to Spitfire of ATJ (Reply #13)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 11:49 AM

57. 2010 was a good start

We need to cut off the head of this insidious snake.

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Response to madfloridian (Original post)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 02:45 AM

14. K&R

Good read...an important read.

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Response to madfloridian (Original post)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 03:09 AM

17. Kicked and recommended to the Max!

Read it and read it again.

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Response to madfloridian (Original post)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 04:15 AM

18. Miserable conniving rat bastards that willingly sacrifice the rest of us. Fucking Elitists indeed!

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Response to madfloridian (Original post)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 05:30 AM

20. A must read for all Democrats. n/t

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Response to madfloridian (Original post)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 06:18 AM

21. Its interesting how they believed if Bill became President that they could reform the entire Party.

And they DID (with very few exceptions).

Around here we are constantly brow-beated with "WHAT could Bernie accomplish if he were elected President?" I'd say that Al From and Bill Clinton knew that the Presidency gave an individual the power to reform the overall Party. So, THAT'S what.

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Response to stillwaiting (Reply #21)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 06:51 AM

24. Well, in Congress, as an Indie, he managed to accomplish more than Hillary did as a Dem.

And not only a Dem, but a former First Lady Dem whose husband was still head of the Party and who had plenty of buddies and contacts and juice, in Congress, the DNC and elsewhere.

I mean, Sanders is running against Hillary, not everyone in the rest of the world. So comparing their two performances is the issue, not Sanders against some unspecified imaginary standard or some dead President.

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Response to merrily (Reply #24)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 06:53 AM

25. Good point. Those who say that Bernie didn't accomplish anything in Congress are 1 of 2 things. nt

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Response to stillwaiting (Reply #25)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 06:59 AM

26. Uninformed or lying?

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Response to merrily (Reply #24)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 11:01 AM

49. Yes, our focus must remain on getting Bernie elected because

that is the first step in fixing this mess. Maybe the DLC traitors will split off from the party and start calling themselves what they are - republicans.

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Response to jwirr (Reply #49)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 11:11 AM

50. Moderate Republicans from the 1980s, perhaps?

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Response to merrily (Reply #50)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 11:18 AM

52. Yes, Reagan Democrats!!!

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Response to jwirr (Reply #52)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 11:48 AM

56. Compassionate conservatives? Even though I want Bernie to be the nominee,

I would love to listen to Jeb! and Hillary debate.

In one of the videos about Presidential debates that leftcoastmountain posted, the statement is made that the 2000 Presidential debates were probably the "most agreeable" in the history of Presidential debates (the history of the televised debates, I assume). The the video shows clip after clip of Gore and Dimson agreeing with each other on important issue after important issue.

I love the total disconnects, too. In one breath, Poster A will say that Hillary is as liberal or even more liberal than Sanders and Obama is a liberal. In the next breath, the same poster will say that liberals are not electable. smh

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Response to stillwaiting (Reply #21)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 10:37 AM

43. I never accepted nor will, any brow beating from Third Wayers, we KNEW our party had been

infiltrated and their talking points and personal attacks on the Left totally gave them away. Watch how angry they become when people use the term 'Third Way'. They started out calling it a 'CT' but people were not about to let anyone deny the existence of this Right Wing group within our party, that is why they are now so desperate. Voters refused to elect their Third Way candidats in two mid terms now, mainly because contrary to their arrogant beliefs, the people are NOT stupid.

And now their plot to take over the party has been thoroughly exposed, their tactics don't work so well anymore.

No one should leave the party, though many have, it is the People's Party and we should make sure that if anyone leaves, it is those who plotted and succeeded in turning it into Republican Lite.

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Response to madfloridian (Original post)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 07:22 AM

28. Lies in the OP. There is no McGovern Mondale wing of any Party. Mondale was centrist.

Last edited Wed Sep 23, 2015, 02:23 AM - Edit history (1)

I recently started to say to an older woman, "They say Mondale lost because he was a liberal, but". That was as far as I got because she laughed right over me and said, "Mondale was not a liberal." Wiki describes him as centrist. His policies were centrist.

Those elections were not lost because either candidate was a liberals. Before McGovern was even nominated, Democrats knew whoever ran against Nixon was going to lose. Reagan was a phenom of a candidate; the Carter-Mondale administration was troubled. Anyway, it's neither 1972 nor 1980.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=post&forum=1002&pid=3950141 (woo me with science: It's not 1972 anymore.)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12778825 (demwing: This ain't 1972).

