Amerikkka Goddam

[kpete]

https://twitter.com/msiamastar/status/607769878821486592/photo/1

[erronis]

1. How to pack more than a million words into a picture.

So many sad stories are shown here. Thanks, kpete and Michael D'Antuono (http://artandresponse.com/).

[Spitfire of ATJ]

2. Cops need to see this....

They need to know how they're seen by the public.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

4. Sadly not enough of the public. Looking at polls and surveys,

White America and Black America have two different views, by and large. Too many White Americans have dismissed the experiences of Black Americans when many of them try to tell their stories.

I'm not sure what it's going to take to wake people up.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

8. A majority of Americans believe in equal justice...

They don't applaud this crap.

[Jackpine Radical]

11. I think that is true.

I also think many of us are in denial about what is really going on. It's just more comfortable inside those cocoons.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

13. Thank you. We need to stop denying the truth. It does us no good.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

14. There's also the attitude that ignoring it will make it go away....

This is usually said by people who believe if they say something it might happen. Like mentioning their car breaking down will cause it to break down and thinking it runs best past a junkyard out of fear they might pull in.

They want to pretend cops are ALWAYS the heroic good guys.

[Jackpine Radical]

17. Sometimes "ignoring it" is the only strategy people can come up with,

particularly if they feel helpless to change it. "Ignoring it" translates into a whole lot of defense mechanisms--suppression & repression, denial, dissociation, disengagement, etc., all very unhealthy for both the individual and the society.

The Corporate Government has been putting a lot of effort into teaching us that we are helpless, disempowering us. They don't want us organizing without their "help." Remember when FEMA shut down Occupy's very effective operations during Sandy, only to replace them with…nothing…?

[Spitfire of ATJ]

23. Occupy wasn't doing it right. It wasn't making a profit.

[Jackpine Radical]

26. It is unGodly to fail to make a profit.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

12. Look at the polls/surveys and convince me differently...

PEW Research:

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/11/26/ferguson-highlights-deep-divisions-between-blacks-and-whites-in-america/

Gallup:

http://www.gallup.com/poll/175088/gallup-review-black-white-attitudes-toward-police.aspx

Quinnipiac:

http://articles.courant.com/1999-05-07/news/9905070171_1_blacks-random-telephone-poll-whites

Time/Gallup:

http://time.com/3640226/gallup-poll-police-ferguson-ethics/

Newsweek:

http://www.newsweek.com/ferguson-profiling-police-courts-shooting-264744

National Institute of Justice:

http://www.nij.gov/topics/law-enforcement/legitimacy/pages/perceptions.aspx

New York Times:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/21/nyregion/64-of-new-yorkers-in-poll-say-police-favor-whites.html?_r=0


The racial divide in this country is stark.

As long as we continue to deny this truth, we will never progress.

Let's stop lying, please.

[Jackpine Radical]

19. I think it is the nature, not the existence, of the divide that is at question.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

29. What people want, what they get and what the believe are often different.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

22. I said a majority of Americans believe in equal justice and don't applaud this crap....

You just posted a bunch of links that back me up.

The Pew poll shows less that half of whites believe the cops treat blacks equally. The Gallup poll asked about "confidence in the police" and only 27% have a lot of confidence in the justice system.

As for the "Have you been treated badly in the last 30 days" all I have to say is, " " seriously? That's a really stupid question. As if a majority of the public has the cops in their face on a daily basis.

[clarice]

18. I agree 1000%. nt

[lark]

10. I'd like to see this on a large roadside board

and just sit back and wait for the reaction. In this redneck city, that's 50/50, don't think it would be pretty, but it would be informative.

[heaven05]

3. great photo

of the new kkk in amerikkka, 21st century....and the harassment and summary executions/murders are just getting worse..

[appalachiablue]

5. K & R. What a picture's worth-

[SoapBox]

6. Terrifying

America is a mess.

[L0oniX]

7. Ouch!

[99th_Monkey]

9. And in case you think the pic is hyperbole

"Because of intensifying civil strife over the recent killings of unarmed black men and boys, many Americans are wondering, “What’s wrong with our police?” Remarkably, one of the most compelling but unexplored explanations may rest with a FBI warning of October 2006, which reported that “White supremacist infiltration of law enforcement” represented a significant national threat."
http://thegrio.com/2015/05/12/fbi-white-supremacists-law-enforcement/

It's not.

[Buzz Clik]

16. Of course it's hyperbole. For the love of God.

Yeah, the composer is taking considerable artistic license, as artists often do, but let's not pretend this is live-action photo of a real event.

[99th_Monkey]

27. FBI says White Supremacists are infiltrating US Police bureaus

THIS ^ IS ^ NOT ^ HYPERBOLE

Did you even read the article ?

[Buzz Clik]

28. I see: 100% of all police forces are KKK, and they wear hoods to arrest children at gunpoint.

Do I have that right? That's what the article says, correct?

[99th_Monkey]

30. Nope - distorting truth much?

The freakiing article says exactly what it says, nothing more, nothing less ... and if you are
not alarmed or outraged by what it says, that says a lot about you and your moral compass,

[Buzz Clik]

31. Oh, so the picture WAS hyperbole. Now we've settled it. Thank you!

[99th_Monkey]

34. The pic was artistically portraying a very real & horrific, but mostly ignored, phenomenon

which you apparently are choosing to ignore as well.

