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In reply to the discussion: Pastor's Daughter Accidentally Shot at Church Dies [View all]PavePusher
(15,374 posts)212. No, your bigotry was quite clear the first time.
What was unclear was your rationalization for it.
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I bet that the preacher didn't expect that to happen in his church. Sad situation.
southernyankeebelle
Feb 2012
#1
Here is a thought.. Maybe it was her time and god took her. Who knows? But you sure bring
southernyankeebelle
Feb 2012
#163
Well god does works in mysterious ways, doesn't he? On the other hand I do agree with you.
southernyankeebelle
Feb 2012
#239
Whatever you believe is your opinion. Just like assholes we all have one.
southernyankeebelle
Mar 2012
#269
Would you prefer he left it in his car, the headline read 'gun stolen from church parking lot'?
AtheistCrusader
Feb 2012
#55
I missed the part where I defended the killing, or the manner of the gun sale.
AtheistCrusader
Feb 2012
#88
Agreed. i wouldn't even GO to a public place if I thought people were carrying. eom
tledford
Feb 2012
#182
It's warped to suggest that a gun getting stolen is just as bad as someone getting killed
CreekDog
Feb 2012
#110
Stolen guns usually lead to exactly that, and in many cases, more than one person getting killed.
AtheistCrusader
Feb 2012
#113
The principle is the same. They weren't just changing money, they were also selling animals.
yellowcanine
Feb 2012
#255
How so, "completely inappropriate", assuming you are refering to the location?
PavePusher
Feb 2012
#63
no gun sales at a krogers or a basketball court are also inappropriate.
Warren Stupidity
Feb 2012
#237
The church is not the appropriate place for individuals to buy and sell either.
yellowcanine
Feb 2012
#260
"a well regulated militia being neccessary" is the part the gun crowd conveniently ignores
leftyohiolib
Feb 2012
#164
The type, brand, model of gun doesn't matter if someone wasn't following basic gun safety.
aikoaiko
Feb 2012
#136
don't know, but what totalitarian a-hole would propose a law to make it illegal
aikoaiko
Feb 2012
#34
"Investigators have said Moises Zambrana was showing his gun in a small closet
rocktivity
Feb 2012
#9
Well, the one who was trying to do a gun deal in a church closet springs to mind.
Tunkamerica
Feb 2012
#132
African-American churches in the south, during the height of the Civil Rights movement....
PavePusher
Feb 2012
#140
Seriously? So this was self defense? I will risk a jury and straight up call you a moron.
Tunkamerica
Feb 2012
#263
there are 330 million people in this country... the majority still are responsible
tech_smythe
Feb 2012
#23
Fair enough. I should have just said "drowning", which is nearly 1000% more than firearm discharge.
cleanhippie
Feb 2012
#56
The point is, there are so many things in this world that are MUCH MORE DANGEROUS.
AlbertCat
Feb 2012
#85
OR, it's life safety device, retained for the protection of human life.
AtheistCrusader
Feb 2012
#118
the majority are responsible and know to leave their weapons unloaded, safety on, and locked up
AlbertCat
Feb 2012
#83
Well, we DO needs guns in church. And state capitols. That's what the people, all 5 of them, want.nt
valerief
Feb 2012
#29
Her fiance was the one wanting to buy it. I wonder if he's the idiot who pulled the trigger
bloomington-lib
Feb 2012
#58
If only someone was allowed concealed carry in a church then they could have prevented this ...
Nihil
Feb 2012
#69
That is inappropriate for my environment, and the one described in the article.
Lasher
Feb 2012
#122
My firearm has multiple safeties that allow me to leave the weapon in condition zero at all times.
AtheistCrusader
Feb 2012
#130
Unless you can gurantee having two hands available in a defensive situation.....
PavePusher
Feb 2012
#151
There is nothing unsafe about a C&L 1911. There are three operative safeties....
PavePusher
Feb 2012
#192
I've never quite understood the whole guns and church thing (or at least how they go together)
fujiyama
Feb 2012
#120
The two men handling the gun knew they were not supposed to do that in church.
NutmegYankee
Feb 2012
#154
They teach firearms classes in many churches. Many people carry defensive arms in churches.
PavePusher
Feb 2012
#193
something fishy smells - doing a gun sale in a closet & then the girl is shot (outside the closet?)
wordpix
Feb 2012
#167
I was scrolling down to post the same thing. I thought the same word - "fishy."
yardwork
Feb 2012
#168
Extremely fishy! The guy who shot her "accidentally" ... was her own fiance!!?
Brettongarcia
Feb 2012
#175
Maybe we've just solved a murder mystery here on DU: Love Triangle; Jealousy; spurned by fiancee
Brettongarcia
Feb 2012
#176
if 2 guys are conducting a gun deal in a closet, it's probably illegal, that's how
wordpix
Feb 2012
#198
Feel free to cite the laws being broken that would indicate an illegal sale. n/t
PavePusher
Feb 2012
#199
I'm assuming that they went into a closet/store-room with the intention of having a safer backstop..
PavePusher
Feb 2012
#206
"the history of guns in churches"? Cite, please. Have guns never been used to defend churches?
PavePusher
Feb 2012
#219
here is just ONE citation with 18 separate incidents in 11 yrs. Look more up yourself
wordpix
Feb 2012
#221
If you were trying to demonstrate that churches should be prepared for defense.....
PavePusher
Feb 2012
#222
Instead of displaying virulent bigotry to lawful Citizens, perhaps you could explain....
PavePusher
Feb 2012
#207
contemporary American churches are in dire need of motes, crenelated walls, and murder holes...
LanternWaste
Feb 2012
#210
I've lived on four continents and visted over 25 countries. I'm quite familiar with bigotry.
PavePusher
Feb 2012
#215
Predictably this thread is a clear demonstration of why there is a gungeon.
Warren Stupidity
Feb 2012
#208
I don't see "suspicious" unless you think the guys could see through walls.
PavePusher
Feb 2012
#228
Tragic and unnecessary. Basic gun safety should be taught in public schools.
slackmaster
Feb 2012
#235
I dunno - it's not that hard to hit a target on the other side of the wall...
Taverner
Feb 2012
#249