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12778872 ("What about Mondale?" indeed: Candidate Reagan)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12778873 ("What about Mondale?" indeed: 1976-1980)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12779277 ("What about Mondale?" indeed: Walter Mondale)

Oh, and Carter did not lose the election because Kennedy challenged him. Kennedy challenged Carter because Carter was going to lose the election. Had Kennedy won that primary, with the way that the Kennedys were revered then, the chances of a Democratic win would have been much greater.



The memes we are fed take the country right because that is what they are designed to do. And they are undemocratic, because the more say we the people have, the less the country will go right. Reject these plutocratic, undemocratic memes at every turn.



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Response to merrily (Reply #28)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 08:05 AM

31. Not my lies, their lies?

We have been fed a steady diet of BS and spin for years, using the words liberal or fringe. Or even elite used in a mocking way.

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Response to madfloridian (Reply #31)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 10:41 AM

46. No, no madfloridian. Not your lies. NEVER yours. In the material of others quoted in your OP.

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Response to merrily (Reply #46)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 02:09 PM

72. I knew you meant that...just kidding.

They have done so much of it they have to stop and think what they are all about.

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Response to merrily (Reply #28)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 05:51 PM

91. I think you have it backward:

 

The more say that "We the People" have, the more the country will go left.

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Response to Maedhros (Reply #91)

Wed Sep 23, 2015, 02:25 AM

115. Fixed. I meant to say the more say we the people have, the less the country will go right.

I must have typed the original post on Opposite Day.

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Response to madfloridian (Original post)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 07:47 AM

29. Great, great piece, mad!

"I was tired of having the DLC labeled as conservative. I decided to call our think tank the Progressive Policy Institute because I thought it would be harder for reporters to label it as the “conservative Progressive Policy Institute.”

And THAT is why when the Third Way Hillary supporters profess themselves to be "Progressive", we know they aren't. Not even close.

You cannot support:
Fracking
TPP
XL pipeline
Big Banks
Prisons for profits
Wall St. Over Main St.
Destruction of our education system
Citizens United
Corporations buying our government
Corporate tax loopholes

And call yourselves Progressive, because you're not!

Thanks for the great post! K & R!

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Response to in_cog_ni_to (Reply #29)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 10:40 AM

44. And don't forget, War for Profit and Imperialism.

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Response to in_cog_ni_to (Reply #29)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 08:28 PM

108. Your list is great...spot on.

You cannot support:
Fracking
TPP
XL pipeline
Big Banks
Prisons for profits
Wall St. Over Main St.
Destruction of our education system
Citizens United
Corporations buying our government
Corporate tax loopholes

And call yourselves Progressive, because you're not!


Amen to that.

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Response to madfloridian (Original post)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 07:50 AM

30. So, what I "felt" happening

all those years was true, after-all. Well, that Sucks!
Thank you for this post!

Edit: I know most everyone here has already watched this...but it just seems appropriate here again:

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Response to madfloridian (Original post)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 08:07 AM

32. Seems the guy thinks ''Liberal'' is a bad word.

Al's entry in SourceWatch details his affiliations, including his support for Charter Schools.

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Al_From

One thing that unites these DLC/Third Way types is their absolute disregard for unions. It may be more than the chintziness. Unions represent potentially organized opposition.

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Response to Octafish (Reply #32)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 08:20 AM

33. Yes, From wrote this piece about charter schools in 2000.

http://www.educationreport.org/2693

From argues that the public school system too often serves the interests of teachers and administrators at the expense of the students themselves. It is a "monopolistic" system that "offers a 'one-size-fits-hardly-anyone' model that strangles excellence and innovation" he says.

Characterizing charter schools as "oases of innovation," From writes, "The time has come to bring life to the rest of the desert-by introducing the same forces of choice and competition to every public school in America."

From also says Democrats should work to redefine the very notion of public education itself.

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Response to madfloridian (Reply #33)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 04:00 PM

82. Al From's charter school hogwash, then, sounds just like Jeb Bush's today.

Madfloridian, what you've posted is one of the most important pieces I have seen here lately, that describes EXACTLY how the DLC/Third Wayers/Blue Dogs/Triangulators infiltrated the Democratic Party, starting in the late 80s and have since so bastardized what our party once stood for, one that was for all the people. It was the party of lifting everyone up.

We are in for the mother of all battles to clean out this party and return it to The People. And it's one that we are not afraid to fight.

