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jimmy the one

(2,708 posts)
15. guns & whiskey
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 09:49 AM
Jan 2013

pipoman: There are millions of modern sporting rifles in private ownership...literally millions.

Same with cigarettes, cigars, & chewing tobaccos.

They are used extensively in competitive shooting sports all over the country.

So what? if you wanna shoot an assault rifle rent one at a controlled 'Assault Rifle Shooting Range'.
Or join a well regulated militia, like the nat gds, or the army or marine corps.

Every weekend within an hour or 2 of any place in this country there are many, many people shooting modern sporting rifles competitively and for entertainment.

I think your analogy needs work. What you say above could be maybe 10 shooting ranges (by air) involving maybe 20 people.
If you meant by car, well make it hundreds & thousands, but again who cares? who cares if some high minded gun enthusiasts 'love' to shoot assault rifles - lots of people 'love' to do hard drugs too, or drink & drive, or speed, or do nothing, or dominate others.
Who cares which gunnut put more bullet holes in a target of some despised gun grabber politician? the only thing most reasonable people care about is how far a wayward bullet can go when mis-shot from a target range.

This is without stating how many simple hunting rifles which have been used for generations are semi-automatic and have detachable magazines and/or thumb hole stocks. No, this one feature idea is DOA.

I asked people not to make this specious comparison. (weeping, weeping)

The AR platform has been the #1 selling rifle platform for 2 decades.

which is the leading whiskey brand? (followup, which hard liquor causes most cirrhosis of the liver?)

Feinstein revives assault-weapons ban [View all] SecularMotion Jan 2013 OP
As I've said before (and been called a liar for) krispos42 Jan 2013 #1
what good are they? jimmy the one Jan 2013 #4
There are millions pipoman Jan 2013 #9
guns & whiskey jimmy the one Jan 2013 #15
Enumerated civil rights/liberties.. pipoman Jan 2013 #16
"In common use". beevul Jan 2013 #49
hunting and sporting Duckhunter935 Jan 2013 #11
The legal ones are just as lethal as the "assault weapon" versions krispos42 Jan 2013 #12
I bet the Mini-14 is banned JohnnyBoots Jan 2013 #14
The Mini-14 tactical is on the ban list. Puha Ekapi Jan 2013 #65
norway bans rifle mags >3 rds jimmy the one Jan 2013 #19
That's the problem... krispos42 Jan 2013 #35
I'll speak to calibers and hunting... Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #36
.223 is not the only option for the AR-15 Pullo Jan 2013 #38
"sale or transfer of high-capacity gun clips containing more than 10 bullets were illegal in {USA} PoliticAverse Jan 2013 #51
Depends upon what you are hunting. Callisto32 Jan 2013 #68
So are we still paranoid? N/t clffrdjk Jan 2013 #50
What good are incandescent light bulbs, let's get rid of them PuffedMica Jan 2013 #66
simple workaround... remove pistol grip, and new barrel quadrature Jan 2013 #2
Ban us from a Congressional majority is more like it....nt virginia mountainman Jan 2013 #3
When does the public get to see the list of 150? JohnnyBoots Jan 2013 #5
Here it is... Yavapai Jan 2013 #74
Here we go again iiibbb Jan 2013 #6
Feeble... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2013 #33
Awaiting the definition of "assault weapon" pipoman Jan 2013 #7
SA with 'Detachable magazine PLUS 1 feature' is the 'norm'... jmg257 Jan 2013 #17
For collectors in NY the M1 Garand JohnnyBoots Jan 2013 #18
Don't agree, as the M1 doesn't have a 'detachable magazine'. jmg257 Jan 2013 #20
I thought that all mags, detatchable and non-detachable had to be retrofitted for 7 rounds. JohnnyBoots Jan 2013 #21
Exisitng legally owned mags/capacities of 10 rounds or less are legal, just can't jmg257 Jan 2013 #22
Who's on first? JohnnyBoots Jan 2013 #25
That whole 'contain more then...' was pretty clever way of 'slightly grandfathering', of course jmg257 Jan 2013 #26
Garands Straw Man Jan 2013 #59
Actually 7 rounds stay in pretty well. The 5 rounders are $10 at CTD. jmg257 Jan 2013 #60
Only if you hold them upright. Straw Man Jan 2013 #61
En bloc equaling detachable magazine would have to be a stretch... jmg257 Jan 2013 #62
I'm with you. Straw Man Jan 2013 #63
The more I find on en blocs & strippers, the more it seems they are jmg257 Jan 2013 #64
Really, the M1? Callisto32 Jan 2013 #69
She Oneka Jan 2013 #32
Yep - apparently little 'gems' like these .22lr & 9mm are now assault weapons... jmg257 Jan 2013 #8
As is my 3 generation old Remington #740 pipoman Jan 2013 #10
pipomans remington jimmy the one Jan 2013 #24
Except mine happens to have pipoman Jan 2013 #28
They would be far better off making a list of excluded weapons... iiibbb Jan 2013 #27
If they ban AR-15 by name, pipoman Jan 2013 #29
But what I am saying is that if Remington applies for a certification "US AWB approved" yadda yadda iiibbb Jan 2013 #30
I happen to like... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2013 #31
Looks just like my Remington 742 WoodsMaster 30-06 w/ 4 round detachable clip Ghost in the Machine Jan 2013 #73
That is ONE butt-ugly gun ... holdencaufield Jan 2013 #13
Ha - it can - from right under the barrel! nt jmg257 Jan 2013 #23
I think they actually have the Berretta up on the wall at the Feinstein presser. JohnnyBoots Jan 2013 #39
Man raidert05 Jan 2013 #54
Dead on arrival in the Senate hack89 Jan 2013 #34
This idiotic... Puha Ekapi Jan 2013 #37
I'm wondering... Puha Ekapi Jan 2013 #40
Reviving... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2013 #41
Looks like she left the NFA stuff out of this version Pullo Jan 2013 #42
Some new info - not the whole bill yet... jmg257 Jan 2013 #43
Some interesting points, though the exact wording will obviously be important... jmg257 Jan 2013 #46
Oh, Ima scared... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2013 #47
I hve a feeling she thinks "AR" stands for "Assault Rifle"... OneTenthofOnePercent Jan 2013 #48
MMM AR-7 Callisto32 Jan 2013 #70
I have an AT-22 iiibbb Jan 2013 #72
I am told that words don't matter in here. Who cares? Don't you care about the children? iiibbb Jan 2013 #71
I think the weapons ban is the wrong approach Floridaphatman Jan 2013 #44
I would make the limit 20 rounds gejohnston Jan 2013 #45
I've suggested that before. Straw Man Jan 2013 #57
I've proposed this a few times. The Magazine limit seems to come up repeatedly iiibbb Jan 2013 #67
Here's a gem of a quote from... Puha Ekapi Jan 2013 #52
I was trained Duckhunter935 Jan 2013 #53
Same here. Puha Ekapi Jan 2013 #55
I think this sums up guardian Jan 2013 #58
looks like our Olympic ISSF teams will have to train in Canada gejohnston Jan 2013 #56
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