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Proud liberal 80

(4,167 posts) Sat Nov 10, 2012, 01:49 PM Nov 2012

I am convinced that Ohio was stolen from Kerry in 2004 [View all]

I say that because of how confident Rove and the Romney camp felt on election night even though the polls were saying something else. Like they knew that the OH Sec of State was going to deliver the victory as another Republican Sec of State did in 2004 despite the polls. And when all the networks called OH for Obama they were shocked and that is why Rove went on his rant and Romney waited to concede. They were shocked because it worked in 2004 and they thought they were going to get away with it again.

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I am convinced that Ohio was stolen from Kerry in 2004 [View all] Proud liberal 80 Nov 2012 OP

just now? hollysmom Nov 2012 #1

No I always knew Proud liberal 80 Nov 2012 #2

There you go! hollysmom Nov 2012 #3

Have you heard of Mike Connell ? vt_native Nov 2012 #4

I found an interesting website ailsagirl Nov 2012 #23

Oh bullshit Coyotl Nov 2012 #27

They have not fairly won an election marlakay Nov 2012 #5

Our only defense it to outvote them by 15%. DCKit Nov 2012 #7

Way before that. EC Nov 2012 #8

Even that was won with a despicable dishonest campaign against karynnj Nov 2012 #10

+1 AndrewP Nov 2012 #16

I like Mike! always... Divine Discontent Nov 2012 #31

Exactly! eom BlueMTexpat Nov 2012 #32

Ohio was stolen.... Tippy Nov 2012 #6

Interesting ... from your article back in 2004 ... doublethink Nov 2012 #11

I knew about the patches about two weeks before the election Tippy Nov 2012 #12

Haven't been to the BBV site since probably 2004. :) doublethink Nov 2012 #17

I would say it is very interesting stuff..I put my tin foil hat away Tippy Nov 2012 #25

I had kind of a 'epiphany' earlier today ... doublethink Nov 2012 #39

The plot thickens....:) but could be closer to the truth than we think Tippy Nov 2012 #42

Oh bullshit Coyotl Nov 2012 #28

Right on, right on, right on! Tutonic Nov 2012 #9

me too limpyhobbler Nov 2012 #13

The ohio Democratic Party wasn't worried about the patch... brooklynite Nov 2012 #14

Whether democratic party was worried or not, OH should not be installing experimental LisaL Nov 2012 #15

Tough to say democrattotheend Nov 2012 #18

Agree! stevend56 Nov 2012 #21

Tiny edit: 'plane crash,' not 'place crash' ailsagirl Nov 2012 #24

Ohio 2004 was mostly punch card voting, yet the machines stole the election Coyotl Nov 2012 #29

Ditto on your entire post. Phx_Dem Nov 2012 #19

It was voter suppression, not machine shenanigans RomneyLies Nov 2012 #20

Thanks for a refreshing bit of sanity... brooklynite Nov 2012 #22

I've agreed with you since 2004, after reading the Greg Palast article Rhiannon12866 Nov 2012 #26

I am convinced that Ohio was stolen from Kerry in 2004 because of the statistics Coyotl Nov 2012 #30

The bottom line is the voting machines need to be fixed UCmeNdc Nov 2012 #33

of course MFM008 Nov 2012 #34

me too! blue cat Nov 2012 #35

I'd like to find a compelling and organized resource of information jimlup Nov 2012 #36

DU has a lot of information in the archives, including the minute by minute developments post 2004 Coyotl Nov 2012 #37

Thanks jimlup Nov 2012 #44

2000 and 2004 Carolina Nov 2012 #38

So am I, and so is RFK Jr., who says 357,000+ voters in Ohio, allrevvedup Nov 2012 #40

Well, let's see who the players were DFW Nov 2012 #41

It's been 8 years, let the dream go.... lol nt cecilfirefox Nov 2012 #43

One basic problem with this Awsi Dooger Nov 2012 #45