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Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
26. I understand these issues and I think this case isn't as clear as you imply.
Sun Jun 28, 2015, 04:43 PM
Jun 2015

First, I agree with your general point that the right-wingers frequently misuse "Democrat" where "Democratic" would be correct, that they do so deliberately for its political effect, and that it should be called out.

As to my level of understanding, I've helped get the correct information out there by editing the Wikkipedia article on the subject. (For those who don't want to bother clicking through: There's a separate article on the Democratic Party. I've linked to the article that's specifically about the "Democrat Party" solecism.)

Now, as to this instance: English, unlike some other languages, allows a construction in which two or more nouns are rammed together. It has a technical name that I forget. As an example, the body that governs world chess is known even in English as FIDE, from its French name, Fédération Internationale des Échecs. The English translation is World Chess Federation. In French, however, you can't just put three nouns in a row like that, so it's noun-adjective-prepositional-phrase. Similarly, DU is a message board or an Internet forum.

Turning (finally) to McCaskill, she is, individually, a Democrat, just as she is a woman. You could call her a female Senator (adjective-noun) but you could also call her a woman Senator or a Missouri Senator (each a noun-noun construction). By analogy, I think "Democrat Senator" is acceptable, even though "Democrat Party" or "Democrat caucus" or the like is not.

ETA: After posting this I finally noticed that randys1 had been blocked and couldn't respond. For the record, I don't agree with randys1 on the substance, and I agree that his/her tone was unnecessarily combative, but I don't agree with the block, either.

You mean the wording "Democrat Senator" instead of Democratic? randys1 Jun 2015 #1
I didn't hear a "Democrat Senator". What I did hear Autumn Jun 2015 #2
Right there on the video DEMOCRAT senator (not in the video, typed on it) randys1 Jun 2015 #3
Okay, intentional by who? I thought Claire"s bullshit was intentionally Autumn Jun 2015 #6
The words on the top of the video "Democrat Senator" was the offending part to you? Autumn Jun 2015 #4
JOe McCarthy's idea, did you KNOW that randys1 Jun 2015 #7
A person posts a video of a nasty attack on Bernie Sanders Autumn Jun 2015 #10
Should be DINO Senator PowerToThePeople Jun 2015 #5
"Democrat Senator" might just be right, from the things she said in that interview it doesn't sound Autumn Jun 2015 #8
In this usage Democrat is acceptable hootinholler Jun 2015 #11
wrong, never say Democrat Senator, ALWAYS say Democratic Senator randys1 Jun 2015 #13
I think either way in this instance is fine. No reason to argue with other Autumn Jun 2015 #14
... randys1 Jun 2015 #15
You know what? the message is what is important, not the words used Autumn Jun 2015 #16
This has nothing to do with that message, STOP using RIGHTWING terminology and ALWAYS call it out randys1 Jun 2015 #17
How about YOU stop berating people because they don't see things through your lens. Autumn Jun 2015 #18
NOT MY LENS, never mind, this proves it for me..no point in discussing it any further randys1 Jun 2015 #19
If you go off on anyone in this group because you don't like what they say or how they say it Autumn Jun 2015 #21
BLOCK ME NOW, I am done randys1 Jun 2015 #23
Okay you are blocked. Autumn Jun 2015 #24
Thank you azmom Jun 2015 #27
I understand these issues and I think this case isn't as clear as you imply. Jim Lane Jun 2015 #26
In Claire's case I would not call her a Democratic Senator. Because there is nothing democratic sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #20
Yes, but that has nothing to do with this, does it. I really am now wondering who is really who on randys1 Jun 2015 #22
except in this case you are arguing about something marym625 Jun 2015 #25
Check it out.... daleanime Jun 2015 #9
boring Clare very boring.... olddots Jun 2015 #12
Bernie wants Medicare for all, just like about 100 House members who sponsored HR 676 merrily Jun 2015 #28
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