My hat is off to you, Madflo, for this very timely piece, in a time when all of us want and need to know "how we got here". Thank you.

Only by understanding that, can we do what's necessary to reclaim our party and to determine who we want to lead it.






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Response to seafan (Reply #82)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 04:07 PM

83. Wow seafan, coming from you that means a lot. Yes, it does sound like Jeb Bush.

Thanks for the kind words. You have contributed so much good stuff to DU that I am pleased at your compliment.

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Response to madfloridian (Reply #33)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 05:45 PM

90. Al of a piece.

Anti union. Anti public education. Anti democratic.

Al works with the "other side," the same people who brought us voodoo economics and worked to "eliminate" the Department of Education. The Captain of that Tyrannic wrote about his experiences.



And they go back to 1981 and the installation of Pruneface I where those who got smart, got along; and those who asked, WTF, got the ziggy at the ballot box or wherever.

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Response to Octafish (Reply #32)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 08:31 AM

34. Octafish, more on that education reform stuff...

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/12/recruiting-bill-clinton/281946/

Clinton loved to talk about ideas, and he had a striking ability to explain the most complicated concepts clearly.

He was not afraid to challenge old orthodoxies. In the early 1980s, long before I knew him, he and Hillary Clinton pushed cutting-edge education reforms, like pay for performance and public-school choice, against the opposition of the powerful Arkansas Education Association. Speaking about education in his Philadelphia speech, Clinton said the Democratic Party was “good at doing more. We are not so good at doing things differently, and doing them better, particularly when we have to attack the established ideas and forces which have been good to us and close to us. We are prone, I think, to programmatic solutions as against those which change structure, reassert basic values or make individual connections with children.”


So the reforms were in their mind early on....and they are happening live in real time today.

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Response to madfloridian (Reply #34)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 05:56 PM

92. Walton Foundation comes in here...

...for meaningful change. From unions. From education. From thinkers. From free people.



SOURCE: http://www.muckety.com/Alvin-From/26918.muckety

Waltons mean Jackson Stephens who means BCCI and we know what that spells.

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Response to Octafish (Reply #32)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 10:59 AM

48. Do you think that DLC/Third Way types laugh when unions endorse them?

I do.

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Response to stillwaiting (Reply #48)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 11:21 AM

55. I think you are right.

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Response to stillwaiting (Reply #48)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 06:03 PM

93. Al the Way to the Bank

As with Public Education, they "reformed" the anti-Bankster parts of the New Deal in the name of "deregulation for competitiveness." Thus, they repealed Glass-Steagall to create oases of innovation in "Wealth Management" such as the nice one at UBS, a unit headed by vice chairman ex-Sen. Phil Gramm, who hired both ex-President Bill Clinton and and ex-pretzeldent George w Bush.

http://financialservicesinc.ubs.com/revitalizingamerica/SenatorPhilGramm.html

Goes back to the ever increasing transfer of wealth from those who create it to those who loot it seemingly brought about by voodoo, but really just another legal scheme under Reaganomics 2015 Edition.

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Response to Octafish (Reply #32)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 11:12 AM

51. Very good point regarding Unions.

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Response to jwirr (Reply #51)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 03:59 PM

81. Unions need money also. I know teachers' AFT got millions from Gates for ed reform.

They endorsed Hillary early on against the wishes of many many members.

Many of them won't endorse the one who stands strongly with unions because it does not bring them needed funds.

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Response to madfloridian (Reply #81)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 05:26 PM

89. Yeah, I have three Union members in my family and they do

not want to move until their Union does. One is an iron worker and the other two are in health care.

I keep at them.

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Response to jwirr (Reply #51)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 06:20 PM

95. Solidarity brought down the Polish communist government.

And that directly led to tipping over that one bigger domino.

Here in the USA, who knows if a strike could topple Just-us.

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Response to Octafish (Reply #95)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 06:39 PM

97. I know that the Union is stronger than people think it is.

They are angry but a lot of us who are no longer in the Union or never have been in it are sharing their anger. Let us hope that they will be able to make some changes.

Solidarity.

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Response to madfloridian (Original post)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 08:54 AM

35. Awesome post!

I learned some things on my commute this morning.

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Response to FloriTexan (Reply #35)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 09:07 AM

36. Hi, glad to be informative.

Hope you had a good commute.

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Response to madfloridian (Original post)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 10:14 AM

38. Thank you for this!!

K&R And bookmarked!!

