The trolls are already out on Kamala Harris...

[yuiyoshida]

I posted on Twitter a few items about her from DU and got attacked by so called '"Bernie Bros" but I suspect they are really Russian trolls, something about how they type certain words in English don't seem right... I have blocked at least a dozen people already. Some one told me to go back to my gaming and stay "the fuck out of politics or else" ... Screw that.. Blocked and Reported.

[Shell_Seas]

1. They must be scared of her.

[Perseus]

8. Republicans are afraid of smart women

Known fact...

[George II]

13. republicans are afraid of women.

[yuiyoshida]

23. Especially

Women of color, lets face it, there are still some Racists who can't stand it that someone might be running for office who has come from a different culture or background than they did. She has Jamaican roots, and that might scare them..for some reason.

[iluvtennis]

127. +++ agree

[Jeffersons Ghost]

144. Compare this Harris OP to another recent J.G. CHECK ALL THE NUMBERS:

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Here are the Kamala Harris readers and recommenders:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211743263

Here are other more typical Opening Posts by Jeffersons Ghost: Compare these to the previous OP:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=11392815
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211731121

These "trolls" are not in the USA; and they PLAN to embarrass their nation!

INCIDENTS ON MY COMPUTER ARE OFTEN CHINESE TROLLS BLAMING THEIR RUSSIAN ALLIES OR FREEPERS AND TRUMP FOR DISRUPTIONS! HOWEVER, THREATS YOU DESCRIBE, SOUND MORE LIKE HACKERS TRUMP PAID TO RIG THE ELECTION; OR BULLIES FBI AGENTS CAN TRACK STRAIGHT TO PUNKS, WHO HACKED VOTING MACHINES IN FLORIDA AND OTHER STATES. DON'T DISMISS THESE SERIOUS CRIMES AND THREATS TO THE NATIONAL POWER-GRID.

[Hortensis]

143. For sure, as much as they're afraid of ELECTABLE Democrats.

And she's looking like both, judging by the attacks from the right, far left, and far Russia.

Good sign. Last thing we want is those candidates they support.

[bdamomma]

147. they just don't like women

period.

[pazzyanne]

51. They DEFINITELY are scared of her!

I think they are right to be afraid of her. She is one kick*ss woman!

[yuiyoshida]

64. Ted Agrees!

Link to tweet

[appal_jack]

89. While Harris is impressive, will she move us forward in what matters?

Much respect to Ted Lieu, and to Kamala Harris as well. When it came to vetting and opposing Brett Kavanaugh, Harris led the way with a cool and collected competence that I found inspiring.

But for a Presidential candidate, I'm looking for someone who not only opposes Trump with competence, but who can lead on the true crises of the political moment. In my mind, these are the environment (energy, climate, biodiversity, etc.), wealth inequality, reversing decades of overly-punitive, failed criminal justice policies while reinvigorating protection of Constitutional liberties, and rebuilding public infrastructure.

I don't know Harris' stances on most of these issues in detail yet, but on criminal justice and Constitutional liberty matters, she appears to lean in the wrong direction. Here is a clip of Harris from less than five years ago where she dismisses an issue near and dear to you and I both, yuiyoshida:

Link to tweet

?s=04&fbclid=IwAR36kauhnvM30NfnWJ2h1BARxwbMc5msg3YlwOrxeUAEwGdDqaOC8W4LVTg

I'd like to hear a lot more about how Harris' thinking has evolved on this and other 1st/2nd/4th/5th Amendment issues (etc.) before I say either "NeverKamala" or "Kamala2020."

-app

[yuiyoshida]

93. I rather doubt she would find a way to reverse

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California's Laws on Marijuana use, legalization. After all, it was the people of this state that wanted it! However, I am not sure she would legalize it Federally, for all states, but she will probably allow new states to legalize it, if they have already decided to do so.

[mentalslavery]

122. Stuff like this is the worst of the worst....hard to stomach....

[MrsCoffee]

134. "NeverKamala"?

Well that would be a pretty stupid move.

By the way:

Kamala Harris Calls For Legalizing Marijuana And Ending War On Drugs In New Book

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tomangell/2019/01/08/kamala-harris-calls-for-legalizing-marijuana-and-ending-war-on-drugs-in-new-book/#2b62d57f2eee

"The Truths We Hold: An American Journey,"

"Something else it's past time we get done is dismantling the failed war on drugs—starting with legalizing marijuana," Sen. Kamala Harris (D-CA), who is weighing a 2020 presidential campaign, writes in her new book released on Tuesday.

When it comes to other drugs, the senator says "we also need to stop treating drug addiction like a public safety crisis instead of what it is: a public health crisis."

"When someone is suffering from addiction, their situation is made worse, not better, by involvement in the criminal justice system," she writes.

In May, Harris signed on as a cosponsor of a Booker-led bill to remove marijuana from the Controlled Substances Act and withhold federal funding from states with discriminatory cannabis enforcement.

[appal_jack]

146. Just referencing the tweet's hashtag, not mine.

The statement you quoted from her book is exactly the sort of evolution I would hope to see. It's a little late in coming from a California politician, but it's here, it's on-point, and I'm glad to see it. Thanks

The #NeverKamala folks on Twitter and elsewhere are raising other serious concerns that need to be addressed. Will Harris cozy up to banksters and give Wall Street free rein, or will more progressive taxation and stricter, more effective regulation be on the table? Has Harris reconsidered her punitive actions against sex workers that transgress on the First Amendment?

These are questions that need to be asked during a primary. I'm not here to say "Never" about any Democrat. I am here to help ascertain and then promote the most viable, respected, inspiring, and helpful Democratic candidate possible.

