Just wondering who is still here, posting or reading.

[texanwitch]

I am going to stay until the lights are turned off.

I didn't think anything was wrong with DU2 to begin with.

I have had to many deaths in my life in the last few years DU has always been there for me.

I will be there for DU2.

We need a good old fashion Wake, sit, talk, drink, eat a little and just hang out.

I will start, I will miss you DU2.

[PatrynXX]

1. I'm till here.

Kinda linked this address to my opera speed dial. Think I may have to compare DU2 to Windows XP. and if XP is anything to look at, people still have no intention of switching.

[James48]

2. bug

so far they have over 280 "bugs" reported in 3,

plus I just don't even recognize the place.

I'll just sweep up over here till they turn the lights out.

[Tx4obama]

26. You can change the VIEW settings over on DU3

from Standard to Classic. Classic has more of the old DU2 look to it.

Hope that helps.

[bahrbearian]

36. You must have a star to change settings,

didn't Skinner announce that there would be no more fund drives, but to have any influence we must now donate?

[GreenArrow]

58. I changed my setting to "classic view"

a couple of days ago; apparently any one could do that during the test. It's now reverted to the new interface. I won't be on there much anyway.

[trueblue2007]

89. i will be classic for sure.

[LWolf]

3. I'm wondering how to save my journal.

I keep coming over thinking to copy it, somehow, but copying it won't save the links that show everyone's replies.

[rpannier]

5. That's one of my concerns as well

I have stuff in my journals that I want to keep -- all of it

[PatrynXX]

11. don't think this would work

on a password protected site but given permission one would wonder http://www.httrack.com/

I used this on uh... keep the kids out kindgirls.com and it backed up the entire site. totally crazy and it wasn't protected. had no idea...

[gateley]

12. WAIT! California Peggy didn't transfer it, she found a way to

link to it so I was mistaken in saying she figured it out. Skinner said there will be a way to do that anyway, right?

Good luck!

[rpannier]

14. Thanks

I will do that

[gateley]

18. No, wait! See my edited post! I think I led you down the wrong path!

[Tx4obama]

27. Everything will be archived on DU2, so you will still be able to access stuff

[PatrynXX]

32. lemme guess. probably uses HTTRACK as well :P

could be wrong.

[gateley]

7. There's a way to do it -- I think California Peggy figured it out, so

you might drop her a line.

EDIT: I went over and looked at her post, she found a way to LINK to it, but not transfer it. Sorry. :(

[NanceGreggs]

17. A tech savvy friend saved my Journal ...

... for me, complete with links to replies.

So it is do-able - I just don't know how it's done myself.

I read in the ATA forum that DU2 Journals will eventually be accessible through DU3. It's unfortunate that Skinner didn't "pin" the many responses to questions in ATA about such changes, so that all DUers would know what was going on.

[LWolf]

84. I'm not tech savvy enough for that, myself.

I wonder if a tech savvy person could post a "saving journals for dummies" list of steps. ;)

I'm glad to hear that there are eventual plans; I DID look for that question, and found a bunch, but none with a clear answer.

[rpannier]

4. still here

[GreenPartyVoter]

6. I've been popping in

[demodonkey]

8. I'm still here.

I am trying to start using DU3, but given the fact that my mother (and best friend) was killed recently I am in a very precarious position at the moment with no help. I don't need any more upheaval in my life right now, even if it is a little thing like upheaval at DU.

So I will keep reading and posting here until the lights go out.

[texanwitch]

16. Sorry to hear about your MoM.

I lost both parents so I really understand how you feel.

I wish DU2 could be left alone for awhile.

I will miss the old format.

[demodonkey]

22. Thank you... I miss her terribly, especially right now at this time of year.

Here is her obit and story, if you are interested...

http://tinyurl.com/MerleK

She was killed in August because of a terrible accident with a shower chair.

I am sorry about your parents. :hug:

[texanwitch]

23. It get eastier with time.

Your Mom is part of you, always.

I visit a nursing home so I have lots of Moms and Dads now.

[demodonkey]

31. Thank you...

I know that time will make things better, assuming I get that time... There are other problems, bad ones, I won't go into here.

But thank you.

[texanwitch]

33. Life can be so hard to handle sometimes.

DU was always there if I needed a break from the real world.

I normally post in the Lounge but I did start in GD.

Wish I could give you a big hug over the computer.

This will have to do.