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Response to madfloridian (Original post)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 10:41 AM

45. Thank you, excellent post!

Very informative and concerning.
Great work madfloridian.

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Response to madfloridian (Original post)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 11:19 AM

54. essential reading, k&r

exposes the "party line over all" and "reagan's eleventh commandment" lines being bandied about. monied astroturf and crab grass to smother real change.

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Response to madfloridian (Original post)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 12:00 PM

58. Thank you for posting, madfloridian

I think some of us old timers take this info for granted and assume all Dems know about it. But for those just entering the realm of politics, this info can be quite eye-opening and enlightening.

K&R

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Response to madfloridian (Original post)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 12:14 PM

59. Thanks. K& R.

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Response to madfloridian (Original post)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 12:29 PM

61. The Centrists have "Third Way", and the Progressives have "MoveON"

How about a system where both groups make an argument and voters get to choose? I think there's a word for that.....

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #61)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 12:57 PM

66. We are fighting for that right now. Asking that all voices be heard on equal platforms...

Like debates.

Yes, there's a word for that. It's called Democracy.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #61)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 03:53 PM

77. MoveOn and The Third Way are not even comparable.

 

How about y'all centrist triangulators go start your own third party.

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Response to TM99 (Reply #77)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 04:27 PM

87. If they're not comparable, maybe you should start an advocacy group that is?

Of course, typing complaints in the blogosphere will be a lot easier....

And sorry, I won't be leaving the Party; the "real world" voters, candidates and elected officials don't seem to mind.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #87)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 05:01 PM

88. Please don't the insulting "real world" theme here. It's a put down.

And it's meant to anger those of us who think the party should stand for things that are important to most people.

It's hurts the party more than you realize because it implies that we don't don't experience reality.

Why do it?

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Response to madfloridian (Reply #88)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 06:44 PM

98. Because he agrees with it?

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Response to TM99 (Reply #77)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 08:29 PM

109. MoveOn is a part of the Democratic Party Organization Chart.

FAR , FAR from the DLC. Which never was on the chart. Just influential at the Club and the wine and cheese parties.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #61)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 06:20 PM

94. MoveOn has to do with us Progresive Activists? Exactly how?

A top down organization whose leadership can never be addressed, spoken to or met with, except by special invite, yet you consider them "progressive." ???

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Response to madfloridian (Original post)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 01:21 PM

67. 2001 Al From blamed Gore's loss on Bush painting him as liberal.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/liveonline/01/politics/freemedia012601_from.htm

washingtonpost.com: Good afternoon Mr. From and welcome. There is a lot of speculation out there on why former vice president Gore lost the election? What are your thoughts?

Al From: To begin, Vice President Gore won the popular vote. But regardless of how we feel about the election, the reality is that George Bush was elected according to our constitutional process. Our analysis shows that the Vice President won on most of the specific issues, but President Bush won on the big themes. Bush's ability to paint Gore as a big government liberal, which was reinforced by the Vice President's populist message, proved decisive. As a result, Gore ran poorly among a key group of swing voters - men who live in the suburbs, work in the new economy, and have moderate political views. In addition, the vice president did not run strongly enough among self identified moderate voters to win the election.


That premise was what they used from then on to keep anyone calling themselves liberals, or even acting like one....on the sidelines of the party.

Same thing happens now. There is an underlying contempt for those of us who question policies too loudly.

Even worse was that From and Company did nothing to help Gore during the recount. They left him to hang with the chads. And blamed him for acted too populist or liberal.

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Response to madfloridian (Reply #67)

Fri Sep 25, 2015, 01:22 PM

126. And he chose a VP candidate who eventually became a republican

 

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Response to arcane1 (Reply #126)

Fri Sep 25, 2015, 01:57 PM

128. Or to be perfectly honest, already acted like a Republican.

Lieberman that is. I remember we wondered why in the world he was chosen by Gore as VP. Sort of makes sense now.

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Response to madfloridian (Original post)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 01:28 PM

68. filed under: "stuff every Democrat should know" . . . . . . n/t

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Response to madfloridian (Original post)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 01:36 PM

69. Great Post!

The Democratic Party of FDR and JFK ended in 1992. Before that, people used to say Democrats would rather be right than president - and that was true. But not anymore. Now it's they'd rather move to the right and be president. And that's what "new" Democrats have been all about since 1992.

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Response to NonMetro (Reply #69)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 03:41 PM

75. "The Democratic Party of FDR and JFK ended in 1992."

