2016 Postmortem

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts) Mon Mar 28, 2016, 01:29 PM Mar 2016

Bernie was more welcoming to a bird on his podium than his wife by his side [View all]

There’s an awkward video of Bernie Sanders and Bernie’s interaction with his wife Jane Sanders that’s making the rounds, and it’s not a good look for Bernie. Senator Sanders was speaking in Madison, Wisconsin, when the “snub” against Jane happened. The Democratic presidential candidate spoke at a campaign stop on Saturday, March 26, with Bernie being exuberant over his recent victory — however, during that celebration, Sanders made a move against Jane that isn’t going down well over the Interwebs.

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As reported by the Blue Nation Review, Bernie was celebrating a great election night, but in the moment that Sanders was expressing his joy, video caught Sanders acknowledging Jane — on Bernie’s all-important right-hand side — but at the same time making a motion to wave Jane away when she stepped forward.

Bernie can be heard either telling Jane not to stand there or “don’t stand next to me,” with an arm movement that pushed Jane back gently, as if to instruct her that he didn’t want her standing there the whole time. It may have been an innocent instruction towards his wishes at the moment — but it’s not being received well online.

With Bernie’s wife, Jane, being held up as a woman who has long supported her husband, to see Bernie wave Jane away or tell his wife not to stand there is being interpreted as Bernie not wanting to share the spotlight with his “help mate” or right-hand woman. As expected, such a gesture is making people online react with fury.

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So, could Bernie waving away his wife become the awkward “Howard Dean scream” moment for Sanders? Time will tell, but reactions pouring into social media don’t bode well for “Birdie Sanders,” who is being accused of being more welcoming to a bird on his podium than his wife by his side, sharing a moment of victory.

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Bernie was more welcoming to a bird on his podium than his wife by his side [View all] Cali_Democrat Mar 2016 OP

Already debunked. Just another David Brock smear. Scuba Mar 2016 #1

What was debunked? The video is there for all to see Cali_Democrat Mar 2016 #4

how can you sleep at nights? ChairmanAgnostic Mar 2016 #12

I've often wondered the same thing. RufusTFirefly Mar 2016 #113

I have this wave machine Gomez163 Mar 2016 #159

Not a snub, a smear by the King of Smears, Hillary's guy David Brock ... Scuba Mar 2016 #13

It's an MSNBC video. David Brock has nothing to do with it. Cali_Democrat Mar 2016 #21

Paula gave credit to Brock's smear in her article, don't you read this trash before you post it? beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #24

It's a 20 second video of a campaign event Cali_Democrat Mar 2016 #27

That lying misogynistic scumbag was the one who "broke" the story and started this smear. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #33

MSNBC broke the story when they showed the campaign event on live television. Cali_Democrat Mar 2016 #36

Bullshit, his propaganda outlet put the story out there. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #40

Again....it was live footage from MSNBC. They showed Bernie's event live Cali_Democrat Mar 2016 #41

He was the one who alleged that Bernie mistreated his wife on stage, not MSNBC. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #43

It's a video. Saying someone has no credibility when they can watch a VIDEO R B Garr Mar 2016 #50

Nice try but anyone who sides with Brock and Mooney are no better than they are. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #55

Bernie and Jane Sanders were in the VIDEO. R B Garr Mar 2016 #57

Anyone who alleges that Bernie mistreats his wife is just as scummy as Brock. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #61

What's "scummy" is to twist someone's words and harass people here R B Garr Mar 2016 #74

No the allegations are scummy. And do you really want to bring up who treats his wife badly? beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #78

You are the one using the words about R B Garr Mar 2016 #134

Nope, that's all you guys, gasping in horror and gossiping about Bernie and Jane like church ladies. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #136

No, it's about you switching the subject because R B Garr Mar 2016 #142

He didn't post the video, he posted tabloid gossip about a Democratic candidate. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #143

The VIDEO was from a public campaign stop. R B Garr Mar 2016 #149

The op IS GOSSIP FROM A TABLOID AND IT'S PEARL CLUTCHING FODDER FOR CHURCH LADIES. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #152

The VIDEO shows what it shows. To one side, R B Garr Mar 2016 #196

The op isn't just GOSSIP it's the POUTRAGE du jour! ZOMG BERNIE ABUSES HIS WIFE!!! beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #198

