How about this???

[greytdemocrat]

We change the law to have two voting days.

Saturday & Sunday.

All early voting goes bye-bye.

Two days. I see nothing wrong with this
and if you can't get your ass in gear
with TWO days. Too bad.

What do you think??

[lame54]

1. Screw that...

Early voting stays

[greytdemocrat]

3. No.

Two days, on a weekend, is plenty.

[niyad]

14. Do you have any idea how many people work weekends? Why in the HELL do you want to

restrict voting? On what grounds? For what reason? Just the opposite of what should be happening.

[brush]

2. Doesn't make sense. We're all seeing the blocks-long lines for early voting so we can...

imagine how much longer the lines would be if all voting was crammed into two days.

No way should we get rid of early voting. That what republicans want.

[greytdemocrat]

5. It makes perfect sense.

Two days is plenty of time. You can even
make it two continuous days.

The point is, this option leaves no excuses.

[brush]

10. I don't agree. With early voting people have several days to vote at their convenience.

Again, you see the lines for early voting now. They'll be twenty or more times longer if everyone has to vote in two days.

And with covid out there, who needs that?

[greytdemocrat]

23. Who says?

Two days is plenty. If you want your vote to count
you will make the time. I always have for decades.

This is not something "at their convenience".

You either want to or you don't.

[brush]

26. You do you. Let other people vote how they want to.

Judging from all the responses on this OP, everyone disagrees with you.

[relayerbob]

30. INcorrect, this MUST be at everyone's convenience

If you don't like getting everyone's vote, then perhaps you are really rooting for another party

[Ms. Toad]

84. I waited in line for 3 hours to vote yesterday.

The shortest line I'm aware of in my county was 1 hour. Early voting has been going on since October 6 - 25 days in a row, solid 1-3 hour waits to vote from day 1.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

29. Obviously you've never done shift work.

What if you're a nurse, and you work 12 hour shifts. On Saturday and Sunday. How exactly is two days plenty of time for someone like that?

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

77. You also fail to understand that actual voting locations have been

cut back drastically in a lot of states, or parts of states. How many hours are you willing to stand in line? 2? 4? 12? In snow and freezing rain? Without shelter from the sun when it's 90 degrees? Oh, and at the risk of too much information, don't know about you but I can't go even 6 hours without needing to pee.

Right now, even with early voting that's a lot more than two days, I'm seeing reports of hours' long lines in far too many places. Just two days, and people will be in line for more than 24 hours in some places. Hope you figure out how to provide the necessary portapotties.

[elleng]

4. Aside from your proposed details,

STATES have the authority to determine terms of elections.

[greytdemocrat]

7. Things can change.

[niyad]

37. You know, that sounds rather threatening.

[Mariana]

62. Indeed they can.

And things have changed. Once upon a time we didn't have early voting or widely available mail-in voting. Now we do.

[notinkansas]

6. Hell no!

Exactly the opposite of what should be done. We need to make it easier for people to vote. Not harder.

[greytdemocrat]

9. Why is this harder?

It makes things very clear.

[niyad]

18. What, exactly, is your problem with early voting? With mail-in voting?

[greytdemocrat]

32. It makes people lazy.

Voting is what makes the US the US.

Is it too much to ask a citizen to make
the effort to follow pretty simple rules??

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

36. Again, what about those people who will be scheduled to work those two days?

Simple rules. Too bad for those who do shift work.

I really am tired of the voting proposals that have zero understanding that not everyone has an office job from 8am to 5pm and always has weekends and holidays off.

[Nexus2]

88. Or have, say, religious or other commitments on the weekend?

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

92. Thank you. I hadn't even thought about that.

Especially the religious commitments.

[niyad]

41. It makes people lazy?? Really? That statement is ridiculous, almost calvinistic.

It most certainly is not democratic.

[Tribetime]

52. Some people may be sick or in hospital or workibg

I think they need to make the voting early voting at least four weeks prior and have multiple locations and also include mail-in voting. Not everyone is able to make it to the polls and just 2 days I think of the elderly

[JI7]

58. We are lazy because we prefer to vote by mail after working all day including weekends ?

[Mariana]

63. Even if it were true that it makes people "lazy"

that wouldn't be a good reason to make it harder to vote.

[Tink41]

86. True Democrats

Rarely concern themselves with other people's laziness. That's suspect Republican words. You know there are always tip-offs, bad spelling, incorrect words (Dam vs Damn). And worrying about ones perceived motivation, among other things........

[notinkansas]

21. It makes things very short.

Not good.

[relayerbob]

25. The goal is to get votes placed and counted

Speed is not the issue, accuracy is

[greytdemocrat]

35. You're leaving something out.

Following the set, legal, rules.

[relayerbob]

40. No, you're trying to disenfranchise voters

No one said break rules. Make the rulews work so that as many people can vote as is physically possible.

Why do you oppose that?

[progree]

55. I don't think s/he will be opposing anything in this thread any more, so sad to say ...

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100214398218#post43

[relayerbob]

72. It would appear that post was removed

What generally did it say?