-app

[LiberalLovinLug]

131. It is now pretty obvious that stoking a Bernie supporters vs Kamala supporters is Putin's tactic

And facilitated and mirrored by GOP trolls too I'd imagine. And even perhaps a segment of Democrats.

It worked very well last time. Even a few in here are fooled pretty easily.

"Bernie Bros" is an invention by Robinson Meyer, a writer for The Atlantic, who's specialty is Climate Change, not inside politics. But it was seen and then used by ulterior groups to sow division.

Of course there are actual tunnel visioned cognitional impaired that one may find to fit the description. The tiny few that give credence to the myth. There are probably a few gay, black, immigrants that support Trump.

But the idea that the left, even the more extreme left, is against women, African Americans, and ESPECIALLY African American women, is ludicrous if you even study that possibility for a second. It was the left that historically fought for women's rights, the left that fights for civil rights, including during MLK days. Its the left that fights for unions, for environmental protections, for social security....etc...etc....etc....If you don't fight for all types of social justice, then you are not left in any way.

I don't know how dumb one has to be to actually believe that there is some large influential significant organized group of left-leaning folks, that only allow white males into their club, that have some kind of cultish overwhelming crush on a cranky disheveled old man who barks more than he speaks. And that everyone, not just Republicans, everyone else is beyond hope and to be ridiculed on Twitter.

[SergeStorms]

132. In 2010 KKKarl Rove...

was so impressed with Ms. Harris he committed Republican operatives and money to stop her from winning the office of Attorney General in California. He lost. Rove is said to have stated that Harris was someone to be reckoned with on the national political stage in the future, and he did everything he could to defeat her before she could get started on her political journey. He saw the toughness, capability, and personal magnetism she was capable of. People flocked to her, and Rove thought she was "the female Obama".
Say what you will about Rove (I could go on all day about my opinion of him!) but he was, and still remains, an accurate barometer of political capability. Heck, old "turd blossom" saw something in George W. Bush that no one else saw, and along with all of Poppy Bush's right-wing pals, and a conservative Supreme Court, he was "selected" as President of the United States.

Ms. Harris is exponentially more capable and likable than George W. Bush was. She worries Republicans deeply, and that's a very good thing!

[ProudLib72]

2. I'll say it again

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RW trolls, I'm taking a page from your own playbook. From now on, any and all negative comments about Harris will make me want to support her even more. So, please, keep it up trolls. I'm following your RW practice of digging in under fire. The difference is that, in my support for Kamala Harris, I know it is for the right reasons. You see, I know for damned sure that she is an intelligent, super educated, liberal minded, young but tested Democratic candidate.

So I Kamala. You make some negative comments and I will add another

I have your number fucking trolls!

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211712007

[Jeffersons Ghost]

36. I too think that it's ignorant RW trolls, paid by Trump...

However, Teflon Don is going to Russian steel and shut the government down - especially border security, like the Coast Guard and TSA - again, in the hopes of creating an international terrorist incident.

[certainot]

116. what is really predictable is for trolls to piggyback the limbaugh attacks - communist, had affairs

etc

a couple of years swiftboating the frontrunners while democrats ignore talk radio will continue to work great for them

it will get it ramped up and all the dems who thought they would 'get her back' will stupidly ignore it and then if she wins they'll get the same national dominant buzz going to suggest she's a fake messiah who can't do shit - because republicans will obstruct everything

[RandySF]

3. From the left and right.

And they are already slimier then anything I saw against Hillary.

[Blue_Tires]

4. Which means she's doing something right...

[LuvLoogie]

20. I'm noticing that, too, Randy. As if their hit job on Hillary failed to demoralize us.

I hate the horse race game/bias played by the MSM but, to make an analogy if I may, here's to Kamala being like Secretariat at the Belmont.

[honest.abe]

5. Yes, but from what I have seen so far its insignificant.

They will be digging for more but I doubt they will find much. Of course they will try to exaggerate whatever they find but I suspect Kamala will know how to deal with whatever they come up with. She's got the right stuff.

[Mr.Bill]

17. Yes, exactly.

Someone with a law degree being appointed to commissions that paid less than six figures is hardly a scandal. She would be more qualified for any cabinet position than any Trump appointee.

[bearsfootball516]

6. Yeah, I just had a post removed for defending her.

[yuiyoshida]

9. Alerting on me?

Wow... 共有してくれてありがとう!! I remember the saying, "don't feed the Trolls" but its hard to do when they follow you around and hit the Report button for some reason or another.

[Blecht]

10. Yes

I just finished reading your post and got the notice --

I responded with the "disrupt" option.

[yuiyoshida]

12. I wonder if they followed me from Twitter to DU...

I retweet and post a lot of stories on twitter...especially about Kamala Harris...
非常に奇妙なようです！

[honest.abe]

14. I think it was the "Bernie Bros" reference in your OP.

They dont like that term.

[yuiyoshida]

16. They may not like it but they

Used it in a tweet... The Bernie or Bust crowd.. seem to be hating on Kamala for some reasons... sending me articles on how terrible she is... most of it is crap.. probably made up or ..from right wing sources who don't like a woman of Color running for President!

そのバカ、本当に！

[honest.abe]

18. Probably a troll..

and yeah its crap. She's clean.

[watoos]

26. No one is clean,

but her skeletons are insignificant. I voted for Bernie then Hillary. For me, Bernie had his chance, I've moved on.

Listening to Kamala yesterday moved her up to #1 for me. It wasn't just what she said, speech writers can help a lot with that, but it was how she said it. Her presentation, her inflection, her resolve, her spirit sold me on her.

She has charisma, something not many have.