True statement. Welcome to DU.

They have done one thing and called it another for way too long now.

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Response to madfloridian (Reply #75)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 03:53 PM

78. Thanks!

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Response to NonMetro (Reply #69)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 07:28 PM

103. In fairness, Carter, though a wonderful ex-prez, ushered in deregulation

That was the beginning of the end.
Reagan took it to warp speed, but it started under Carter.

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Response to madfloridian (Original post)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 02:03 PM

71. Clinton basically undid The New Deal, deceiving the majority of the Democratic Party. As Thom

Hartmann says, progressives must take over the Democratic Party from within.

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Response to madfloridian (Original post)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 03:44 PM

76. K & R !!!

 


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Response to madfloridian (Original post)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 03:55 PM

79. Sam Nunn: "Now we are viewed as the brains of the party."

After months of pondering, Clinton decided to run for reelection as governor and become chairman of the DLC. Nearly a year after our Little Rock meeting, at the DLC’s Annual Conference in New Orleans on March 24, 1990, Bill Clinton became the DLC’s fourth chairman. Calling Clinton a “rising star in three decades,” Sam Nunn passed him the gavel. Nunn quipped that when the DLC was created “we were viewed as a rump group. Now we’re viewed as the brains of the party. In just five years, we’ve moved from one end of the donkey to the other.”


How cute! From one end of the donkey to the other.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/12/recruiting-bill-clinton/281946/

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Response to madfloridian (Original post)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 04:11 PM

85. Al From wasn't really honest in his book about HOW the DCL got started.



THIS is how the DLC got started:
http://americablog.com/2010/08/koch-industries-gave-funding-to-the-dlc-and-served-on-its-executive-council.html

The Koch Brothers, along with other Mega-Rich Conservatives, BOUGHT their way into the Democratic Party Leadership through the DLC,
and the Old Dog did what he was told.

It is shocking, but revealing to realize that Koch Brothers Money helped get Bill Clinton elected.
However, it does explain some of Bill's behavior at reversing Democratic Party Policy,
and adopting Republican Policy.

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Response to bvar22 (Reply #85)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 04:13 PM

86. Al is tooting his own horn.

Money and power matter to some more than plain simple truth. Yes, it explains a lot.

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Response to bvar22 (Reply #85)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 06:31 PM

96. Thanks Bvar. it is always so worthwhile to see posts from

You and Madfloridian. And to have both of you in one topic is a real treat!

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Response to madfloridian (Original post)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 07:02 PM

99. I like Al From. He's a good man. Yes, he has corporatist ideals, but the Democratic Party probably

was better off with Clinton/Gore in the 1990's-2001. Which other Democrat could have beaten Bush? Tsongas? I don't think so. Clinton brought an era of peace and prosperity that this country have not seen in a long time. Not all Blue Dogs are bad people. Brad Henry, Phil Bredesen, Mike Beebe are "New Democrats, New Dogs", but you know what, if the Democratic Party wants to be a national party, it has to appeal in the South. Bernie Sanders will have a hard time in Southern battlegrounds like Virginia, Florida, North Carolina, Georgia. New Democrats and New Dogs could open a new wave of Southern Democratic progressive roots. You have to have a balance in the country. Democrats need to appeal to Southerners, and Bredesen, Henry, Beebe were governors in the 2000's that did that, but since they left office, we have not heard from them at all, especially Bredesen and Henry. I think that if DWS does not produce a good Democratic ground game in 2016, that Brad Henry, former Oklahoma governor, should be in contention to be the next chair of the DNC. He knows how to win in a red state!!! He did it in 2002. Democrats need to have a bold agenda that appeals to all 50 states. Southerners need to be included as well.

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Response to NYCButterfinger (Reply #99)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 08:19 PM

106. Never said they were bad people. I said they are in control of the party. That's wrong.

They hold tight reins on the party's mechanics and structure.

BTW how's that working out on appealing to Southerners? How did we lose both houses of congress?

They have no more right to control our party than I do.

Many of those you mention were more like Republicans than Democrats.

This post is not about Bernie Sanders. It is about the ones who grabbed hold of the party and refuse to let go.

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Response to madfloridian (Reply #106)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 10:05 PM

113. I understand. Southerners like Henry, Bredesen need to have bigger voices in the party.

They need to speak about what they did in Oklahoma and Tennessee to make life better for those residents. I would like to see them be the head of the DNC, if DWS leaves in 2017. The DLC has been in control of the Democratic Party since 1992, but the party is still center-left.

