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In reply to the discussion: Walmart is the largest firearms dealer in US; has roughly one-a-week firearms incidents [View all]gejohnston
(17,502 posts)142. you are not actually looking at the cause
You hate Wal Mart and you hate guns, so you look for examples to prove your preconceived opinion and ignore all other factors.
dealing in clothing, groceries, electronics, etc. is as welcoming of armed customers as WalMart is -- which is part of their encouragement to customers to buy guns, ammo, and related equipment. Come on in, wear your gun, buy something gun related.
so why don't Dicks, Cabelas, Bass Pro have these problems? They specialize in guns and sporting goods.
Other stores do not comparably market, and do not encourage or welcome people carrying the way Walmart does as a marketing strategy. It has to be apples to apples comparison -- and a convenience store just doesn't equate. They are not similar.
completly untrue. Wal Mart does not encourage. The others do not discourage. Kmart sells the same stuff. Target is a Macys wantabe.
You can bemoan it all you want as anecdotal, but when someone starts documenting a shooting incident a week, week after week, and they are not occurring at similar retailers, there is a distinct problem.
More than that, given the frequency of people who are armed in Walmart, the claim for people to conceal or open carry that it will reduce crime, and allow JoeQ average citizen to act long before law enforcement can arrive has not proven to be true.
It is Joe Q average who IS the problem, not the solution.
JoeQ CCW do not pretend to be cops. JoeQ are not the ones committing robberies. Using your logic, all gun owners are criminals or soon to be criminals. That broad brush not only hits good people left and right, but also include: Justice Kagan, Jerry Brown, Ed Shultz, Ted Strickland, Ron Kuby, Brian Schweitzer
It is Joe Q average who IS the problem, not the solution.
More people shoot and are shot at Walmart than at Target, (ironically) or other similar big box stores that do not sell guns on the scale that WalMart does and that do not encourage people to be armed in their stores.
Do you have any evidence that Wal Mart encourages to be armed more than anyone else? How about store and parking lot security? How many of these robberies etc are after midnight when comparable stores are closed? Only Wal Mart is open 24 hours a day.
You have yet to show me any chain of stores that has comparable problems with firearms.
You won't find any with comparable with non gun violent crimes either. Wal Mart leads in that because of poor security an being open 24 hours.
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Walmart is the largest firearms dealer in US; has roughly one-a-week firearms incidents [View all]
Dog Gone at Penigma
Nov 2012
OP
amazing the gun people seem to be on call 24/7/365 to respond to any anti-gun thread
graham4anything
Nov 2012
#5
You say "Nobody lies but the NRA." Sure they do. Many anti-gunners create false straw-men.
AnotherMcIntosh
Nov 2012
#76
Your backing of the confederate army/dixie flag on a different thread makes it all quite clear
graham4anything
Nov 2012
#74
I love that NRA soundbyte word "citation". Spent 8 years on a board with NRA folk using it.
graham4anything
Nov 2012
#85
link provided. You will see 2 posters names on this thread(its a long one) about the confederacy
graham4anything
Nov 2012
#90
100% amnesty and citizenship for all immediately. Just like President Lincoln did after the war.
graham4anything
Nov 2012
#94
You have not yet quoted my "backing of the confederate army/dixie flag on a different thread"....
PavePusher
Nov 2012
#111
the posts made by others are most certainly NOT defending the North and my President Lincoln
graham4anything
Nov 2012
#96
My young age? I sure wish that were true. Youth is wasted on the young as Ralph Kramden said
graham4anything
Nov 2012
#98
No, actually quite the opposite. You have your opinion, I will keep mind.
graham4anything
Nov 2012
#102
things have changed. Like the Whigs. Todays Dems are Yesterdays Repubs. (and vice versa).
graham4anything
Nov 2012
#107
And there is a Mayor Mike worshiper available at all times to incoherently jump into threads
ProgressiveProfessor
Nov 2012
#33
Before divvying up the "facts," this one stands out: I was responding to Graham4...
Eleanors38
Nov 2012
#188
What does a bank being robbed in a Wally World have to do with gun sales at that store?
oneshooter
Nov 2012
#3
it is possible for someone to buy a gun at the store, and then use it at the store for a robbery.
gejohnston
Nov 2012
#61
" If you don't want to DIE FASTER carry a weapon to protect yourself I do."
darkangel218
Nov 2012
#7
Real women & men walk away alive from a fight.Guns only inflate a situation.
graham4anything
Nov 2012
#12
The people were going to rob themselves? At gunpoint? Sounds like the sheriff
graham4anything
Nov 2012
#14
I just spent 2 weeks without electricity on a dark block and guess what?
graham4anything
Nov 2012
#18
electric came back on, and a few days ago cable/internet, but many still much worse off in NJ/NY
graham4anything
Nov 2012
#27
It was actually about racism and the movie a satire on the old west mentality
graham4anything
Nov 2012
#39
of course it did. Mel Brooks never keeps his movies to one single subject.
graham4anything
Nov 2012
#55
Ban young poor parents who can't afford to take their offspring anywhere better
slackmaster
Nov 2012
#47
WalMart was NOT complying with the requirements for proper gun sales
Dog Gone at Penigma
Nov 2012
#172
WalMart has a long history of corrupt practices, and should not be taken at face value
Dog Gone at Penigma
Nov 2012
#183
Interesting goal-post moving. You may want to let the rest of us catch up.....
PavePusher
Nov 2012
#186
You *had* to go and derail a perfectly good rant by doing the math.
friendly_iconoclast
Nov 2012
#73
except that most of the firearms accidents, injuries, and killings are not only aout bank robberies
Dog Gone at Penigma
Nov 2012
#134
nothing to do with being robbed more frequently or not; you appear to be deliberately missing it
Dog Gone at Penigma
Nov 2012
#114
Haven't figured out yet that 'anecdote' isn't synonymous with 'data' yet, have you?
friendly_iconoclast
Nov 2012
#117
Nothing to do with the fact they have 4,200+ stores in the US, eh?
friendly_iconoclast
Nov 2012
#123
Your post is like a frickin Henny Youngman punch line as far as data goes. Except Henny was funny.
DonP
Nov 2012
#119
That's not what it says on the blog. All posts are by "Baldr Odinson"...
friendly_iconoclast
Nov 2012
#128
Interesting; half of the OP is undeniable-the other half, unprovable.
friendly_iconoclast
Nov 2012
#130
Math is not your friend- this is "Concealed Carry Killers' redux...
friendly_iconoclast
Nov 2012
#137
They're the largest retailer in the US, they're going to have more crime than any other chain.
friendly_iconoclast
Nov 2012
#145
49 shootings at 4200+ Walmarts. That's about 1 for every 85 Walmarts.
friendly_iconoclast
Nov 2012
#155
Do YOU think this guy, whether a real cop or a rent a cop, should be shooting shoplifters?
Dog Gone at Penigma
Dec 2012
#199
they have a long list of law suits that they have settled, admitting guilt - notably the examples I
Dog Gone at Penigma
Dec 2012
#203