LOL, yeah, I see what you mean!!! R B Garr Mar 2016 #202

It is!!! Post after post laughing at the gossipy faux scandal about teh EVUL BERNIE!!! beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #206

Yeah!!!!!!!! HILARIOUS!!! R B Garr Mar 2016 #211

Glad you have the patience. lt is all about personal attacks these days on DU. AgadorSparticus Mar 2016 #298

They are wishing and hoping so hard for a "Dean Scream" aren't they? iwillalwayswonderwhy Mar 2016 #230

You know, this coy, 'who, me?' shit from Hillary supporters really gets old. Marr Mar 2016 #130

Yeah .......... it's laughable, and has been for ........... forever. nt. polly7 Mar 2016 #151

Yeah, I'll put you down for Bernie coddling only. R B Garr Mar 2016 #197

how about this? Let's say its true. a small gesture. What about sending your wife out to lie that roguevalley Mar 2016 #112

I forgot about that, he did send her out to lie, didn't he? beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #120

yeah, he did. I remember being lit thinking about how stupid he let her look. roguevalley Mar 2016 #137

He humiliated her, I understand that it's her choice to stay with him but I wouldn't have. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #139

Bernie and Hillary are the candidates, not Bernie and Bill itsrobert Mar 2016 #157

When you bring spouses and the alleged mistreatment of them into play Bill is fair game. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #164

But Hillary hasn't mistreated Bill itsrobert Mar 2016 #169

Bernie never mistreated Jane, claiming he did exploits the issue of spousal abuse. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #171

You may have a valid argument if Bill was running for President itsrobert Mar 2016 #173

No but his SPOUSE is. If you want to question the state of a couple's marriage Bill is fair game. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #174

then leave Jane alone roguevalley Mar 2016 #192

Or Hillary sending her own daughter in front of the World to LIE for her. bvar22 Mar 2016 #296

Brock is now responsible for MSNBC showing footage of Bernie snubbing his wife? Cali_Democrat Mar 2016 #51

Bernie didn't snub his wife, that's Brock's own misogyny tainting his views on Bernie. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #58

It was a clear snub. nt Cali_Democrat Mar 2016 #66

NO, it wasn't. polly7 Mar 2016 #175

Are you and the other Clinton supporters so threatened choie Mar 2016 #190

And like I said before ...... it's a sick, abusive tactic in itself. polly7 Mar 2016 #184

It really is, the things they're saying about him here: "creepy", "disturbing", etc. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #188

Finally? Not the first time for this "Democrat" to show... dchill Mar 2016 #276

" Bernie snubbing his wife. " pangaia Mar 2016 #210

"jesus on a toothpick is that stupid.." beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #214

I was going to say on a popsicle but wasn't sure I could spell it.. pangaia Mar 2016 #220

Again debunked and apologized dr60omg Mar 2016 #238

Thank you. SusanCalvin Mar 2016 #265

I'm wondering if someone is keeping their eyes closed to avoid the truth? LiberalFighter Mar 2016 #53

And racist. I believe Anita Hill would agree. DisgustipatedinCA Mar 2016 #178

Yes, that too. But as long as he's doing Hillary's dirty work he's a hero! beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #181

Are you claiming not to know that Blue Nation Review is Brock's blog? Bohunk68 Mar 2016 #172

So many of them just make up their own stories. Showwwwwwwww fly riversedge Mar 2016 #336

She looked like her feelings were badly hurt. cwydro Mar 2016 #15

Bull shit, it did. pangaia Mar 2016 #213

You're clueless. nt cwydro Mar 2016 #229

Now you're playing Donald Trump's War on Wives game? You really wanna stoop to that level? lagomorph777 Mar 2016 #31

Of course, there is no limit to how low they will go. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #37

The source was MSNBC Gothmog Mar 2016 #119

The source was Brock's propaganda outlet. Quit blowing smoke, we know who started this. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #145

This is one of the dumbest fuck threads I have ever seen. pangaia Mar 2016 #216

This thread is priceless, have you read all of the replies? beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #219