:hug: :hug: :hug:

[Mist]

80. Your mother was a neat lady! Involved and concerned with the important

things. I love that picture of her with her paper ballots sign. I'm sorry for your loss--you must miss her tremendously. And this first Christmas without her will be tough. Hang in there. I lost my father back in '03, and still miss him tremendously.

[astral]

82. My heart goes out to you.

I lost a family member this summer after a long illness and a bad last two years. I am unable to allow the grief to come out much as it is too overwhelming and I just sit here at home alot and I admit I distract myself from dealing with anything by just going online alot. I know what you mean about not being able to handle anything else happening for awhile. I had an unexpected car accident too very recently and now I have to wonder what to pay for and not to pay for this month, and it is interesting I find it hard to really care that much about what happens next or what to do next.

I know how you feel.

[gateley]

9. I'm back and forth. I'm acclimating myself little by little over there,

but feel a big "ahhhhh" when I come back here.

[PatrynXX]

20. kinda like switching to vista

but going back to xp was ahhh until I figured out Vista crashed less. but still XP views vids better than Vista..

[Blue_In_AK]

10. I didn't know we could still access this site.

Unmoderated now, too, is it?

Let the games begin. :party: :party:

[rpannier]

15. [phone] 000 000 000

[texanwitch]

19. Yep.

Safe to mention fried chicken, no matter how you cook it.

[DLnyc]

13. Still kicking around

I have a fondness for old things, in general.

[AnotherDreamWeaver]

21. I'm a Greatest Page addict and afraid of withdrawals....

So I see your GD post there.

[Tx4obama]

30. There is a "Most Rec'd" page on DU3

You can click on Latest Threads, then Most Rec'd

Here's a direct link to the Most Rec'd page.

Hope that helps with your withdrawals ;)

[AnotherDreamWeaver]

87. I've been there, but it isn't the same

I think it will be harder to see the best posts from several forums. I spend way too much time reading DU as it is, but where else to get news? I don't want to go wandering in and out of the many forums.

[Pooka Fey]

91. + 1. Me too.

[quinnox]

24. I'm still here, as usual

I have been at DU3 though as well, its not like I'm boycotting the place.

I just like DU2 better and I'm also a real stubborn bastard!

[PatrynXX]

65. ditto n/t

[elocs]

25. I'm still here and I also did not think DU2 was broke, or so broke it needed to be trashed.

But evidently we are just a small minority here.

[texanwitch]

28. It is isn't that I dislike new things because I don't.

This format is easy to use for everyone.

DU3 is very busy.

I can handle it but we have older people here who many not be able to.

If it isn't broke, don't fix it.

[elocs]

34. I don't dislike new things either because they are new,

but the new DU3 to me just seems to be trying too hard to be like other message boards and link to social networking. To my tastes it just seems to be too smarmy forcing us into communities with hosts and juries and all that.

I can see cliques and bullying developing and those with an unpopular viewpoint will get forced out or be silenced.

[texanwitch]

35. I don't like the thing about juries and I can see the cliques coming.

Let the bullying begin.

[elocs]

83. Exactly. A good way to silence less popular posters or those with less popular ideas. n/t

[truedelphi]

40. The most favorite comment I saw by a fellow DU'er about

The new version is that it carefully followed the number one rule for website creation -

If it ain't broken, then break it!

Had to laugh - I hung out a lot in Silicon Valley back in the days when Apple was getting off the ground, Atari provided the first gaming stuff for personal computers. And that rule got followed often then too.

[unionworks]

29. K&R

I'll keep checking in till the lights go out. :-)

[robinlynne]

37. hi. cant get the Du fix on the new one. I'm here.

[texanwitch]

38. Lots of bugs to work out.

We will keep the light on for all who need to visit.

[MelissaB]

39. Me either.

I read more than post now days, but still... I don't like the feel of it.

[texanwitch]

41. DU3 is so busy.

I did figure it out but DU2 is more homey feeling.

[NYC_SKP]

42. I'm still here, just for kicks, and because I'm unwilling to stop wielding power.

:rofl:

That last part, just kidding!

:hi:

[texanwitch]

43. We have no mods here.

Think about that.

[NYC_SKP]

51. It's better that way, without mods...

A society without differentiated power, without classes.

My post was an inside joke, which upon reflection was impolite of me.