[Iggo]

79. Thing is, when you have a post removed in a thread, you can't post in that thread anymore.

Which is what I believe the person you replied to was getting at.

[relayerbob]

81. I understand

Thanks

[Captain Stern]

69. No, you're leaving something out.

People are following the set, legal, rules.

You just want them to follow different, set, legal, rules.

[world wide wally]

8. Every state should adopt the Colorado style of voting

Every registered voter gets mailed a ballot about 3 weeks before election day that they can return by mail or drop into one of hundreds of drop boxes around the state.
Fast, easy, and convenient. Not to mention fraud free for those "concerned" Republicans.

[LisaL]

11. A lot of people don't like voting by mail.

There also have been quite a few issues with mail in voting.

[world wide wally]

13. Then you just put it in a drop box

[LisaL]

15. What are you going to put in a drop box if your ballot never arrived?

NT

[marlakay]

34. You call county clerks office

And they get you one, we do same kind of voting in Oregon works great.

[niyad]

16. Not until that asshole dejoy.

[DanieRains]

17. Seattle Here Anything Other Than Vote By Mail With Emergency Polling

Silly.

Took 5 minutes to vote and 10 to drive it to drop box.

[relayerbob]

27. I don't agree with any single, no option, system

Vote by mail, vote in person, vote early and vote on election day and vote online all should be allowed, and each person use the process they are most comfortable with.

[LisaL]

12. How about NO?

NT

[greytdemocrat]

38. LOL

Thank you for your response.

[greenjar_01]

19. Dumb

[greytdemocrat]

39. Thank you! n/t

[Totally Tunsie]

20. There are many people for whom Saturday and Sunday are

regular work days. With our "progressive" world running on a 24/7 schedule, almost every profession - especially those dealing with the public - need daily coverage. For example: hospital personnel, grocery personnel, protective services, retail personnel, to name a few. The same argument can be made for selecting any two days...there's always someone for whom they won't be suitable. A wider range works better.

IMO, I like the combo in play now: mail-in ballots, Early Voting, and Election Day itself. This chaos that we are experiencing this year is a tRump manufacture, by design. He wants to make it as difficult, as inaccessible, as confusing, and as challengeable as he possibly can to bolster his concept that voting is fraudulent. Once he's gone and life resumes some normalcy, we won't be dealing with this nonsense, the system will work, and we will be able to vote with confidence again.

[greytdemocrat]

42. Tuesday is a regular work day for most.

But it is in the regular work week.

Pay a person to vote that day if they
can be shown to normally work that
day, (Sat-Sun)

I have no problem with that.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

80. Pay a person to vote?

What if they have the kind of job where they simply cannot be spared from the workplace? Again, the example of nurses comes readily to mind.

[zackymilly]

22. So you are too sick or in the hospital during that time and can't get ass in gear. Too bad? n/t

[relayerbob]

24. No. Make it two weeks

and set up on-line voting also. Make voting easier than ordering crap from Amazon or installing a new video game.

Your proposal makes it harder for many, many people, from weekend workers to elderly, ill or otherwise limited people. Basically, it helps disenfranchise the poor

[csziggy]

93. Two weeks, twenty four hours a day, Last week of October, first week of November

Absolute minimum for voting, longer would be better.

I remember when voting was only one day and restricted to certain polling places. The polling place for my precinct was a church down a dirt road. Not only did I hate having to go to a place of worship to vote, with all their religious icons all over the place, I hated the crowds.

But back then, you had to have a reason for getting an absentee ballot so I could not avoid going to that church if I was going to exercise my right to vote. I voted absentee once - against Nixon - when I was a student but still registered in my home town. College students then were not allowed to use their "temporary" residences to register to vote, even after they moved out of the dorms.

[Talitha]

28. Not a good idea at all.

[greytdemocrat]

44. Why???

[IrishEyes]

31. I would be against that idea.

[greytdemocrat]

45. That's cool.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

33. Nope. That can only be proposed by someone who has only ever worked a regular

office job with weekends and holidays off.

What if you're a nurse and you work 12 hour shifts and are scheduled that Saturday and Sunday? I guess it's just too bad for you, right? Or break your leg on Friday afternoon and simply cannot get out those too days. Too bad? Really?

Good early voting along with good mail-in voting is far, far better.

[greytdemocrat]

47. You will find a way

Or the Government can make Sat/Sun legal
days off for voting.

I'm not saying I have all the answers right now
but they do exist.

Just MHO.

[JI7]

59. Vote by Mail IS an answer and it's worked perfectly well as can be until now

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

75. So, we shut down all hospitals that weekend.

Somehow, I don't think that's a particularly good idea.

You really, really don't understand that there really are those whose work shift is such that getting to vote, if election day is only one or two days, getting off to vote simply can't happen.

Every time someone suggests that the current Election Day itself be a National Holiday, again, is someone who always gets holidays off and hasn't a clue about all those who don't. No wonder a lot of people still don't vote. It's not because they want to, it's that in a state that limits voting days, getting the time off may well be impossible.

I am so very glad I live in a state (New Mexico) that has excellent early voting. Which I did two weeks ago. Actually, I moved here from Kansas which also has good early voting. I haven't voted on Election Day in about twenty years.