I quit while I was ahead.. pangaia Mar 2016 #222

This is pretty much what I say in my post #246 below. He immediately tblue37 Mar 2016 #250

Ding, ding, ding....David Brock calling all his apostles Segami Mar 2016 #46

BULL SHIT, IT IS... pangaia Mar 2016 #204

EVERYTHING the whole story was debunked as a smear dr60omg Mar 2016 #239

No it is not clear unapatriciated Mar 2016 #285

I'm waiting too, we should keep this kicked. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #290

don't hold you breath unapatriciated Mar 2016 #292

Of course he did, even more reason to remind people of this. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #294

Do you know what that word means? KingFlorez Mar 2016 #18

I Hear That There Are 150 FBI Agents Investigating His Actions Here & He May Be Indicted...(sarcasm) global1 Mar 2016 #2

Looked like a pretty dick move to me (Don't Stand There), I guess he gets his way around the house snooper2 Mar 2016 #3

Something tells me the chores in their house are socialized. By which I mean, she does them all... CalvinballPro Mar 2016 #8

Something tells me anyone who thinks like that is probably projecting. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #26

Considering who worked and earned that cash KingFlorez Mar 2016 #32

Yeah, remember the People magazine article where Bernie was doing the laundry during their visit? jeff47 Mar 2016 #68

Yah and meanwhile at the Clinton household RANGERMAN89 Mar 2016 #128

"Get out of my chair" itsrobert Mar 2016 #160

One could say Bill got his... in the White House, the Governors mansion Autumn Mar 2016 #254

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2016 #5

He needed a safe zone for the arm waving Ash_F Mar 2016 #6

LOL! And there you have it, folks. Nt JudyM Mar 2016 #34

Is waving your arms now a bad thing? JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #86

'Course not! He's naturally very gesticulatively expressive, it's part of his communication. JudyM Mar 2016 #107

Haha! I'll bet that's it! RufusTFirefly Mar 2016 #121

Ex-fucking-actly pangaia Mar 2016 #218

Thanks for adding such substance to the debate Z_California Mar 2016 #7

Step 1, Ignore- Step 2, Change Subject- Step 3, Defend- Step 4, Justify- Step 5, Repeat Step 1 snooper2 Mar 2016 #10

I think Hillary and Donald are working together lagomorph777 Mar 2016 #76

OH! MY! GOD!! immoderate Mar 2016 #9

David Brock is really busy this morning nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #11

It's a video. cwydro Mar 2016 #19

Can you say angle? nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #20

The implications of spousal mistreatment are all Brock's. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #47

This pisses me off to no end to see Hillary supporters pushing this LIE that Bernie Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #110

Some would and many have been doing it since he announced. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #117

Thank you SwampG8r Mar 2016 #234

Thanks... Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #235

Yes, it is very creepy. Unsettling is a good word. R B Garr Mar 2016 #52

I agree...we need to get to the bottom of this...n/t asuhornets Mar 2016 #14

My god are you desperate. Nt Logical Mar 2016 #16

Troll bait... HumanityExperiment Mar 2016 #17

PAULA FUCKING MOONEY??? beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #22

You can title something anything you want. That doesn't change what was R B Garr Mar 2016 #56

PAULA FUCKING MOONEY! beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #63

BERNIE AND JANE SANDERS. VIDEO. R B Garr Mar 2016 #75

*watches video* CLUTCHES PEARLS, SCREAMS AND SWOONS!!! beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #83

You were insulting someones integrity here R B Garr Mar 2016 #138

He didn't post the video, he posted tabloid gossip about a Democratic candidate. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #141

The VIDEO was from a campaign stop. In public. R B Garr Mar 2016 #148

The op IS GOSSIP FROM A TABLOID AND THE HEADLINE WAS EDITED. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #150

Ahem mac56 Mar 2016 #23

I think we have to realize that there are some Hillary supporters who are only here CoffeeCat Mar 2016 #59

what a fucking stupid article ibegurpard Mar 2016 #25

This is just ridiculous marions ghost Mar 2016 #28

Just stop it. Doesn't make your side look good. Really. ThePhilosopher04 Mar 2016 #29

I saw it live & was disturbed by it but we don't know the backstory TheDormouse Mar 2016 #30