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Response to NYCButterfinger (Reply #99)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 08:19 PM

107. None of that allays this bogeyman for them

A recurring theme here is third-way Democrats equals Corporate Republicans and they are everywhere plotting to give the country to the Board of Directors of Sherman Adelson's company or WalMart.

It's a battle no amount of facts will transcend. Forget the fact that the DLC closed down in 2011.
Their agents are everywhere, and if you actually hold any kind of ownership position in a company on Wall Street or a bank, you are automatically suspect as complicit in the evil plan to revive the DLC into a zombie bent on becoming a right wing subtext of the republican party.

The DLC had its place in time and did give us the Clintons, a vibrant economy, a surplus and a peace dividend. But That was then.

So are the anti-DLC arguments.

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Response to Capn Sunshine (Reply #107)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 08:53 PM

110. There that's condescending tone again, Capn. I did not say any of those things.

I made my point well, that they decided the party was theirs for the taking....and they did. They may have shut down, but then that is addressed in the OP.

I learned a lot about messing with the PTB in 2003, 2004. Or maybe not. The same thing seems to be happening now, with different names on one side....same ones on the other.

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Response to Capn Sunshine (Reply #107)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 09:39 PM

112. We know full well what the DLC and the Third Way are all about. They are not here to help the 99%

 

are they? We are where we are in part, thanks to them. We have lost our democracy and they aren't concerned one bit.

"The DLC had its place in time and did give us the Clintons, a vibrant economy, a surplus and a peace dividend." Bullcrap. Clinton benefited from the ".com" market spike (part of the pyramid scheme market economy) that eventually crashed hurting millions of the 99%.

The DLC gave us the lose in 2000. Thanks a lot. And if they have their way, they will do the same in 2016. Most likely Clinton, if she steals the nomination, will lose just like Gore before her.

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Response to rhett o rick (Reply #112)

Wed Sep 23, 2015, 06:38 PM

118. I guess you missed the part where I mentioned they are done? Over? Closed?

There's no DLC, they closed up in 2011.

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Response to Capn Sunshine (Reply #118)

Wed Sep 23, 2015, 07:04 PM

119. And they all died along with their ideology. Really? nm

 

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Response to rhett o rick (Reply #119)

Wed Sep 23, 2015, 07:14 PM

120. I honestly thought From was Dead.

But there's certainly no cabal of DLCers loose on the planet. I think the only people that read From's crap are here at DU , because looking for bogeymen is always en vogue here.

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Response to Capn Sunshine (Reply #120)

Wed Sep 23, 2015, 11:10 PM

122. And you are certain their are no "bogymen" because everything is perfect in the Land of Status Quo.

 

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Response to NYCButterfinger (Reply #99)

Wed Sep 23, 2015, 08:37 PM

121. Tsongas was actually a lot more fiscally conservative than Clinton was.

Had he been elected president Reaganomics would have received far greater (false) validation.

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Response to madfloridian (Original post)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 07:14 PM

101. DURec

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Response to madfloridian (Original post)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 08:02 PM

105. Deep Thanks to Mad Floridian

I know whenever I see that Mad Floridian has posted something it is going to be important. Your post today is one for the ages.
In a nutshell you have shown evidence for what I always suspected, that our Democratic Party had been inflitrated by Right Wingers to
move it to the Right. The funding by the Walls and the Kochs says it all. I am spreading this far and wide. My 1930s relatives are spinning in their graves to hear that DLC talk today!

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Response to madfloridian (Original post)

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 10:41 PM

114. a must read

Crucial insights into political reality. Well done!

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Response to madfloridian (Original post)

Fri Sep 25, 2015, 01:24 PM

127. A kick and the 201st rec!

 

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Response to madfloridian (Original post)

Sat Sep 26, 2015, 03:43 PM

132. Yet, we're told we must vote for these kind of people because they have a (D) after their name. K&R

 

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Response to madfloridian (Original post)

Mon Mar 28, 2016, 09:35 AM

134. Kick

 

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Response to madfloridian (Original post)

Mon Apr 18, 2016, 06:09 PM

135. Giving this thread a kick for the evening crowd

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Response to madfloridian (Original post)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 08:24 PM

136. Thanks for this research!

I think it's crucial that progressives also do another "intellectual leveraged buyout" of the Democratic Party and take the party back from the DLC/Third-way/New-Democrat faction.

Can that be achieved? And if so, how?

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