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ellisonz

(27,711 posts)
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 05:51 PM Dec 2012

Brady Campaign Sues Armslist In Killer's Online Gun Purchase [View all]

Posted: 12/12/2012 11:20 am EST | Updated: 12/12/2012 11:20 am EST

A jilted ex-boyfriend pumped a dozen bullets into the body of a museum curator last year. The shooter got a life sentence. The seller who illegally dealt him a .40-caliber handgun was sentenced to one year.

But that's not enough, said the family of the murdered woman and gun control advocates. They want to punish Armslist.com, a sort of Craigslist marketplace of firearm classified ads, claiming it enabled the seller and buyer to conduct the fated deal.

Ex-boyfriend Dmitry Smirnov killed Jitka Vesel in a Chicago suburb on April 13, 2011, after traveling to Washington state to buy a gun from Benedict Ladera, whom he'd found via Armslist.com. The deal was illegal because Washington outlaws gun sales to out-of-state residents. Smirnov, a 20-year-old Russian immigrant living in Canada, paid $200 extra so Ladera would look the other way.

"Armslist breached [its] duty by designing its website to encourage its users to circumvent existing gun laws," said the wrongful death lawsuit Vesel's brother Alex Vesely and the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence planned to file Wednesday in Chicago. "Users of Armslist.com could easily evade gun laws with a simple 'click of the mouse.' Armslist ... like Smirnov and the gun seller, must now be held accountable."

More: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/12/brady-campaign-armslist-gun-purchase_n_2279465.html


Do you think we need to better regulate the online gun bazaar?

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Yes. Of course. PDJane Dec 2012 #1
Du rec. Nt xchrom Dec 2012 #2
It looks like he easily evaded gun laws rrneck Dec 2012 #3
he violated federal law gejohnston Dec 2012 #4
Those shills at the Brady Campaign are going to lose. Clames Dec 2012 #5
So you support the online arms bazaar? ellisonz Dec 2012 #6
I support people engaging in legal intrastate trade. Clames Dec 2012 #7
Except that's not what's happening... ellisonz Dec 2012 #8
if the gun crosses state lines, gejohnston Dec 2012 #11
The ATF is dramatically underfunded. ellisonz Dec 2012 #13
I never changed the subject gejohnston Dec 2012 #16
It is, and that's wrong. krispos42 Dec 2012 #19
Thank You! ellisonz Dec 2012 #27
Effective enforcement of effective laws. krispos42 Dec 2012 #33
Underfunded? Clames Dec 2012 #23
To regulate how many guns and gun owners? ellisonz Dec 2012 #24
You are speaking completely for and of yourself. Clames Dec 2012 #25
I'm sure you've gone through the ATF budget line for line, right? ellisonz Dec 2012 #26
Still speaking for yourself. Clames Dec 2012 #30
"Go troll somewhere else." ellisonz Dec 2012 #35
I owe you nothing. L-O-L Clames Dec 2012 #15
how would be regulate it compared gejohnston Dec 2012 #9
"Armslist violated no law and is not responsible." ellisonz Dec 2012 #10
If they violated a federal gun law gejohnston Dec 2012 #12
"Shit, I could make a RICO case out of MAIG and their over abundance of felons." ellisonz Dec 2012 #14
just two of the worst gejohnston Dec 2012 #17
There is no bazaar to support. krispos42 Dec 2012 #18
Talking of shills Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #22
The press release on this is a sham and the suit has no basis in law ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #20
I purchase a lot of my firearms online. oneshooter Dec 2012 #21
Yes. Huge problem. Hope you're on a watch list. aquart Dec 2012 #29
Did you like watch lists when Bush and Cheney were running them? friendly_iconoclast Dec 2012 #31
No, I am not on any watch list. Your answer tells me what oneshooter Dec 2012 #32
My, my...we do love our fascist tactics when they suit our beliefs, don't we? Marengo Dec 2012 #34
Good. aquart Dec 2012 #28
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