I'd be embarrassed to post this silly shit whatchamacallit Mar 2016 #35

I think armageddon is on the way seeing as how I agree with you. zappaman Mar 2016 #101

We probably agree about 40% of the time whatchamacallit Mar 2016 #105

I disagree with that. zappaman Mar 2016 #126

! whatchamacallit Mar 2016 #189

How many innocent Libyans, Syrians, Iraqis, and Hondurans died as a result? Karmadillo Mar 2016 #38

^^^^^^^^^^^^this^^^^^^^^^^^ JudyM Mar 2016 #87

Wow Cali_Dem, you've outdone yourself. floriduck Mar 2016 #39

Never interfere My Good Babushka Mar 2016 #42

Really? This is a new low. Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #44

Thanks Cali_Democrat Mar 2016 #54

Answer my question. floriduck Mar 2016 #60

Don't worry, you are floating just a milimeter or so above the open antisemitic posters and soon Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #108

Well said, every time Bernie has a good day they sink even lower. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #122

Picture the video. Now, picture PBO and Michelle instead of SBS and Jane. Do you see this happening? lunamagica Mar 2016 #45

In a Saturday Night Live sketch, yeah. Jamaal510 Mar 2016 #326

ROFLMAO - now you want to bring spouses into it LIKE REPUBLICANS DO? IdaBriggs Mar 2016 #48

Welcome to Trump style campaigning by the Clinton Camp! Use the wife to attack your opponent instead jillan Mar 2016 #49

Jury results... Agschmid Mar 2016 #62

haha, I have to laugh Agschmid CoffeeCat Mar 2016 #80

It is certainly ironic, I guess we cancelled each other out :) Agschmid Mar 2016 #84

Agschmid, the source is Blue Nation Review, David Brock's super PAC JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #98

Good grief. What a moronic assertion and post. NorthCarolina Mar 2016 #64

Pathetic attack on Bernie. grntuscarora Mar 2016 #65

I watched the video. He acted very rude and dismissive of his wife. DesertRat Mar 2016 #67

I love how people who think talking about Clinton's connection to wall street is a personal smear hollysmom Mar 2016 #69

Joel Benenson said today Hillary won't debate in NY until Bernie improved the tone of his campaign. JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #102

Wow. This is a truly pathetic post. Arugula Latte Mar 2016 #70

It's not a video that's awkward, it's this POST. cherokeeprogressive Mar 2016 #71

and barking like a dog was a good thing. unapatriciated Mar 2016 #72

If this is the best you've got to distract from Hillary's possible criminal indictment... Marr Mar 2016 #73

but but but bill always respects hillary lmao (blowjob) cough elehhhhna Mar 2016 #79

Yes and isn't that the OBVIOUS irony here? CoffeeCat Mar 2016 #94

Right??? I am so glad it wasn't hidden. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #96

From that same source "Indictment may be inevitable for Clinton. May not be able to campaign." Armstead Mar 2016 #77

Bernie was so rude to his wife for having her re-position on the stage. AZ Mike Mar 2016 #81

:D "so rude to his wife for having sex with an intern" renate Mar 2016 #153

Living in VT hasn't helped... People are pretty direct. glowing Mar 2016 #193

I don't think spousal disrespect is an issue the Clintons want to bring up. Philly-Union-Man Mar 2016 #82

^^^THAT RIGHT THERE^^^ beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #85

Heh. +1 n/t lumberjack_jeff Mar 2016 #95

Yep. They really don't want to go there. n/t TDale313 Mar 2016 #244

Bill was more welcoming to an intern in his office than his wife by his side. NorthCarolina Mar 2016 #88

Contact the BLUE nation review. They love DRESSing up the facts. JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #106

...no matter how much they Tripp over themselves. (n/t) SMC22307 Mar 2016 #267

Seriously? Nanjeanne Mar 2016 #89

He said, "Don't Stand There" , because that is where the next bird was supposed to land snooper2 Mar 2016 #131

EEEK! He's a sexist wife abuser and a (GASP!!) birdlover...not to mention, a Socialist!! Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #90

Oh my, I am just LOVING the responses to your op, Cali. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #91

Oh, for crying out loud! LAS14 Mar 2016 #92

Thanks for saying that. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #93

Now you are starting to piss me off. Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #97