[BlueInPhilly]

46. Hell to the no

Early voting is more convenient for people who do not have a M-F, 8 to 5 job. You are being ratio'd in case you haven't noticed

[greytdemocrat]

48. ????

What is ratio'd

[Rorey]

49. Mail in voting is working great in Colorado

It doesn't make sense to move backward, and that's what the system you're suggesting would do.

[canetoad]

50. How about election day

Is always on a Saturday. Early voting everywhere for three weeks is standard.

Welcome to my world.

[denbot]

51. Fuck No!

But I’m open to greater pre-election voting, making Election Day a National holiday, with mandatory double time pay for anyone who works at all on Election Day.

[GoneOffShore]

54. I like the double time for people obliged to work! I may add that to my suggestions below.

[GoneOffShore]

53. No - Absentee and Mail-in ballots available 6 weeks out.

In person early voting starts 6 weeks out. Walk up voter registration, day of voting with proper documentation.

Election Week-end starts Friday ends Monday 21:00 and declared a national holiday weekend.

Traceable paper ballots for all races. A standardised ballot nationwide.

Results by Tuesday 09:00. Certification by Friday. Swearing in on Saturday. No lame duck sessions. You lose the election, you lose your office, you lose your power.

Campaigning to start 3 months out. Publicly financed. NO PACS.

Mandatory voting, though that also means that you can vote 'None' but you have to vote.

[GeorgeGist]

56. I think you're narrow minded.

[JI7]

60. And that's putting it nicely

[JI7]

57. Many people work Saturday and Sunday. Your suggestion would make things worse

Vote by mail is needed for many.

[NBachers]

61. Visualize where I'd like to tell you to stick your proposal and your punitive inflexible "reasoning"

[Maru Kitteh]

65. Visualize me there to assist. With a sledgehammer and perhaps

a rusty implement, held sideways.

[Doreen]

64. I really do think ballots should be sent to the voters

and they should be able to mail back or leave it at a voting box. This said, I also think that all post offices should be required during voting season to have extra staff who only do ballot work. Then, I also think that the finale voting day should be a Federal holiday.

That would be a good start but as we know more would need to be done to protect all votes.

[rownesheck]

66. No.

Many people work retail jobs. Try to get one of those days off when everyone else is asking those same days off. Millions would be disenfranchised.

[Captain Stern]

67. Which problem(s) would that solve?

It sounds like a solution without a problem.

I think anything that actually makes it harder for people to vote is a bad idea.

[rusty fender]

68. What's wrong with early voting?

Why eliminate it

[panader0]

70. Unrec.

You certainly have not thought this through.
70 replies and 0 recommendations. Get the message?

[Mariana]

71. Why do you think this is a good idea? nt.

[LizBeth]

73. Have you seen the lines of two week early voting, massive mail in voting? You want two days and

and think that will allow things to run smoothly and easy peasy? Republicans would love your plan.

[lettucebe]

74. Why? Not everyone works Mon - Fri. Early voting has shown many more will vote

when it's easier. There's no reason to suspend early voting. November should be voting month.

[Iggo]

76. IBTTS.

[Wednesdays]

78. Unrecced and trashed. nt

[Blue_true]

82. Uniform early voting of 21 days, then voting on traditional Election Day.

Expand mail-in and drop-box voting for any registered citizen.

[Ms. Toad]

83. Nope.

Aside from the fact that a lot of low-income workers work both days (restaurant/grocery store/gas station/etc.), it would be nearly impossible to protect the vote.

I cover one polling location3 precincts (all in the same physical location). I can't find a good easy number for polling locations - but pulling up a random county there were about 20 - putting Ohio locations at perhaps 1500 - 2000. In many polling locations, there are two voter protection volunteers assigned - so perhaps 3000 for election day. The expected hours for volunteering are from 6:00 AM - 9:00 PM. Doing that two days in a row (sandwiched between two full work weeks - not going to happen for many of us So having two full days would close to double the number needed.

That's just voter protection. In the polling location where I vote, there are 6 volunteers. So now you need 5-10,000 pollworkers - roughly the same hours as voter protection. These have to be party members, so you need 11,000 democrats or so to run the polls and protect the vote.

(This contrasts with early voting which is proctored by paid workers, and there are typically 1-2 voter protection workers per county for each day of early voting.)

[ecstatic]

85. 4 weeks of voting prior to election day.

That works for me and most others.

[mcar]

87. Why limit it?

Vote by mail, early voting over several weekends, drive through voting. Election day a national holiday.

[Iggo]

89. A very simple difference between the two parties.

Democrats want to make it easier to vote so that more people will vote.
Republicans want to make it harder to vote so that fewer people will vote.

I'm for making it so easy to vote that every registered voter votes in every election.

[Meowmee]

90. Nope

We need more early voting, more centers, more options. The actual election day(s) should be a holiday.

[pecosbob]

91. We should have automated polling kiosks on every street corner in the nation

that print a paper receipt, open for a month, night and day....not a temporary assemblage of people and equipment that always seems to be cobbled together at the last moment, and by the way subject to all sorts of tom-foolery.