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TomCADem

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Sun Nov 11, 2012, 01:34 PM Nov 2012

Boehner Tells House G.O.P. to Fall in Line [View all]

Source: NY Times

WASHINGTON — On a conference call with House Republicans a day after the party’s electoral battering last week, Speaker John A. Boehner dished out some bitter medicine, and for the first time in the 112th Congress, most members took their dose.

Their party lost, badly, Mr. Boehner said, and while Republicans would still control the House and would continue to staunchly oppose tax rate increases as Congress grapples with the impending fiscal battle, they had to avoid the nasty showdowns that marked so much of the last two years.

Members on the call, subdued and dark, murmured words of support — even a few who had been a thorn in the speaker’s side for much of this Congress.

It was a striking contrast to a similar call last year, when Mr. Boehner tried to persuade members to compromise with Democrats on a deal to extend a temporary cut in payroll taxes, only to have them loudly revolt.


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Can you imagine Nancy Pelosi needing to wait two years after becoming Speaker needing to tell her caucas to fall into line? This is just a reminder that one of the underreported stories is that Boehner is one of the weakest speakers in the history of the House. The reason why he walked away from "grand bargain" negotiations was not his fault, but that he discovered that he would not be able to get his members to vote for ANY package that could make President Obama look like he could close a deal. In other words, Boehner knew he had to fail on purpose!

The media has given Boehner a tremendous free pass in comparison to Nancy Pelosi. Remember all the attention on Bart Stupak? The fact of the matter is that Boehner knows that he needs to look over his shoulder at Kantor and Ryan and the moment he strays from the Grover Norquist tax pledge, they Norquist and Limbaugh will replace him with someone more malleable.
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Im hearing Boehner's situation has greatly improved since the election. DCBob Nov 2012 #1
Unfortunately the obstruction stuff DID work; elleng Nov 2012 #4
From their POV it didnt.. DCBob Nov 2012 #20
No, they didnt want him to fail. cstanleytech Nov 2012 #27
Wait for the articles of impeachment. Joe Bacon Nov 2012 #23
The teabaggers control the House. He does exactly what they tell him to do. If he meets with AlinPA Nov 2012 #31
Actually I dont think the teabaggers are near as powerful as they once were. DCBob Nov 2012 #34
I'll look for some moderate republicans and may find a few but IMO there are not enough to fill up a AlinPA Nov 2012 #35
try a car dlwickham Nov 2012 #38
I agree. The Tea Party is greatly weakened. Prisca Theologia Nov 2012 #37
Time will tell, but I don't think that they will ISW Nov 2012 #2
Boehner's Style - "I am such a wuss that I can't bring any votes to the table." TomCADem Nov 2012 #17
I agree, I expect a drawn out struggle. elleng Nov 2012 #25
The Boner speaks... SoapBox Nov 2012 #3
He is no different than a teabagger. It's irritating to hear that he had had trouble with them AlinPA Nov 2012 #32
Caught a few on Sunday morning talk shows toby jo Nov 2012 #5
Were they contrite or faking contrition for the benefit of the camera? ItsTheMediaStupid Nov 2012 #8
Obama McConnell and Boehner Meet on The Fiscal Cliff! Literally.... ProudProgressiveNow Nov 2012 #6
I don't understand why he doesn't free up some members of his caucus and fill in the gaps with dem craigmatic Nov 2012 #7
He'd face a party revolt and probably result in even worse crazy after something like that. (nt) Posteritatis Nov 2012 #12
John Boehner is a very weak Speaker of the House AndyA Nov 2012 #9
Exactly, How Often Did Dems Leave Pelosi High and Dry? TomCADem Nov 2012 #16
He's the one who'll fall in lone geek tragedy Nov 2012 #10
The dems should continue to set them up for failure jonthebru Nov 2012 #11
All they have are bayonets and horses Kennah Nov 2012 #28
Smoke and screen bullshit Iliyah Nov 2012 #13
Boehner doesn't need the Tea Party to promote reasonable legislation ... Trajan Nov 2012 #14
Try to find even a few moderate republicans. AlinPA Nov 2012 #36
While I would agree with you from an emotional viewpoint, I cannot completely agree Trajan Nov 2012 #40
and the wingnuts on #tcot InsultComicDog Nov 2012 #15
What's he going to do when Allen West shows up because Skidmore Nov 2012 #18
It John2 Nov 2012 #19
So did Boehner "fail on purpose" or "get 98% of what the GOP wanted"? 99th_Monkey Nov 2012 #21
How do you arrive at 98%? TomCADem Nov 2012 #22
I didn't "arrive at 98%". Speaker Boehner is who said he "got 98%", not me. 99th_Monkey Nov 2012 #24
Like Romney, I would take what Boehner says with a grain of salt... TomCADem Nov 2012 #26
..a very LARGE gain of salt. Habitual lying is in the GOP dna I think. nt 99th_Monkey Nov 2012 #30
I would imagine that statement is simply political posturing LanternWaste Nov 2012 #33
Ya think? 99th_Monkey Nov 2012 #41
Time to make Grover irrelevant by tearing up in his face any agreement signed. kelliekat44 Nov 2012 #29
Right Wing propagandists are going ape shit over this Hugabear Nov 2012 #39
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