Seems like zappaman Mar 2016 #99

Kind of sounds like the Hillary camp is trying to push the idea Sky Masterson Mar 2016 #100

LOL! Desperate much? mhatrw Mar 2016 #103

Just when you think only the (R)s are attacking spouses, Motown_Johnny Mar 2016 #104

You are seriously not embarassed about posting this? kiva Mar 2016 #109

The visual equivalent of the OP -- Shadowflash Mar 2016 #111

OMG Change has come Mar 2016 #305

LMAO! beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #337

What would the PR teams say if Bernie accidentally hit her in the face then? glinda Mar 2016 #114

I was just watching a video of their many appearances on the stage together, and tblue37 Mar 2016 #252

BTW, as a woman who raised her own two kids to adulthood, as well as helping raise 35 other kids tblue37 Mar 2016 #256

good observation glinda Mar 2016 #283

Ah the smell of rat fuckery and desperation in the morning. Sour grapes on the side. LOL morningfog Mar 2016 #115

disgusting OP JI7 Mar 2016 #116

Shame on you Cali Nightjock Mar 2016 #118

This is a distraction from the point that the Hillary camp is evading a debate in New York. RDANGELO Mar 2016 #123

The Clintoons come up with an ISSUE!!! FlatBaroque Mar 2016 #124

Do you smear? Yes, you do: a little birdie told me dr60omg Mar 2016 #125

NCRM apologized for the lie, instead of doubling down on it and screaming bigotry MisterP Mar 2016 #127

Wow, things are getting desperate at camp Clinton. Svafa Mar 2016 #129

So now we have this.. one_voice Mar 2016 #132

And you wonder why everyone thinks Clinton supporters are disgusting. nt nichomachus Mar 2016 #133

Your headline is stupid as shit, greyl Mar 2016 #135

You people really are shameless, aren't you? ljm2002 Mar 2016 #140

Blue. Nation. Review. The Clintons and their Lee Atwater-wannabee grow more desperate & dirty... AzDar Mar 2016 #144

I'll just leave this here - Hell Hath No Fury Mar 2016 #146

AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service nc4bo Mar 2016 #167

Almost embarrassed for you. Yet kind of happy to see your camp so desperate. nt. polly7 Mar 2016 #147

I'm happy to see most Hillary supporters know better. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #155

that is one of the most pathetic posts I have seen in my 12 or so years here rurallib Mar 2016 #156

I know .. it's like something a little gang of elementary school bullies would polly7 Mar 2016 #158

I am trying to steel myself to vote for Clinton in November if I have to rurallib Mar 2016 #161

worse--to them it's a clincher, something you can't come back from MisterP Mar 2016 #170

well i am still hoping i don't have to make that choice but questionseverything Mar 2016 #225

Really? This is what you've got? casperthegm Mar 2016 #154

C'mon folks, this will blow over in a day. Clinton gaffes are FOR-EVAH. ucrdem Mar 2016 #162

I saw that the blue dress had checked in but I don't believe that we've heard from the cigar! peace13 Mar 2016 #163

jesus fucking christ TransitJohn Mar 2016 #165

It is unfair to start calling Bernie a misogynist because of this one video. It is unclear... yawnmaster Mar 2016 #166

baseless smear of a desperate campaign that's losing the nomination amborin Mar 2016 #168

Baseless? There is Video... timlot Mar 2016 #180

Look melman Mar 2016 #282

Challenge: calculate the odds of me EVER voting for Hillary Clinton. DisgustipatedinCA Mar 2016 #176

He said that and Jane moved to the other side. So what? jillan Mar 2016 #177

Oh my god, I was afraid to watch the video... TeeYiYi Mar 2016 #179

Oh No!!!! Bjornsdotter Mar 2016 #182

David Brock must not remember the blue dress noiretextatique Mar 2016 #183

Are you sure you don't belong in the Cruz campaign? hellofromreddit Mar 2016 #185

Gee, i thought you were different. Cali the democrat wendylaroux Mar 2016 #186

wherever did you get that idea? ibegurpard Mar 2016 #208

she just seemed a little mellower. wendylaroux Mar 2016 #221

every time EdwardBernays Mar 2016 #187

No one cares, please leave their marriages alone. We are better than this. bettyellen Mar 2016 #191