I want us to elect a woman, but not just because she is a woman, Kamala fits the bill.

I like her idea to give the working class $500/month and take it from the tax break for the rich scam. Tearing up something that Trump is proud of is a winner.

[honest.abe]

28. Yes, that's right but she is clearly clean enough...

and for sure cleaner than that Beast in the WH.

[watoos]

46. I could not agree with you more.

The thing is the M$M is not our friend, it is controlled by the corporate right and it will try to bring her down.
We on the left need to have her back from attacks from both the left and right.

Just like we need to have AOC's back.

When I see concerted, planned attacks on people from both the left and right, I know that person is feared by the right. I hope we learned our lesson about the false flags and Russian trolls and bots who pose as Democrats.

The GOP/Trump/Putin party is on the brink of destruction, we Democrats need to stay united and positive.

[MrsCoffee]

42. We aren't running any women just because they are women.

Just an FYI.

[watoos]

48. I disagree.

I see no problem with the DNC going out and looking for capable female candidates. Women have been restrained for too long from having a seat at the table.

I live among the Trumpers in central Pa. and I golf with an 85 year old man who does Meals on Wheels, is a Korean war vet, does military funerals, is active in his church. He told me that the day that went down in infamy was the day we gave women the right to vote. He was serious.

We need more women in Congress and public offices.

[MrsCoffee]

92. Name the candidates we are running just because they are women.

Name them.

Your argument is a nasty 'ol strawman.

[Cha]

101. Yes it is.. They are Qualified Women.

I for one don't think in terms of gender, orientation, or color.

I want to know if they can beat the puppet and lead us out of the abyss he put us in.

[Jake Stern]

81. Fighting for two years to keep an innocent man in prison is "insignificant"?

Justifying it by saying he failed to file his appeal in a timely manner, Harris tried to keep Daniel Larsen in prison despite his being found "actually innocent" by a federal judge.

[Mosby]

86. her entire history as an AG is troubling

How did she become the "anointed one" exactly?

She supports three strikes laws.

She refused to join other AGs to remove weed from the schedule 4 list.

She sent parents to jail because their kids skipped school.

She refused to prosecute One Westbank for ripping people off.

[LanternWaste]

96. Who (other than yourself) is arguiing she is "the anointed one?"

Or (and I find this more likely) are you simply throwing what you can where you can how you can and when you can?

[Mosby]

107. there have been like 30, 40 threads here about senator Harris

Since she announced.

What do you think are her liberal credentials?

Not just words, that is.

[yuiyoshida]

105. This sounds familiar , were you on my Twitter feed?

I have heard all this before..

[Mosby]

112. I'm not on twitter

And FYI, people that may like a democratic candidate other that Kamala Harris are not necessarily trolls of any type.

[LanternWaste]

115. Thankfully, no one at all (other than yourself) is arguing or implying otherwise.

"people that may like a democratic candidate other that Kamala Harris are not necessarily trolls of any type."

You're kinda going off the rails this week, eh? Tough weekend, I imagine.

[Mosby]

123. I don't usually respond to personal attacks.

But maybe it's you that has gone off the rails.

You should take a break, you already have one hide.

[Jake Stern]

106. That's "insignificant", remember?

[Mosby]

109. just wait until a reporter asks her about reincarnation

She has more baggage than the lost and found carousel at LAX.

[honest.abe]

117. Those tidbits from her background will probably help her with centrist voters on both sides.

But as a reality check she is ranked as one of the most progressive Senators on Progressive Punch based on votes:

http://www.progressivepunch.org/scores.htm?topic=&house=senate&sort=overall-lifetime&order=down&party=

[uponit7771]

135. *** CALLING BULLSHIT ON YOUR LIST !!! ***

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She supports three strikes laws. - *** BULLSHIT !!! ***

She tried to get 3 strikes amended to be violent crimes not petty shit - HERE

But Harris required that the San Francisco district attorney’s office only charge for a third strike if the felony was a serious or violent crime.

She refused to join other AGs to remove weed from the schedule 4 list. - Link and quote !?!, I could only find articles on Google that showed she was at worst inert on the issue here

I do NOT see proof that she "REFUSED" to join by statement or otherwise

Don’t get us wrong, Harris is not standing in the way on pot. She’s just inert.

During the failed bid to put legalization on the 2014 California ballot, Harris’ Office gave a rosy assessment of legalization’s benefits.

She hasn’t threatened doctors and obstructed the implementation of the people’s will like Dan Lungren did in 1996 when Prop 215 passed.

She also did her job and green-lit research hemp for California this year.

But she’s not standing up for patients and dispensaries like Board of Equalization member Betty Yee, either.

... the other articles from the search show Harris being supportive of MJ legalization.

She sent parents to jail because their kids skipped school. - *** BULLSHIT !! *** Link and quote to her sending parents to jail!! Or is this some other twitter bullshit Russians are throwing out there !?!?!

I found nothing other than her making a threat of it on an explanation video on YT that the federalist put up.

She refused to prosecute One West bank for ripping people off. - *** BULLSHIT !! *** OneWest had already signed a consent order with federal agency which the prosecution memo explains would've duplicated actions if the CA AG sued

HERE

2. Because of its misconduct, OneWest had signed a consent order with a federal agency, the Office of Thrift Supervision, in 2011.

The "refused to sue OneWest" is some more one sided half truth bullshit.

Watch your sources, at best they're only telling half of the story or none at all.

[honest.abe]

139. Thank you. As I suspected the attacks against her are bogus.

[Mosby]

150. Reply

Three strikes law:

...But as the San Francisco Chronicle noted in 2012, Harris largely “stayed out of politically risky fights over criminal sentencing.”