:thumbsup:

[hootinholler]

46. I bet you drive a Dodge too! n/t

[Enthusiast]

44. I have no choice.

I still can't even get a glimpse of DU3. I've purged my computer of all cookies and such to no avail. Apparently I have been banned. I suspect I have been banned because I get no response from the administrators.

Anyway, DU has been very important in my life. It doesn't seem like much but for the most part I am shut-in. I'll seek out alternatives.

[texanwitch]

45. DU3 seems so unfriendly and cold.

DU2 felt so friendly.

I will look around for something more friendly.

I will still check in to check out the news but damn it doesn't feel the same.

[JanMichael]

47. no, it doesn't

I went to one of my favorite groups...didn't recognize hardly anyone. And that is Day 1.

[texanwitch]

49. The jury thing will hurt more people.

I have never heard of such a thing.

[hootinholler]

48. What do you see when you go to democraticunderground.com? n/t

[Enthusiast]

59. A blank page.

Nothing.

[inna]

52. You were not banned; you would not have been able to access DU2!

When contacting admins, be sure to use their emails (for all 3 of them) rather than simply PM'ing Skinner.

Don't PM from DU2 because it is officially "obsolete" and no longer supported by the admins; they probably won't even read their DU2 PMs!

Good luck!

[Enthusiast]

56. Thanks, inna.

But see, I cannot even get to DU3-period. Therefore I must use DU2. And I asked the admins why I could not preview DU3 well before today -these questions were ignored.

I donated. If I am tombstoned the least they could do is let me know.

[countryjake]

62. Enthusiast, you couldn't be tombstoned...

you'd not still be able to post over here, if you were.

As a former fellow-Ohioan, I tried to help you early this morning by posting about your difficulties over in the "Help and Meta-discussion Forum". Then dixiegrrrrl began an entirely new thread on there, an SOS for you, trying to alert the Admin. that you're stuck over here. I'll go over and see if there's been any response on it, right now.

[Enthusiast]

68. Thank you, Jake.

All I get is a blank page.

[countryjake]

73. I found the SOS thread and kicked it back up top...

I know that EarlG was just posting in that forum not long ago, so hopefully he (or somebody else) will see it and get over here to see what the heck is going on with your account.

[Enthusiast]

75. Thanks, brother.....nt

[countryjake]

98. Sister, here...hey, I hope you let us know once you get in at DU3!

I now know of at least five of us who are prowling back and forth between the two sites, trying to get some help for you. I've sent you a message on here with email addys, too, so check your inbox.

[inna]

100. "Therefore I must use DU2" (as in, for PMs) - nope, actually that was my main point! :)

What I was trying to say was, use regular email instead of DU PMs:

i.e., email them at following addresses:

[email protected]

[email protected]


That is.... just in case if you still can't log on to DU3... hopefully, that problem has been resolved by now! :hi:

[bikebloke]

50. Going back and forth

This looks better. I guess I'll keep coming back here until they turn the lights out.

[inna]

53. I went over there and posted a couple of posts, and... I still don't like it. :(

Will miss DU2, too!

Thank you for this thread.

[Leopolds Ghost]

54. I'm still here

One of my first posts was jury'd. OK, it was a dickish post, but the site feels so goddamn institutional and PC.

[Justitia]

55. I'm always the last one to leave a party! DU3 format literally stabs my eyeballs.

So, I'll be here until this place no longer functions.

Not only does the new site give me a major migraine, it is byzantine beyond belief.

And, oh, the whole 'juries/blacklist/host free-for-all' is a serious clusterfuck.

Occupy DU2 :party:

[texanwitch]

61. The design is crazy

The new blue color hurts my eyes, or the font.

A little goes a long way, this is true in web design.

I wonder how long the jury/host thing will last.

I will be checking DU3 to find out, just for fun.

[LongTomH]

57. I guess this is as good a place as any to raise a final glass in tribute!

DU2 we hardly knew ye!:toast:

Seems like we ought to have a bagpiper playing "Amazing Grace" or "Danny Boy." Something appropriate for a wake.

I really feel like a good cry right now!:cry:

[texanwitch]

64. Amazing Grace playd by bagpipers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkaV_5wSsKE&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDL6-GZ3npg

[LongTomH]

71. Thank you for posting this!

My late sweetheart, Jeanne, disliked "Amazing Grace", especially the line about "saved a wretch like me." She was very devout; but, she said that wasn't her image of God and our relation to Him. I agreed (I'm not really conventionally religious); but, I know it's a beautiful melody that's given so much comfort to so many people.