Some of you are better than this tkmorris Mar 2016 #262

Most of us are. But with the bullshit that gets posted in GDP, people are fed up. bettyellen Mar 2016 #264

Blue Nation Review is a bottomless pit of bullshit Bucky Mar 2016 #194

Gosh, I hope their marriage isn't in trouble. frylock Mar 2016 #195

that is really the only rational response to this BS renate Mar 2016 #212

Now that's a good looking couple! Bernie should ask for marriage tips from them. JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #339

Wow. Hillary Bully Guard, salute. Kittycat Mar 2016 #199

I'm sure it was nothing Dem2 Mar 2016 #200

Some of Paula's other blockbuster "reporting" -- Hell Hath No Fury Mar 2016 #201

What an absolute fucking crock of shit.. pangaia Mar 2016 #203

Kitchen Sink time again, I see . Bill never ignored or insulted Hillary, Huh . Ever spent every orpupilofnature57 Mar 2016 #205

What's that smell? noretreatnosurrender Mar 2016 #207

Utterly bullshit headline. You should be ashamed. morningfog Mar 2016 #209

LOL. Apparently Bernie fans don't like this OP very much. DanTex Mar 2016 #215

Did I step in something ? TheFarS1de Mar 2016 #217

The recs list on this thread reads like a veritable who's who. I have to admit though... cherokeeprogressive Mar 2016 #223

I rarely look at those nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #224

Thanks for pointing that out iwillalwayswonderwhy Mar 2016 #233

K&R! hrmjustin Mar 2016 #226

This is actually a thing? deathrind Mar 2016 #227

But "a little bit nutty and a little bit slutty" is fine? Fuck David Brock and all he stands for. jfern Mar 2016 #228

And how often does Sec. Clinton let Pres. Clinton Ilsa Mar 2016 #231

'BlueNationReview' is now just as scummy as BREITBART! John Poet Mar 2016 #232

This message was self-deleted by its author cyberpj Mar 2016 #236

a lot of her fans were also fans of Melissa Click, Jackie Coakley, Crystal Mangum back MisterP Mar 2016 #245

Debunked and apology dr60omg Mar 2016 #237

in the game of marital relationships...i believe you will find... islandmkl Mar 2016 #240

Cool story bro. BeanMusical Mar 2016 #241

Are you and bravenak in the same contest? cui bono Mar 2016 #242

You are lowering this to a new low. How low can you go? rhett o rick Mar 2016 #243

Actually, considering the way he used his arms immediately afterward and the way he normally uses tblue37 Mar 2016 #246

Your last paragrahh, espcially, tells the straight truth. pangaia Mar 2016 #289

This message was self-deleted by its author Mother Of Four Mar 2016 #247

One could say a cigar is just a cigar, unless you use it for something else... Autumn Mar 2016 #248

Indeed In_The_Wind Mar 2016 #249

It ticks me off that people want to play this game, Autumn Mar 2016 #255

And, truly, it is a game to many. Remember Wag the Dog. In_The_Wind Mar 2016 #260

You can delete this now since it's on record as being incorrect. Link inside: cui bono Mar 2016 #251

After taking your post into consideration, I've come to the conclusion...... Cali_Democrat Mar 2016 #257

Of course you're letting it stand. cui bono Mar 2016 #258

... Cali_Democrat Mar 2016 #259

Here's a kiss Autumn Mar 2016 #261

Now THAT is a SNUB! beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #281

just pitiful G_j Mar 2016 #288

The video speaks for itself Gothmog Mar 2016 #295

The video speaks for itself. R B Garr Mar 2016 #269

How so? The site that had it up said they got it wrong. cui bono Mar 2016 #271

Ah, " the site says" R B Garr Mar 2016 #272

Where does it say that it's not Bernie and Jane? cui bono Mar 2016 #273

Talk about not making sense. R B Garr Mar 2016 #274

Again, where does it say it's not them in the video? cui bono Mar 2016 #275

Omg, read your post #251. R B Garr Mar 2016 #277

Again, where does it say it's not them in the video? cui bono Mar 2016 #278

Well. You said they got the video wrong. R B Garr Mar 2016 #279

So did I or they say that it wasn't Bernie or Jane in the video? cui bono Mar 2016 #284