In fact, Harris was to the right of her Republican opponent on the issue in the 2010 attorney general’s race. Los Angeles D.A. Steve Cooley, whom Harris narrowly defeated, had championed a reform effort in 2006 and ran on a platform of fixing the law.

She did not take a position on the successful 2012 ballot initiative to amend the law.

https://www.sacbee.com/latest-news/article224633700.html


Her changing position on legal pot:

“Something else it’s past time we get done is dismantling the failed war on drugs—starting with legalizing marijuana,” Harris writes.

But dismantling prohibition, she adds, must be accomplished “with eyes wide open, understanding that there is unfinished business when it comes to legalization.”

These opinions reflect a reversal from Harris, who just a few years back was chuckling at questions regarding cannabis. Back in 2014, Harris was battling GOP candidate Ron Gold in a race to be California’s Attorney General. Gold heavily favored legalizing adult-use marijuana, and integrated it into part of his platform.

When a local news reporter asked Harris her thoughts on Gold’s position, she replied that “he’s entitled to his opinion,” before bursting into laughter. Just two years ago, when Californians voted to legalize adult-use cannabis, she declined support for the ballot measure.


https://www.thegrowthop.com/cannabis-news/kamala-harris-now-supports-cannabis-legalization-and-ending-war-on-drugs



Sending parents to jail:

Earlier this week, a video clip of Kamala Harris speaking in 2010 at an event hosted by the Commonwealth Club started making the rounds. The clip shows Harris, who was then the district attorney of San Francisco, championing her efforts to combat chronic school truancy by prosecuting parents of students who habitually missed class. “This was a little controversial in San Francisco,” she said with a laugh.

As a then-candidate for California’s attorney general—and after her victory in 2010—she had pushed the state to pass and implement one of the harshest anti-truancy laws in the nation, one that would penalize parents of students who were chronically absent from school with up to a year in potential jail time or a fine of up to $2,500. “We recognized that in that initiative, as a prosecutor and law enforcement, I have a huge stick,” she said in 2010. “The school district has got a carrot. Let’s work in tandem around our collective objective and goal, which is to get those kids in school.”

https://theslot.jezebel.com/this-is-what-truancy-laws-do-1832159930



One west:

General Kamala Harris on Wednesday vaguely acknowledged The Intercept’s report about her declining to prosecute Steven Mnuchin’s OneWest Bank for foreclosure violations in 2013, but offered no explanation.

“It’s a decision my office made,” she said, in response to questions from The Hill shortly after being sworn in as California’s newest U.S. senator.

“We went and we followed the facts and the evidence, and it’s a decision my office made,” Harris said. “We pursued it just like any other case. We go and we take a case wherever the facts lead us.”

Mnuchin is Donald Trump’s nominee to run the Treasury Department, and served as CEO of OneWest from 2009 to 2015. In an internal memo published on Tuesday by The Intercept, prosecutors at the California attorney general’s office said they had found over a thousand violations of foreclosure laws by his bank during that time, and predicted that further investigation would uncover many thousands more.

But the investigation into what the memo called “widespread misconduct” was closed after Harris’s office declined to file a civil enforcement action against the bank.


https://theintercept.com/2017/01/05/kamala-harris-fails-to-explain-why-she-didnt-prosecute-steven-mnuchins-bank/

[uponit7771]

151. You reposted what I looked and lquoted but didn't refute any of it

[honest.abe]

114. i dont know the details of all the cases but Im sure there wer alot of pressures and complications..

she had to deal with. Its very unfair to cherry pick a case here and there that appear to be controversial.

What is clear that since she been in the Senate her record is one the most progressive/liberal of all Senators.. ranked higher than Sanders and Warren on some progressive ranking sites. Also, her statements as a candidate are clearly progressive and solid Democratic. Many candidates have baggage from the past. Warren used to be a Republican for example. Most seem to have gotten over that.

[Jake Stern]

118. There's a world of difference between somebody being a Republican in the past

and someone who hasn't owned up to trying to keep an innocent man in prison.

You're right: that's pretty damn controversial and deservedly so.

As is her push to lock up the parents of truant kids or her unshaken support of civil asset forfeiture, even without a conviction.

[honest.abe]

120. Well I would like see the facts of these cases before making any judgements.

Its possible you may have heard incorrect information.

[Jake Stern]

124. All the information I have heard is quite correct

[link:https://www.jacobinmag.com/2017/08/kamala-harris-trump-obama-california-attorney-general|]

[link:https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Daniel-Larsen-Murder-Conviction-Overturned-Innocence-Project-198996291.html|]

[link:https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/17/opinion/kamala-harris-criminal-justice.html|]

[link:https://www.scpr.org/news/2010/04/26/14493/Truancy-penalty/|]

[link:https://www.montereyherald.com/2015/02/23/luis-alejo-kamala-harris-back-asset-seizure-before-criminal-charges/|]

[honest.abe]

125. Thank you.

I will look these over.

[honest.abe]

126. Your first link is full of good things about her:

Harris’s career has been laudatory at times.

The first test of Harris’s principles came in 2004, after she was elected as San Francisco’s district attorney (DA) while promising never to impose capital punishment. Less than six months into her tenure, Harris defied a united chorus of voices — from the city’s police chief and police rank and file, to Democratic senator Dianne Feinstein — calling for the death penalty for a twenty-one-year-old who killed an undercover police officer.

During the officer’s funeral, two thousand officers gave Feinstein a standing ovation after a speech in which she criticized Harris, who was also at the funeral. The state’s attorney general and former senator Barbara Boxer (whose seat Harris has now taken) looked for ways to circumvent Harris’s decision, but ultimately failed. Thanks in large part to Harris’s steadfastness, the killer was spared the death penalty.

