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Showing Original Post only (View all)Survivors of Jan. 8 aid gun controls [View all]
Tim Steller Arizona Daily Star | Posted: Friday, January 6, 2012 12:00 am
Seven survivors of the Jan. 8 mass shooting are lending their stories to the gun-control cause in a new video released Wednesday.
A group called Mayors Against Illegal Guns produced the video, which supports a bill, the Fix Gun Checks Act, that would increase the reach of the background checks required for some gun sales now.
"I'm going to work for this cause to hopefully keep other people from having to go through the horror we went through," survivor Mavy Stoddard says in the three-minute video's only mention of the gun-checks issue.
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That bill would require background checks for virtually all gun sales, even those between private individuals, not just those by licensed firearms dealers as currently mandated. It would also cut federal funding to states that do not adequately comply with reporting requirements.
Read more: http://azstarnet.com/news/local/cc3ce108-8a9d-5873-9f56-2ccd598805ec.html#ixzz1iiwfwDwp
Bill text: http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=s112-436
Do you support or oppose this bill? Do you think the victims of the Tucson shooting merit special consideration of their views? Would anything they say effect your views of the "gun control" debate? Do you think the Tucson shooting incident and the lack of any Congressional action to improve our gun control laws shows anything about the political dynamics involved?
I should add this so posters understand the reception they got in November from Senate Republicans:
Yet, two weeks later, he and his wife joined about 10 other survivors visiting congressional offices in Washington, D.C., part of a delegation representing Mayors Against Illegal Guns. Roger, a self-described liberal, says the mission was to change federal law by closing a perceived loophole that allows firearm purchases at gun shows without background checks.
"McCain and Kyl stood us up," he adds, referring bitterly to Arizona's two U.S. senators. (Republican Sens. John McCain and Jon Kyl did not respond to requests for comment.) Roger says the group was instead shunted to young legislative aides, including one who kept checking his watch as survivors told their stories: "You're just wrung out emotionally from talking to these guys and reliving it all," he says. "I've become a little more cynical."
The group also appeared at a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing on the proposed firearms bill. Roger says the ranking minority member, Sen. Charles Grassley, R-Iowa, focused instead on the Arizona gun-smuggling scandal known as Operation Fast and Furious and appeared to send text messages as shooting survivor Patricia Maisch gave emotional testimony.
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At one point during their Washington trip, Roger almost exploded with fury until Mavy Stoddard, another shooting victim, came to his side. "She says, 'Roger, I can tell you're really angry. You need to channel that. ... We need to make a little lemonade out of this big batch of lemons we got.' "
http://www.azcentral.com/12news/news/articles/2011/12/14/20111214tucson-shootings-couple-who-escaped-bullets-cant-escape-horrible-memories.html#ixzz1iXAk0jS0
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002119422
"McCain and Kyl stood us up," he adds, referring bitterly to Arizona's two U.S. senators. (Republican Sens. John McCain and Jon Kyl did not respond to requests for comment.) Roger says the group was instead shunted to young legislative aides, including one who kept checking his watch as survivors told their stories: "You're just wrung out emotionally from talking to these guys and reliving it all," he says. "I've become a little more cynical."
The group also appeared at a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing on the proposed firearms bill. Roger says the ranking minority member, Sen. Charles Grassley, R-Iowa, focused instead on the Arizona gun-smuggling scandal known as Operation Fast and Furious and appeared to send text messages as shooting survivor Patricia Maisch gave emotional testimony.
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At one point during their Washington trip, Roger almost exploded with fury until Mavy Stoddard, another shooting victim, came to his side. "She says, 'Roger, I can tell you're really angry. You need to channel that. ... We need to make a little lemonade out of this big batch of lemons we got.' "
http://www.azcentral.com/12news/news/articles/2011/12/14/20111214tucson-shootings-couple-who-escaped-bullets-cant-escape-horrible-memories.html#ixzz1iXAk0jS0
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002119422
Six people were killed in the attack; all but Christina-Taylor Green died at the scene of the shooting. The deceased are (in alphabetical order by surname):
Christina-Taylor Green, 9, of Tucson. Green was accompanied to the meeting by neighbor Susan Hileman.[38][112] Because her date of birth was September 11, 2001, she had appeared in the book Faces of Hope: Babies Born on 9/11 (page 41).She was the granddaughter of former Major League Baseball player and manager Dallas Green.