The facts are in the video. The video speaks for itself. R B Garr Mar 2016 #293

What "tactic" am I taking? You stated something very odd that I'm trying to understand... cui bono Mar 2016 #300

LMAO! You are hilarious! This can't be for real. R B Garr Mar 2016 #301

Again, why do you think anyone is saying Bernie and Jane were not in the video? cui bono Mar 2016 #303

Aww, this is just a dishonest question. R B Garr Mar 2016 #304

Why is it dishonest? I'm not trying to be clever. I'm asking you a simple question. cui bono Mar 2016 #306

It's very dishonest. You are obviously just baiting R B Garr Mar 2016 #307

What are you talking about? I'm asking you a simple question. cui bono Mar 2016 #308

Read the thread. It's an obvious game you are playing. I even edited that post R B Garr Mar 2016 #309

Here you are in another thread playing the same confusion scam game. How dishonest. R B Garr Mar 2016 #310

More of your dishonesty. Read your post before it. Read the numbered posts. R B Garr Mar 2016 #311

Explain how its not obvious who is in the video. R B Garr Mar 2016 #312

Explain why your post 271 says the site got it wrong. Explain why you think I need a site to tell R B Garr Mar 2016 #313

Careful... you seem to be short circuiting! cui bono Mar 2016 #314

Talk about short circuiting. This is now 48 hours since that post and you still are playing R B Garr Mar 2016 #315

I'm not pretending you're confused about whose in the video. I never even said that. cui bono Mar 2016 #317

But it's obvious who is in the video. Right? R B Garr Mar 2016 #318

You don't need a website to tell you who is in the video? I hope not. cui bono Mar 2016 #319

Being sarcastic isn't misspeaking. You are just trying to complicate it to be hostile. R B Garr Mar 2016 #321

Hostile? Not at all. I was asking you the question long before you edited as you can see cui bono Mar 2016 #324

It's obvious it's them in the video, right? R B Garr Mar 2016 #325

Oh, and your methods and "talking points" seem familiar. Almost like they came from someone else... R B Garr Mar 2016 #316

I'm not using any talking points. Why are they familiar? Who do you think they came from? cui bono Mar 2016 #320

She's probably referring to me since she can never win a debate with me either. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #322

It's pretty weird. I love the constant projection. I really wanted to know why they thought someone cui bono Mar 2016 #331

Did you see our exchange upthread? One of the most bizarre things I've ever seen. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #333

I did not, but I might read it for some entertainment! cui bono Mar 2016 #335

This is over 48 hours now of this nonsense. R B Garr Mar 2016 #323

I agree! So answer the question and be done with it. cui bono Mar 2016 #328

But it's always been obvious it's Bernie and Jane in the video. Right? R B Garr Mar 2016 #329

That's not the issue, but if you want to think that's your 'graceful' out, then so be it. cui bono Mar 2016 #330

Yet my first post said the video speaks for itself. I don't need a website to tell me what I saw. R B Garr Mar 2016 #332

If you say so. cui bono Mar 2016 #334

As a Hillary supporter, I think folks are making a bit too much of this. Nye Bevan Mar 2016 #253

Let's have a debate about which candidate has a healthier marriage. You can start. Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 #263

Totally debunked. Apologize. 840high Mar 2016 #266

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2016 #268

I can't imagine Nancy ducking Ronnie's arms Mary Mac Mar 2016 #270

Even if there is video I can think of many credible explanations. Liberty Belle Mar 2016 #280

Hillary campaign is the one throwing mud. B Calm Mar 2016 #286

It's brown .... TheFarS1de Mar 2016 #287

David Brock is no better than Karl Rove. marmar Mar 2016 #291

A special link Just For You Cali! NorthCarolina Mar 2016 #297

You've hit a new low but I bet you are a big hit back at the Cave. rhett o rick Mar 2016 #299

she can't stand on that stage mark because his arm out, speaking gesture will hit her face. Sunlei Mar 2016 #302

LMAO! This debunked nonsense is still making the rounds. basselope Mar 2016 #327

Not exactly the best manners in the world Eko Mar 2016 #338