In other words, at the very start of her career, Harris defied her own party, her city’s police department, and endured public humiliation to defy reactionary demands.

Later, in 2009, Harris’s Republican rival for attorney general attempted to use her anti-capital punishment stance against her and turn the race, in his words, into “a referendum on the death penalty.” Harris didn’t budge.

Harris has been a frequent critic of the criminal justice system, an encouraging sign. She outlined her philosophy in her 2009 book Smart on Crime: A Career Prosecutor’s Plan to Make Us Safe, the title of which has become a common refrain for Harris. Her “smart” approach, according to the book, involves focusing on “short-circuiting the criminal careers of offenders much earlier,” “getting offenders out of the system permanently,” ensuring “lower rates of recidivism,” and “investing in comprehensive efforts to reduce the ranks of young offenders entering the criminal justice system.” One of her suggestions was to teach nonviolent inmates and some juvenile offenders skills for employment.

To that end, Harris supported reforming California’s three-strikes law, refrained from seeking life sentences for criminals who committed nonviolent “third strikes,” and in 2004 instituted the Back on Track program, which put first-time offenders between ages eighteen and twenty-four into eighteen-month-long city college apprentice programs, which contributed to the city’s recidivism rates dropping from 54 percent to 10 percent in six years. She would later order parole officers not to enforce residency restrictions against sex offenders.

Over her time as DA and, later, as California attorney general, she took a number of progressive stances. She opposed the anti-gay Proposition 8, helped defend Obamacare in court, supported an undocumented immigrant’s bid for a law license, sponsored legislation that increased transparency around websites’ data collection, opposed California’s despicable “shoot the gays” ballot initiative, and filed a brief in the Supreme Court encouraging it to allow public universities to consider race in admissions. Under her direction, the state’s justice department adopted body cameras, California police were made to undergo implicit racial bias training, and her office received an award for accelerating the testing of rape kits.

Harris also had a respectable record of standing up to corporate malfeasance. She filed a friend-of-the-court brief signed by thirty-one other state attorneys general in 2011 in a Supreme Court case looking to end the practice of drug companies paying competitors to keep generic versions of their drugs off the market. In 2012, she set up a privacy enforcement protection unit in the attorney general’s office, which at one point fined a company for surreptitiously installing spyware on its customers’ computers.

In 2011, she brought the largest fraud settlement in decades against a company that had spent fifteen years overcharging the state’s insurance program for the poor and disabled. She reached a $6.5 million settlement with two former Countrywide executives over predatory lending and called for a Homeowners’ Bill of Rights, which led foreclosures to plummet in the state and Daily Kos to declare her “a bankster’s worst nightmare.”

Harris also has a strong history of going after polluters. As district attorney, she created San Francisco’s first Environmental Justice Unit and went after cases involving illegal dumping and air pollution. As attorney general, she went after companies including BP, Chevron, Comcast, Cosco Busan, ExxonMobil, and South California Gas Company, with Cosco Busan agreeing to the largest settlement of its kind for its 2007 spill in the San Francisco Bay.

With Trump in office, Harris has become even more outspoken. She’s come out in support of single-payer health care and free college tuition for families earning less than $140,000 a year. She’s a frequent critic of Trump’s policies. In her short time in the Senate, she’s put forward bills to end the pay gap for black women and clarify the rights of people detained at US ports of entry, and cosponsored bills to raise the federal minimum wage, close tax loopholes for Big Oil, ban agricultural use of dangerous pesticides, and stop new oil and gas leases as well as the renewal of old ones in the Arctic Ocean.

Do you dismiss all that based on a few controversial cases??

[Jake Stern]

130. I don't dismiss anybody until the votes are counted

That being said she is not my first choice.

To me, those few controversial cases are concerning.

- I oppose asset forfeiture outside of a conviction or at least a hearing with the same standard of proof as a criminal case. They always claim they need it to get the kingpins but always seem to get either bit players or worse, innocent people carrying a large quantity of cash.

- I am opposed to three strikes laws except in cases of violent felonies or sex crimes.

- One never knows when new evidence or proof of prosecutorial misconduct will surface and someone shouldn't be kept locked up based on an arbitrary deadline.

[uponit7771]

138. MORE Bullshit! Her CAF support was aimed at Transnationals not just gangs & she's owned up to Cooper

Bullshit she DID own up to Kevin Cooper and is even pushing for DNA evidence to be tested -

https://www.facebook.com/KamalaHarris/posts/10156769408692923

Kamala Harris
May 18, 2018 ·

My career as a prosecutor was marked by fierce opposition to the death penalty while still upholding the law and a commitment to fixing a broken criminal justice system. I’ve long been an advocate for measures to improve and make our system more fair and just.

As a firm believer in DNA testing, I hope the governor and the state will allow for such testing in the case of Kevin Cooper.

and

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/05/17/opinion/sunday/kevin-cooper-california-death-row.html

As state attorney general, Kamala Harris refused to allow this advanced DNA testing and showed no interest in the case (on Friday, after the online publication of this column, Senator Harris called me to say "I feel awful about this" and put out a statement saying: "As a firm believer in DNA testing, I hope the governor and the state will allow for such testing in the case of Kevin Cooper.&quot

https://www.montereyherald.com/2015/02/23/luis-alejo-kamala-harris-back-asset-seizure-before-criminal-charges/

“Transnational criminal organizations rely on a steady flow of billions of dollars in laundered money to support their operations,” Harris said in a statement. “The legislation I am sponsoring will equip local and state law enforcement with more tools to target their illicit profits and dismantle these dangerous organizations.”