Dorothy "Dot" Morris, 76, a retired secretary from Oro Valley; wife of George, who was wounded.
John Roll, 63, chief judge of the U.S. District Court for Arizona, named to the federal bench by President George H. W. Bush in 1991.
Phyllis Schneck, 79, homemaker from Tucson.
Dorwan Stoddard, 76, retired construction worker, died from a gunshot wound to the head; his wife Mavy was wounded.
Gabriel "Gabe" Zimmerman, 30, community outreach director for Giffords, and a member of Giffords' staff since 2006. Mr. Zimmerman was the first Congressional staffer killed in the line of duty.
In addition to the six dead, thirteen other people were wounded by gunshot in the attack, while a fourteenth person was injured, but not by gunshot. Gabrielle Giffords and two other members of her staff were among the surviving gunshot victims.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Tucson_shooting#Victims
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"make sure people like Loughner are not left unreported, untreated and/or free to roam."
ellisonz
Jan 2012
#3
They may be of that opinion, but they're wrong. Loughner went through the NICS to get his guns.
friendly_iconoclast
Jan 2012
#6
Why don't *you* listen to the father of one of the victims, John Green?
friendly_iconoclast
Jan 2012
#45
That's from 2 days after the shooting. He practically breaks down crying on the phone
ellisonz
Jan 2012
#46
So some special pleading is more relevant than other special pleading?
friendly_iconoclast
Jan 2012
#56
You picked the wrong batch of victims, for the legislation you referred to.
AtheistCrusader
Jan 2012
#115
" If you wish to claim, I approve of a so-called "police state" then you clearly approve of...
PavePusher
Jan 2012
#58
Defining "high capacity" as "anything over 10 rounds" is very intentionally misleading.
benEzra
Jan 2012
#121
You refuse to look at evidence offered, but claim I "have no reasonable objection"
friendly_iconoclast
Jan 2012
#36
"Is it any wonder that Chicago attempts desperate measures when all allowed else fails?"
friendly_iconoclast
Jan 2012
#44
Looks like Chicago should have adopted Texas-style gun control years ago
friendly_iconoclast
Jan 2012
#55
The parents are the reason Loughner wasn't denied the purchase of a firearm.
AtheistCrusader
Jan 2012
#148
Spoken truly like someone who obviously knows nothing about the time n/t
We_Have_A_Problem
Jan 2012
#209
"...as the Attorney General may require..." Pheww. There goes the 5th. As usual. nt
SteveW
Jan 2012
#129
I've no doubt of Prof. Nowak's sincerity, but his proposals will fare as well as...
friendly_iconoclast
Jan 2012
#12
How would this new bill have stopped loughner, he went thru the background checks.
rl6214
Jan 2012
#19
Only cares about money? A LOT of NRA backed legislation was passed last year.
GreenStormCloud
Jan 2012
#71
LOL! You couldn't even make it through the first example without fabricating a quote!
DanTex
Jan 2012
#119
Suicides are 'gun violence'? Who knew! Are suicides by hanging 'rope violence'?
AtheistCrusader
Jan 2012
#110
Your failure to recognize the loss of liberty in most gun control laws is why you've been failing.
aikoaiko
Jan 2012
#62
Don't mean to freak you out, but new short barreled shotguns are already legal.
aikoaiko
Jan 2012
#98
It's called a trench coat. Willful denial on your part...just admit - it's shortened in many models.
ellisonz
Jan 2012
#174
Pistol grips provide a more ergonomic grip, and thus better control and safety.
PavePusher
Jan 2012
#102
When you spout off nonsense calling for a safety feature to be banned, you are not protecting the ri
AtheistCrusader
Jan 2012
#111
That's less than $0.25 per NRA member. Paul Helmke costs about $5 per BC member....
friendly_iconoclast
Jan 2012
#197
Shame on you! Don't you know that's the *wrong* kind of victim testimony?
friendly_iconoclast
Jan 2012
#72
I do not support this bill because it destroys firearm ownership anonymity.
Atypical Liberal
Jan 2012
#161