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Orrex

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48. Rather than more Israelis dead...

Sun Jul 13, 2014, 08:30 PM

Jul 2014

Last edited Mon Jul 14, 2014, 12:40 PM - Edit history (1)

Can we possibly settle for fewer dead Palestinian civilians?

Or should Israel continue with the United States' famous "bombing their hearts and minds" policy?

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IAF Pilot calls off strike on Gaza target after spotting children nearby [View all] question everything Jul 2014 OP

THIS "knock on the roof" procedure? 1monster Jul 2014 #1

I for one applaud this change in policy Orrex Jul 2014 #2

No, the answer is that the terrorist org, Hamas, IronGate Jul 2014 #3

But until then, Israel should keep bombing Palestinian civilians? Orrex Jul 2014 #4

Well said. another_liberal Jul 2014 #11

Would you care to share with the class how long COLGATE4 Jul 2014 #12

How many Palestinian civilians do they get to kill before they're held responsible for it? Orrex Jul 2014 #14

That is the most specious argument I've heard today... PCIntern Jul 2014 #25

As opposed to the brave IDF bombing defenseless civilians. Comrade Grumpy Jul 2014 #31

It has 2 Recs, few are buying this propaganda. They will try again to make the pilots the victims. Fred Sanders Jul 2014 #34

^That Orrex Jul 2014 #39

Do you find it morally acceptable to bomb women and children to achieve a political goal? Orrex Jul 2014 #40

interesting melm00se Jul 2014 #63

You can't seriously see it as equivalent, can you? Orrex Jul 2014 #65

so if one has fewer options melm00se Jul 2014 #68

Again, do you see it as equivalent? Orrex Jul 2014 #73

Yep. I see no problem with convincing the citizens COLGATE4 Jul 2014 #67

Did we specifically bomb civilian targets in Afghanistan? Orrex Jul 2014 #69

No nation permits attacks against its population COLGATE4 Jul 2014 #71

Ergo, by your reasoning, Hamas is justified in its response Orrex Jul 2014 #72

Don't play games. I never used the term "stated intent". COLGATE4 Jul 2014 #74

Then you're setting up a straw man Orrex Jul 2014 #75

If they took the military measures that they should COLGATE4 Jul 2014 #79

I don't understand Orrex Jul 2014 #81

As long as they don't do much more than what they're COLGATE4 Jul 2014 #82

That's abominable Orrex Jul 2014 #83

Hamas can stop chucking rockets into Israel anytime it COLGATE4 Jul 2014 #84

The burden of restraint is on the greater military power Orrex Jul 2014 #86

To try and say that Hamas has shown COLGATE4 Jul 2014 #91

The attacks are not unprovoked Orrex Jul 2014 #94

Please point me to the legal source that COLGATE4 Jul 2014 #99

So you're of the "might makes right" mindset. Orrex Jul 2014 #103

I'm of the mindset that believes in "Show me". COLGATE4 Jul 2014 #104

Israel has shown great restraint. Calista241 Jul 2014 #102

Here's a thought: Ash_F Jul 2014 #36

+1. It's like telling the fish to get out the barrel before you drop in a hand grenade. GoneFishin Jul 2014 #41

Yes!!!! nt redwitch Jul 2014 #64

You should communicate that brilliant idea COLGATE4 Jul 2014 #66

Gotta keep' em with their kind huh? Ash_F Jul 2014 #78

If you're able to get past your preconcieved notions for COLGATE4 Jul 2014 #80

Sounds like "send them back to Africa". Point taken. /nt Ash_F Jul 2014 #88

Silly response nt COLGATE4 Jul 2014 #90

Blaming everyone but Israel? JackRiddler Jul 2014 #93

Whether you care to admit it or not COLGATE4 Jul 2014 #100

Yeah, and I am sure that bountiful free US military and financial aid is not connected GoneFishin Jul 2014 #105

You are aware that COLGATE4 Jul 2014 #108

According to who? Reporting is highly restricted. Why do you suppose none of this can be verified by GoneFishin Jul 2014 #109

None of this can be verified... COLGATE4 Jul 2014 #110

"Reporting highly restricted?" question everything Jul 2014 #113

Which border? question everything Jul 2014 #111

Why not both? /nt Ash_F Jul 2014 #112

Than say so. Instead of imply that it is Israel's fault question everything Jul 2014 #114

I don't know if you have been up with it, but the IDF has been bombing Gazan residents Ash_F Jul 2014 #115

