Wed Jan 4, 2012, 07:12 PM
Tucson Shooting: Couple who escaped the bullets can't escape the horrible memories of that day
The year following the Tucson-area shooting hasn't been easy for the Salzgebers, for whom the nightmare is all too fresh. Tom Tingle/The Arizona Republic By Dennis Wagner - Jan. 3, 2012 09:52 PM The Republic | azcentral.com Roger Salzgeber was not hit by bullets in the mass murder near Tucson a year ago, but he was wounded nevertheless. "Some days are better than others," says the 63-year-old retiree, who was among those who held down the shooter until police arrived. "I decided to just move on as best I can. But it's not going well. This is just really, really emotional for me." Salzgeber says he is haunted by anxiety, anger and cynicism since he and his wife, Faith, survived the Jan. 8 attack outside a supermarket. Six people were killed and 13 wounded at a meet-and-greet gathering for U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, D-Ariz., who is still recovering from brain injuries caused by a 9mm slug. ----------- When the shooting started that Saturday morning, the Salzgebers were fourth and fifth in line. They dove to the ground and somehow avoided being shot. Twelve months later, they cannot escape memories of the mayhem or a sense of survivor incredulity. Read more: http://www.azcentral.com/12news/news/articles/2011/12/14/20111214tucson-shootings-couple-who-escaped-bullets-cant-escape-horrible-memories.html#ixzz1iXAk0jS0 (Note to Mods: I think the upcoming 1 year mark from the shooting qualifies as "really big news." ) There are some pretty bad accounts of several Republican Senators behavior in regards to listening to them on gun control.
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 Tucson Shooting: Couple who escaped the bullets can't escape the horrible memories of that day (Original post) |
ellisonz | Jan 2012 | OP |
| hlthe2b | Jan 2012 | #1 | |
| ellisonz | Jan 2012 | #2 | |
| csziggy | Jan 2012 | #5 | |
| ellisonz | Jan 2012 | #6 | |
| csziggy | Jan 2012 | #7 | |
| ellisonz | Jan 2012 | #8 | |
| pinboy3niner | Jan 2012 | #15 | |
| ellisonz | Jan 2012 | #16 | |
| pinboy3niner | Jan 2012 | #17 | |
| ellisonz | Jan 2012 | #18 | |
| pinboy3niner | Jan 2012 | #19 | |
| ellisonz | Jan 2012 | #3 | |
| malaise | Jan 2012 | #4 | |
| ellisonz | Jan 2012 | #11 | |
| hfojvt | Jan 2012 | #9 | |
| ellisonz | Jan 2012 | #10 | |
| Missy Vixen | Jan 2012 | #12 | |
| pinboy3niner | Jan 2012 | #13 | |
| ellisonz | Jan 2012 | #14 |
Response to ellisonz (Original post)
Wed Jan 4, 2012, 07:28 PM
hlthe2b (98,805 posts)
1. Somehow it seems cruel to suggest they were "lucky"
Response to hlthe2b (Reply #1)
Wed Jan 4, 2012, 07:53 PM
2. Survivors guilt. - Mr. Salzberger is taking it really roughly.
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"Roger says his wife helps him through these rough spots, whispering to soothe frustrations, "She has this mantra: 'Act like Gabby would want you to act,' " he says. "It helps."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survivors_guilt#Survivor_syndrome i.e. PTSD.  |
Response to ellisonz (Reply #2)
Wed Jan 4, 2012, 09:49 PM
csziggy (34,018 posts)
5. Here is what is really cruel - to get assistance with therapy
Response to ellisonz (Reply #6)
Wed Jan 4, 2012, 11:31 PM
csziggy (34,018 posts)
7. But she was also affected by the incident
Response to csziggy (Reply #7)
Wed Jan 4, 2012, 11:43 PM
8. She seemed less affected from the article.
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At least capable of filling out the form for him - I mean she's family.
"A more useful thing to ask people applying for this kind of help would to ask how their lives have been affected." |
Response to ellisonz (Reply #8)
Wed Jan 11, 2012, 06:24 AM
15. If the caregiver is local, they should be able to do an oral intake
Response to pinboy3niner (Reply #15)
Wed Jan 11, 2012, 06:29 AM
16. Agreed.
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I think perhaps there's an issue of will on both their parts - he understandably doesn't want to come to terms with what happened that day and she doesn't want to push him too hard. Sad all around. I'm still shaken up by it; I can't imagine the pain those who were there that day went through, and continue to go through; we all have to get better. So much suffering in the world...
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Response to ellisonz (Reply #16)
Wed Jan 11, 2012, 06:41 AM
17. As a trauma survivor, I can understand that
Response to pinboy3niner (Reply #17)
Wed Jan 11, 2012, 06:59 AM
18. Glad to have you here!
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My Grandparents are Holocaust Survivors and as far as I can tell neither has ever come to terms with what happened...just sort of buried it; they refuse to talk about any personal specifics of the traumatic events. It's made for some interesting conversations. I think at a certain point easing up on the sort of grip trauma can have at you becomes necessary to negotiate with the world. They've been very lucky and I can tell my grandfather has leaned very heavily on my grandmother for the sort of support one needs to even begin to heal, a term which I use very loosely.
There's no running from it forever.  |
Response to ellisonz (Reply #18)
Wed Jan 11, 2012, 07:34 AM
19. We can run from it...but it's always there
Response to ellisonz (Original post)
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 09:49 PM
12. Kick and recommend
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All they did was go to the grocery store to talk with their Congresswoman.
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