Gang-related crime is not the only crime targeted in the bill. It would also allow seizures for crimes such as arson, bribery, child pornography, gambling and even trafficking endangered species.

[uponit7771]

137. The List is petty bullshit IMHO see post 135

[honest.abe]

140. Yes.. just saw that!

Thanks!

[uponit7771]

141. Looks like the trolls are out in force on DU, bout the only thing they can do right now is suppress

... enthusiasm for Harris.

No one is going to take racist MAGA KKKultist opposition to another brown person running for president as nothing more than being typically racist so they have no choice but to suppress enthusiasm on the left.

Here's some more BS that's being spewed - https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211740106#post138

[honest.abe]

142. Yep.. but its not going to work.

Kamala is the real deal and most will realize it once they see and hear her.

[LongtimeAZDem]

44. Agreed; I've been hit for it before.

[NastyRiffraff]

98. Bernie Bros was originally their term

They were proud of it...brothers in arms, y'know! Since the term was mocked they hate it. Too damn bad; cry me a river.

[honest.abe]

121. Really, I didnt know that. LOL.

[uponit7771]

54. Whoa, why can't we do something about that bullshit?!?!

[yuiyoshida]

79. DU probably does, but twitter not so much , however

Twitter has deleted fake accounts that were connected to the Russians but they keep coming back under new identities...

[progressoid]

103. Twitter estimates 23million of its active users are actually bots

And that was 4 years ago.

https://qz.com/248063/twitter-admits-that-as-many-as-23-million-of-its-active-users-are-actually-bots/

[Hekate]

57. Better to delete this brief convo and pm the info

Word to the wise

[Blecht]

58. Thanks, Hekate

But I'll let it stand. If the trolls get it hidden, so be it.

[MontanaFarmer]

11. Her rollout has been excellent

She's building early momentum, and status as the front runner. Those with a reason to dislike those facts are sure to try most anything. Those of us who want her to be successful should continue to call it out as we see it. Very much looking forward to her iowa town hall tonight.

[yuiyoshida]

15. Yes! on CNN tonight...

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I can't wait to see it!! すごい！！ Welcome to DU!! DUへようこそ!!

[DesertRat]

27. Well said! I'm looking forward to it too

Welcome to DU!

[LovingA2andMI]

19. Yep....

The Russian Troll Farms are starting already. Have noticed this on Twitter also. Best to block and be ready as Kamala is a threat to them -- However Kamala will WIN over their disgusting tricks.

[ffr]

21. I've seen some M$M coverage on her that's hard while giving Rubio and Graham passes.

It's the lead up to 2016 all over again. If we're not seeing the both-sides-do-it "she's" a bad candidate in the press, we're getting ugly comments from out of the woodwork. Where's the equivalency for the "he's" a bad candidate?

Kamala Harris must be striking a nerve with the rightees. That's got to be a good thing then.

Yuiyoshida, keep banning and reporting.

[yuiyoshida]

24. Arigatou!

喜んで準拠！Happily Compliant!

[ffr]

52. We'll never do that. It's against their business model, all M$M business model.

We need to educate skepticism into the public consciousness. A skeptical person is less likely to be a gullible person, no matter how much M$M brainwashing/fear/both-sides-do-it bullshit that is thrown at them.

[Auggie]

22. Just the start. Time to reacquaint ourselves with Deepfake technology ...

It wasn't around in 2016 but we'll start seeing it soon IMO.

What is Deepfake? From wikipedia:

Deepfake, a portmanteau of "deep learning" and "fake", is an artificial intelligence-based human image synthesis technique. It is used to combine and superimpose existing images and videos onto source images or videos using a machine learning technique called a "generative adversarial network" (GAN). The combination of the existing and source videos results in a fake video that shows a person or persons performing an action at an event that never occurred in reality.

Such fake videos can be created to, for example, alter the words or gestures a politician uses to make it look like that person said something they never did. Deepfakes can also be used to create fake news and malicious hoaxes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deepfake

[yuiyoshida]

30. Oh that's great...

so for example if it showed Kamala at rally shouting "Black Power' and Raising a fist, (And it really didn't happen) How the fuck is the public supposed to know what is real and what is not? This Technology could destroy not only someone's career but their life as well...It sounds horrible!

[Auggie]

59. That's an extreme example but certainly possible...

you might want to check out deepfakes on youtube. It's amazing what they've already done with Trump and Alec Baldwin, for example. Meanwhile, the software keeps getting more advanced.

First time I came across this I really freaked-out.

[yuiyoshida]

61. Its bad enough some people try to revise history but this

this could change everything- imagine this on FOx news, THOSE people are already brain washed... hell, with this Tech, Alex JONES could show people stuff that never really happened!

[Laura PourMeADrink]

66. Agree. It doesn't matter if YOU see the bullshit - it's the FB users who have no clue

that see it. They did it with Beto here. I saw it fester and grow and really think it was enough to doom him.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

72. crowd source

Your example of a faked incident could be refuted by multiple individual video recordings by people at the event -- all those smartphones aimed at the speaker. That protection wouldn't be available for meetings or other things that can be faked.

We're just going to have to be skeptical of things that don't quite seem right.

[yuiyoshida]

75. I COULD easily see FOX NEWS...

or Tucker Carlson or Sean Hannity using this to rile up the base with false information. I mean, could you even imagine what Alex Jones could have done with this technology? Its scary!

[Hermit-The-Prog]

82. like the video of Jim Acosta, only competently done

The liars in the White House attempted to discredit Jim Acosta with a faked video, but they were so incompetent at it the attempt failed. Those you name have vicious and competent technicians behind them and could succeed.