How about just trying it for a week or a month? cali Jul 2014 #96

I think that "exercise restraint" thing has been tried. Rhinodawg Jul 2014 #98

Restraint? tjl148 Jul 2014 #13

Are you kidding? Orrex Jul 2014 #17

Reply tjl148 Jul 2014 #45

So you can't answer Orrex Jul 2014 #47

So you can't answer the questions... tjl148 Jul 2014 #54

Put simply, you're wrong Orrex Jul 2014 #61

Disagree tjl148 Jul 2014 #87

That's more propaganda Orrex Jul 2014 #89

Answers tjl148 Jul 2014 #95

Using missiles as antipersonnel in civilian areas is not restrained. Period. Scootaloo Jul 2014 #27

Agree tjl148 Jul 2014 #55

Agreed Scootaloo Jul 2014 #56

Militia versus an entire national army, they want you to think it is all in balance, but the math Fred Sanders Jul 2014 #16

so the militia should have free reign to fire rockets into israel? bossy22 Jul 2014 #21

...more Israeli dead would make you happier??? nt PCIntern Jul 2014 #26

A just peace for Palestine would make a lot of people happy. Not Israelis, though, apparently. Comrade Grumpy Jul 2014 #32

What an insipid comment... PCIntern Jul 2014 #33

Rather than more Israelis dead... Orrex Jul 2014 #48

Why did Israel start bombing? JackRiddler Jul 2014 #92

Another answer is for christx30 Jul 2014 #5

Really . . . another_liberal Jul 2014 #10

Get rid of the people christx30 Jul 2014 #22

And agree to spend the rest of your life as a homeless refugee . . . another_liberal Jul 2014 #23

You may have something there. So then no more homes will be bulldozed? GoneFishin Jul 2014 #43

And here comes the victim blame-train, toot toot! Scootaloo Jul 2014 #29

not policy propaganda snooper2 Jul 2014 #101

There is hardly a place in Gaza where there are not children. It's so overcrowded thanks to kelliekat44 Jul 2014 #6

Yes. Gaza is the 6th most densely populated region in the entire world. RufusTFirefly Jul 2014 #24

Call me cynical, but when I read this story, I'm reminded of this photo RufusTFirefly Jul 2014 #7

Glad not be the only one ... mallard Jul 2014 #60

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Jul 2014 #8

But those were Palestinian children . . . another_liberal Jul 2014 #9

The dozens killed, dead, never more were just some oops is. Sorry about that. Carry on. Fred Sanders Jul 2014 #20

Collective punishment is a war crime, a fact conveniently overlooked by the MSM RufusTFirefly Jul 2014 #30

Thank you for that quote . . . another_liberal Jul 2014 #42

Yes tjl148 Jul 2014 #57

Yes, but only after the champion offenders themselves . . . another_liberal Jul 2014 #62

Agree tjl148 Jul 2014 #85

Release a video of a house with a dozen residents ripped apart...for balance.....this is propaganda. Fred Sanders Jul 2014 #15

Oh they had this all lined up for the Sunday morning talk shows. Purveyor Jul 2014 #18

Propaganda? There's an app for that! Fred Sanders Jul 2014 #19

I commend this pilot Scootaloo Jul 2014 #28

+ 1 red dog 1 Jul 2014 #37

And I also comment this pilot tjl148 Jul 2014 #46

Only one DURec? Unmenacing Dennis Jul 2014 #35

No good deed goes unpunished Tetris_Iguana Jul 2014 #44

K&R...Thanks for posting red dog 1 Jul 2014 #38

too bad there aren't more like him in the field and in the command structure nt geek tragedy Jul 2014 #49

Am I the only one that thinks this was staged? A Simple Game Jul 2014 #50

No... Deuce Jul 2014 #52

more "purity of arms" bullcrap riverwalker Jul 2014 #51

He must have really good eyes. nt bemildred Jul 2014 #53

Good for the pilot. n/t. Ken Burch Jul 2014 #58

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2014 #59

I think of Rachel Corrie Evergreen Emerald Jul 2014 #70

I do too. nt kelliekat44 Jul 2014 #77

There is no resolution to this other than one group moving away from the other randys1 Jul 2014 #76

I've often wondered the same thing...Good post Rhinodawg Jul 2014 #97

Good on him! burrowowl Jul 2014 #106

Rule 190.... Hear everything.... Believe nothing. quadrature Jul 2014 #107