"Danny Boy" was the tune played by a bagpiper as Jeanne's brother Tony was carried to his final rest.

There was a jazz combo, with a saxophone and drum at Jeanne's graveside; she so loved jazz and blues.

I think you can see, Jeanne and Tony were both special people. I hope they're in a place where the best musicians play!

[newspeak]

81. got to take it into context

the "save a wretch like me"--the hymn was written by a man who was a captain of a slave ship who had an epiphany of his cruel wrongdoing to other humans. Spent the rest of his life in atonement.

[Canuckistanian]

60. I am.

Started in 2002 and I'll be dragged kicking and screaming from this place.

But of course, I'll still go.

[Budgies Revenge]

63. still here lurking

I've been around for a long time--I just don't post much. :smoke:

[Renew Deal]

66. Still hanging around

I'm one of those that will need an eviction notice. I've been to DU3 today and posted some, but I'm still around. :hi:

[DesertFlower]

67. me too. nt

[slipslidingaway]

69. Me, the greatest page still works here ...

even sorting by most rec'd you keep seeing so many of the same threads.

:(

[countryjake]

70. Some of us began that wake during the wee hours of the morning, already...

I sat up all night last night, copying and collecting private messages (mostly from a bunch of DUers who are no longer with us), bawling over their untimely passings and laughing at some of the hilarious exchanges I'd had with them, whilst at the same time keeping up with the party happening on General Discussion. I still want to get some of my oft-used Bookmarks out of here, for future reference, and also the links to many of my favorite DUers Journal entries. It hasn't been stated clearly yet, over on DU3, whether or not all of those hard-researched topics will remain accessible to us or not, so I'd rather be safe than sorry.

Anyway, I've been up all day, too, and currently have my eyeballs propped open with toothpicks, but hope to be able to finally sign off of here knowing that nothing of value has been left to fade away under the footprints of progress.

Did I hear bagpipes?

[texanwitch]

72. Yes.

I love bagpipes.

[texanwitch]

78. I had to go to bed last night, work to do today.

I was a little sad today thinking about this site going away.

It was fun while it lasted.

Lots of good people here.

[Sinistrous]

74. Still here using the good stuff.

DU3 is certainly a child of the times -- reduced quality at a higher price.

[woo me with science]

76. Saying hi.

Nice post.

[BigBearJohn]

77. I think they should wait at least until the holidays are over.

DU2 is like home.

[Tx4obama]

79. The 'new' DU3 Home Page has been added the new website - link below

New Home Page: http://www.democraticunderground.com/index.php

[spartan61]

85. I'm here. DU2 is still my first choice.

I go over to"3" when I feel the need to read more posts after I read those that interest me on "2." Glad to see I'm not alone here.

[Duppers]

86. Here too.

Reading every day.

[trueblue2007]

88. i don't think there is ANYTHING WRONG with DU2 eiher

i wish we didn't have to move. i am so satisfied with this place

[Pooka Fey]

90. I don't understand why DU2 is being shut down. :-(

I have so many posters that I really enjoy seeing here on DU2. I don't like the DU3 format. Rats. :-(

[Cronus Protagonist]

92. DU3 is the "monetized" version of DU

I'm not into it myself, but maybe it's fine for casual users who have jobs and cash on hand to pay for its expensive usage fees.

[Raine]

93. I'm staying and posting here for as long as I can.

I don't like the "transparency" of DU3, I can't express myself the way I want.

[theophilus]

94. I am exploring the new and haunting the old. n/t

[elocs]

95. A kick for those of us still here on Monday night. n/t

[some guy]

96. I'll stay here till the lights go out.

I didn't make it even a full day at DU3 before I said fuck it. Too totalitarian for me. One "host" can lock a thread, then no one else can unlock it. At least here, mods had to reach some sort of consensus.

:hi:

[riderinthestorm]

97. I'm still here because I just by habit clicked on my saved GD tab on the laptop

which is where I always start and voila! It took me here!!

I haven't had much chance to get to DU3 - been too busy this past weekend but since DU2 is still trundling along, I think I'll stay awhile and make the transition slower.

:toast: :party: Party on for those of us who always stay til last call!

[me b zola]

99. I'm here

Kind of melancholy

[countryjake]

101. kickety

.