[still_one]

29. If you are doing that through FB, Twitter, or the like, the social media is loaded with trolls with

various agendas. Many are paid to spew out disinformation and distortions

[yuiyoshida]

32. Yup paid Trolls..

Read about that here on DU, in fact!

仕方がない!

[NewJeffCT]

31. i saw it last week before she officially declared

On twitter:

Bernie Bro: Steve Mnuchin gave money to Kamala Harris, so she's in his pocket.
Me: So, a $2,000 donation from Mnuchin in a non competitive Senate campaign where Harris raised $15 million means she's in his pocket? That seems ridiculous, and she rewarded him by voting against him for Secretary of the Treasury? Doesn't seem like a puppet to me.
Bernie Bro: It's corruption! She can't be trusted. Same with Gillebrand.
Me: Bernie Sanders took almost $15,000 of defense industry money and voted for the $1.5 trillion F-35.
Bernie Bro: Defense industry employs a lot of people in Vermont, he did it for his constituents.
Me: The banking industry employs tens of thousands of people in New York City alone. Maybe if Gillebrand didn't vote how you wanted on banks it's because she's also doing it for her constituents?
Bernie Bro: You lie! <deletes all his responses to me>
Me: Post chart showing defense industry contributions to Sanders in 2016

(One of my pet peeves is that Open Secrets is deceptive because you need to list your industry if you make a political donation - so, Bob from Accounting at ExxonMobil or Helga in HR at Citibank each giving $25 to a candidate gets listed as OIL/GAS industry and BANKING/FINANCIAL SERVICES in Open Secrets. If 1,000 Bobs and Helgas each give $25 each, it's the same as the ExxonMobil or Citibank CEO bundling $25,000 in donations to a Republican. In which case is the politician more likely in the pocket of a donor?)

[Tom Rinaldo]

49. "Bernie Bro", or Russian Troll?

Disinformation and disruption is by far most effective when calculated to create the most division and infighting possible. Who do you think a Russian troll is going to pose as? A Putin loving American?

[scheming daemons]

67. Sadly... there is often no difference between the two.

[Tom Rinaldo]

68. If there are 5 trolls for every person they imitate

that is a very significant difference between the two. Trolls make relatively fringe positions seem to represent a much larger percentage of the public than they actually do, and thereby distort our political debates in numerous ways.

[MrsCoffee]

136. So true.

[spanone]

33. K&R...

[samnsara]

34. i can spend hrs identifying, calling out and blocking trolls and bots..

..but at least this time we are aware of them and we wont get bamboozled.....just mildly irritated..

[Fla Dem]

35. Don't forget about a certain DU spin off group.

They would like nothing more than DUer's snipping at one another.

[yuiyoshida]

37. I wonder if that's the group I had joined and than left ..

they started treating me badly, because I am mixed.. Japanese and Hawaiian Native. Too many Haters on that website..and if you are not caucasian, you are suspect.

[Duppers]

39. +10

[CentralMass]

38. Is thst happening here ?

[yuiyoshida]

40. Well, apparently someone

has already alerted on this posting, so perhaps they are here. They play both sides of the game and do it to stir up the people with hate speech about a candidate.. and others will pretend to like her and oppose .. sometimes its even the same person, pretending to be two people arguing.

[CentralMass]

71. Thank you.

[yuiyoshida]

73. this is great, check this out!

Link to tweet

[IronLionZion]

41. She can win

and that bothers a certain type of person. Her platform is more liberal than recent Dems who have won a presidential election.

It was probably RW or Russian trolls, not Bernie supporters. She's worked with Bernie on several liberal bills.

[yuiyoshida]

45. I agree, that it just didn't seem like

these messages came from home grown Americans... just the way these messages came out like someone was using a Google translator..the sentences just seemed grammatically off!

[H2O Man]

43. Recommended.

I first met with Bernie in the early 1980s. I worked with two associates on his 2016 primary campaign. But, to a person, none of us want him to run in 2020. More, while we recognize we have many good potential candidates for 2020, we all favor Senator Harris at this time.

[RandySF]

47. Attacks from the left are not all Russian trolls

For example, California’s own Lauren Steiner:

Link to tweet

?s=21

[KitSileya]

74. She ran an independent Bernie group and was a Sanders delegate.

I'm not going to speculate on how independent her group was if she was also a delegate for Sanders at the convention, but she's not a Russian bot. She's a real live American Bernie supporter who posted vile things about Kamala Harris, got ratioed to death, claimed to take the tweet down to protect Bernie, not because it was offensive to Harris, and then got ratioed to death again. You can see how she claims not to be racist or misogynistic while being racist and misogynistic...

She joins forces with other Bernie supporters like David Sirota (attacked Beto O'Rourke), Jared Beck (sued the DNC and attacked Harris), and others. All Americans, not Russian bots.

[honest.abe]

99. Well that stinks.

Its hard enough battling RW haters. We certainly don't need this coming from other supposed Democrats.

[Cha]

102. Exactly.. I've seen their crap

on twitter.

[niyad]

50. my only surprise is that it took them this long to start. EHY, RWNJs, FU!!!!!!!

[sarcasmo]

53. Russian bots on Twitter will only grow as Kamala's popularity grows.

[tinrobot]

55. Ran into one on Facebook. She was a rabid Bernieholic in 2016

Now she's directing her latent rage towards Kamala.

It never stops.

[yuiyoshida]

56. We now have TED on our side!!

Link to tweet

[Apollyonus]

60. To the purity-seeking-crowd

no one is "pure" enough except one.