Yes. we are done. Thanks for playing.

[Buzz Clik]

37. ..

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6799557

[LanternWaste]

48. No more and no less than the your unsupported allegation

"Do I have that right?"

No more and no less than the your unsupported allegation that the pictures implies all cops are racist. Sic of one,. half a dozen of the other-- and be sure to insert a distinction without a difference to better maintain two standards...

[Buzz Clik]

52. Fail.

Seriously, get better at this.

[Oktober]

33. It represents one extreme view...

... And attempts to be emotionally inflammatory if not accurate.

Sounds like hyperbole to me...

[99th_Monkey]

35. The FBI is expressing "one extreme view"?

What part of the FBI report do you mean?

Many cops are white supremacists, who just changed their costumes. <-- is this too "extreme" for you to bear?
Well then, you'd best take that up with the FBI.

[Oktober]

44. It might be relevent if this was 60 years ago...

... when the klan actually had some oomph.

Now they are just a sad little group of racists becoming ever more irrelevant to society.

The best thing that can happen to them is for folks like you to give them credit that they truly don't deserve.

[99th_Monkey]

46. So you really DO think the FBI was LYING in it's 2006 report??

I'm not a big fan of the FBI, and I don't alway believe everything they say,
but dude ... I do believe their 2006 report saying that the KKK type white
supremacists were infiltrating the police departments across the nation.

You keep skirting the issue, while blaming ME of giving the KKK "more credit
than they deserve'. <-- (FU on that one).

Here's the report again, titled "WHITE SUPREMACISTS INFILTRATION OF
LAW ENFORCEMENT" since you seem still oblivious to its existence:

http://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/402521/doc-26-white-supremacist-infiltration.pdf

Despite the report being heavily redacted, it's meaning could not be any plainer,
as the title says it all.

If you REALLY think the FBI just pulled this out of their ass, then SAY SO.
or STFU.

[Oktober]

47. I'm saying that they just aren't that significant...

You are giving them too much credit...

[99th_Monkey]

49. So tell me again

how is calling-out the fact that KKK has infiltrated our Police forces "giving them too much credit"?

Was/is the FBI "giving them too much credit"?

Do you actually feel that ignoring the fact that KKK is infiltrating police forces is the appropriate response?
Apparently so.

I whole-heartedly but respectfully disagree with you on that.

[JustAnotherGen]

54. I deal with the FBI in one element of my work

I trust them - I've seen them in action.

And I believe them.

We never know who is at the other end of the Internet . . . And what their motivation would be for denying the FBI's stats.

[LanternWaste]

50. Precisely how much credit should we then allow them?

"You are giving them too much credit..."

Precisely how much credit or concern should we then allow them, and on what objective measure are you basing that?

[Buzz Clik]

15. Ugh. This is pukish for many reasons.

Let me document the most cringeworthy aspects:

• I'm pretty sure Normal Rockwell would not particularly enjoy having his style being used to make this statement.
  
• The implication that all cops are KKK-style racists is fucking horrible
  
• The suggestion that the US is just a veneer for the old days of slavery is equally despicable

Like all of us here, I'm appalled at the continuing series of horrific incidents involving some police officers. But this? No, there are better ways of expressing our outrage and fixing the problem.

[clarice]

20. Buzz...i too was outraged by this picture.....

an for the same reasons you are. When I first saw it, I was trying to think of something to post that would display my
incredulity, then I read your post, and it summed it up perfectly. I may still post something though.

[cigsandcoffee]

40. Well said. n/t

[cwydro]

43. Good post.

Thank you.

[clarice]

21. Votes to hide this hideous post????/ Anyone? nt

[GoneOffShore]

24. Somebody did. Somebody got smacked.

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[chervilant]

25. Thank you.

I was Juror #7.

BTW, I think we are hurtling towards the abyss of violent revolution, and I sincerely hope that we, the vast numbers comprising the Hoi Polloi, stop drinking the kool-aid of the uber wealthy, and commit to having each others' backs. Racism and sexism are used by the corporate megalomaniacs to insure we remain divisive and derisive. Our younglings deserve better.

[kpete]

32. for the younglings then

let's have their backs

cooperation & collaboration
not intolerance & alienation



thanks for your message chervilant


peace, kp

[chervilant]

38. ...

[FlatBaroque]

41. Surviving VS evolving n/t

[Hutzpa]

36. What an eye opening photo

Thanks for posting this, man.

[cigsandcoffee]

39. I remember when police were referred to here as "first responders," and given a modicum...

...of respect for the sacrifices many had made, up to and including their lives.

Of course, that was like 10 years ago. Now they're all racist pigs in Klan hats, shooting black children.

[MrScorpio]

42. Yes, this is the truth about America, still today.

Even if some still refuse to acknowledge it.

[phil89]

51. Yeah Right

everywhere I go I see kkk who are also police officers pointing guns at small kids for no reason. Ridiculous hyperbole.

[Solly Mack]

45. K&R

[Rex]

53. Wow...some here sure are touchy about the truth! Very revealing thread.

K&R! The 0-7 hide! HAHAHA! Serves whoever right for being 'so upset'. As if we don't know why!