[yuiyoshida]

62. Who would that be?

I am curious!

[Apollyonus]

63. You're smart .. you know already n/t

[yuiyoshida]

65. heh...

Thanks, ...I think

[Iggo]

84. I'm thinking of a fictional character from a very old book.

[PatSeg]

69. Yeah

That sounds very trollish to me. I'm sure the Russians are out in full force ready to replay their greatest hits of 2016.

[yuiyoshida]

70. Unfortunately...

Its disturbing that one can't post a message on twitter without someone jumping down your throat and calling you names cause you support a certain candidate... and why are they always vicious? I am just blocking and reporting them.. its all you can do. shoganai!

[bronxiteforever]

76. K & R. Their troll bs ain't gonna fly this time.

All hail yuiyoshida, troll slayer!

[yuiyoshida]

77. Naw, I haven't slayed any trolls... but lots of Monsters!

Link to tweet

[bronxiteforever]

78. Lol! Monster slayer then!

[yuiyoshida]

80. YES! very much!

[JuJuYoshida]

83. That was rude of them!

The Repubs hare Harris and are totally scared of her!

[Iggo]

85. ...as expected.

[bobbieinok]

87. MAJOR PROB--how do we get general population to recognize trolls?

Especially those not politically involved?

Many in US learn as little kids to discount commercial ad claims.

But they seem unable to be similarly aware in politics.

Or--they just say all politicians are crooks.

But many fell for all the manipulation vs HRC in 16.

[honest.abe]

88. I think Kamala will handle RW dirty tricks much differently than Hillary.

The Hillary campaign decided it was best to play prevent defense and just ride out the misinformation and lies thinking they had it won against Trump. That would have probably worked had it not been for the last minute Comey memo.

I suspect the Kamala Harris campaign is going to be much more aggressive and push back against anything false or exaggerated. Also, clearly Kamala is comfortable being the attack dog and also is smart enough to know when not to say anything.

I think she's got this.

[bobbieinok]

90. Hope you're right. Problem is much bigger than attacks on Harris. It's those vs dems in general

[honest.abe]

91. True... it is a bigger problem and I blame social media, RW hate radio and Fox news.

What happens on social media and RW meida is virtually impossible for us to control. I think we just have to be very aggressive when necessary and get the truth out in a clear, simple and easily understandable way. I think we need to remember we will never change the minds of the hard core RWingers. We only need to reach a certain percentage of those in the middle, Independents and moderate Rs, who are reasonable.

[Nitram]

94. Thanks for reporting this. I am inclined to agree with you that this is more likely Russian trolls

than Bernie Bros. Sounds like they have already taken the gloves off.

[yuiyoshida]

97. oh they have... I have gotten some nasty messages but

what stuck out in my mind is the poor english, used. Words spelled wrong, but like they were pronounced. Its like someone translated (google translate) stuff from one language to English...done very poorly!

[Nitram]

104. I remember this from the 2016 primary campaigns and election.

[Takket]

95. That just means they are afraid of her...

[yuiyoshida]

100. or if it is Russian Trolls, than Putin instructions are probably

some thing like "Destroy the candidate, we need Trump for four more years"... they will do anything to bring her down in the polls. False stories, stuff planted in her possession, anything.

[deurbano]

108. I noticed Twitter accounts supposedly belonging to black women (& some men) posting vile things

about her, including about how racist Indians are against black people, and how Kamala's father must be part Indian, too... and Indians in Jamaica are very racist... which is supposed to lend support to the charge that Kamala is racist.... etc.. I had been looking at "normal" tweets regarding Kamala's announcement (my daughter was at the rally yesterday, and came home very excited!), then checked out some of the trollish responses, and found some of these accounts already had post after negative post about her. I'm sure there are some "real" people caught up in this, who are amplified by the others... but what "real" people have so much time in their regular lives to devote to tearing down one candidate who JUST announced?

[Alea]

110. She will be the next POTUS or VP

They know it and are scared.

[yuiyoshida]

111. Gosh, I hope so!

... I would love too see a Harris/Booker ticket... or even Harris/Warren ticket...

[Atticus]

113. Thank you for refusing to be intimidated. We need all the yuiyoshidas we can get! nt

[yuiyoshida]

148. oh you are sweet... thanks

[Galraedia]

128. Pfft. Please. This is Hillary Clinton all over again.

Kamala Harris is the right-center establishment choice. Progressives want Bernie Sanders because he's progressive. The establishment wants Kamala Harris for the sake of having a woman as the nominee.

[Gothmog]

129. The attorney in the bogus DNC fraud lawsuit

Link to tweet

?s=20

[BigOleDummy]

133. Well, ...

… I'm rooting for Elizabeth Warren as I think she's the right person for the job. BUT if Ms. Harris gets the nomination she'll be getting my vote and in the meantime I can think of no reason at all why I, or anyone else for that matter, should say bad things about Ms. Harris or any other Dem. candidate.

[Roy Rolling]

145. LISTEN UP!

I think Kamala Harris could make a strong and effective President. But NOT because she is a poor victim of trolls. Victims are WEAK.

Playing the victim card is a short-term emotional strategy, a long-term losing policy strategy.

Sure, it worked for Republicans.

For a while...

[yuiyoshida]

149. I haven't seen her respond to trolls as yet...

only to her base...which is steadily growing... here in California! And, she is a strong candidate!

[Gothmog]

152. The two attorneys suing the DNC on behalf of sanders supporters banned on Twitter

The husband and wife team of attorneys who are suing the DNC claiming fraud on behalf of some sanders supporters including a number of JPR posters were both banned on twitter for making really sick comments about Senator Harris

Link to tweet