New NSA docs contradict 9/11 claims

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1. Building 7 was reported on live BBC TV was having collpased when it was still plainly visible on the screen. It didnt collapse until 20 minutes later.

BBC Reports Collapse of WTC Building 7 Early-- TWICE

2. How were the calls from AA fights 77 (Pentagon crash) and Flight 93 (Pennsylvania 'Let's Roll' crash) made? Both were 757's. The Airphones were deactivated on AA 757's in January 2001, at the lastest, and cell phones couldnt be used at that height the planes were flying at the time almost all the calls were made.

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Did American 77 Have Onboard Phones?

 Statements from various representatives of American Airlines that its Boeing 757s did not have onboard phones, the most important of these being Chad Kinder, who, in response to the question whether it was true that there were no “seatback satellite phones on any [American] Boeing 757 on September 11, 2001,” said: “That is correct; we do not have phones on our Boeing 757. The passengers on flight 77 used their own personal cellular phones to make out calls during the terrorist attack.”95

 A page, dated January 28, 2001, purportedly from the Boeing 757 Aircraft Maintenance Manual (757 AMM), which states: “The passenger telephone system was deactivated by ECO [Engineering Change Order] FO878.”96 Although the phones were physically removed from the planes in 2002, this document says that they were deactivated, so that they could not be used, almost eight months before September 11, 2001. The authenticity of this page is vouched for by an American Airlines employee who, although he wishes to remain anonymous, is known to Rob Balsamo of Pilots for 9/11 Truth.





 The following statement of American Airlines Public Relations Representative John Hotard: “An Engineering Change Order to deactivate the seatback phone system on the 757 fleet had been issued by that time [9/11/2001].” Following this statement, Hotard emphasized that photographs showing seatback phones in American 757s after 9/11 would not prove anything, for this reason: “We did two things: issued the engineering change orders to disconnect/disable the phones, but then did not physically remove the phones until the aircraft went . . . in for a complete overhaul.”97

 The following statement by Captain Ralph Kolstad, who flew Boeing 757s (as well as 767s) as captain from 1993 until he retired in 2005: “[T]he ‘air phones,’ as they were called, were . . . deactivated in early or mid 2001. They had been deactivated for quite some time prior to Sep 2001.” In response to a question about this statement, he added: “I have no proof, but I am absolutely certain that the phones were disconnected on the 757 long before Sep 2001. They were still physically installed in the aircraft, but they were not operational.”98

Given the fact that these four mutually supporting pieces of evidence come from completely different sources, they provide very strong evidence for the view that American 757s in 2001, and hence American Flight 77, did not have functioning onboard phones.


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Cell Phone Limitations

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Given the cell phone technology available in 2001, cell phone calls from airliners at altitudes of more than a few thousand feet, especially calls lasting more than a few seconds, were virtually – and perhaps completely – impossible. And yet many of the reported cell phone calls occurred when the planes were above 25,000 or even 40,000 feet24 and also lasted a minute or more – with Amy Sweeney’s reported call even lasting for 12 minutes.25

Three problems have been pointed out: (1) The cell phone in those days had to complete a “handshake” with a cellsite on the ground, which took several seconds, so a cell phone in a high-speed plane would have had trouble staying connected to a cellsite long enough to complete a call. (2) The signals were sent out horizontally, from cellsite to cellsite, not vertically. Although there was some leakage upward, the system was not designed to activate cell phones at high altitudes.26 (3) Receiving a signal was made even more difficult by the insulation provided by the large mass of an airliner.

Well-known Canadian scientist and mathematician A. K. Dewdney, who for many years had written a column for Scientific American, reported early in 2003 on experiments showing that these difficulties would have rendered impossible at least most of the reported cell phone calls from the 911 airliners.27 His experiments involved both single- and double-engine airplanes.

Dewdney found that, in a single-engine plane, successful calls could be counted on only under 2,000 feet. Above that altitude, they became increasingly unlikely. At 20,000 feet,

“the chance of a typical cellphone call making it to ground and engaging a cellsite there is less than one in a hundred.... [T]he probability that two callers will succeed is less than one in ten thousand.”

The likelihood of 13 successful calls, Dewdney added, would be “infinitesimal.”28 In later experiments using a twin-engine plane, which has greater mass and hence provides greater insulation from electronic signals, Dewdney found that the success rate decayed to 0 percent at 7,000 feet.29 A large airliner, having much greater mass, would provide far more insulation – a fact, Dewdney added, that “is very much in harmony with many anecdotal reports ...that in large passenger jets, one loses contact during takeoff, frequently before the plane reaches 1000 feet altitude.”30 Dewdney concluded, therefore, that numerous successful cell phone calls from airliners flying above 30,000 feet would have been “flat out impossible.”31

Such calls would become possible only several years later. In 2004, Qualcomm announced a successful demonstration of a fundamentally new kind of cell phone technology, involving a “picocell,” that would allow passengers “to place and receive calls as if they were on the ground.” American Airlines announced that this new technology was expected to be commercially available in 2006.32 This technology, in fact, first became available on commercial flights in March 2008.33

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3. The extraordinary amount of drills occuring on or around 9-11-2001. Biggest swarm in modern history, with many involving hijacked airplanes, some flown into hi-rises, and some of them planned before Bush was elected.

http://archives.kpfa.org/data/20110907-Wed1300.mp3 Radio Pacifica, Guns and Butter Show

THE 46 DRILLS, OPERATIONS, WAR GAMES, AND ACTIVITIES OF 9/11

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THE 46 DRILLS, OPERATIONS, WAR GAMES, AND ACTIVITIES OF 9/11
1
PRE-9/11 PREPARATION
Drill Date Scenario
1 NORAD Between 1991 and 2001 Foreign hijacked airliner crashing into
famous US building

2 White House, Richard
Clarke
1998 Terrorists load Lear Jet with explosive,
attack Washington DC

3 NORAD 1999-2001 Hijacked aircraft hit many targets,
including WTC, MASCAL

4 Able Danger: DIA, USSOCOM,
LIWA
Dec. 1999-2001 Manipulate al Qaeda; data mining (patsy
control)

5 Stratus Ivy: DIA Dec. 1999-2001 (?) Operate on patsies “out of the box” (patsy
control)

6 Door Hop Galley: DIA (?) Dec. 1999-2001 (?) Still secret (patsy control?)

7 Proactive Pre-emptive
Operations Group (P2OG)
unknown “Stimulating reactions” of terrorists (patsy
control)

8 NORAD (NEADS)
Exercises: UN HQ, NYC
October 16, 2000 Terrorist crashes Federal Express plane
into UN HQ NYC

9 NORAD (NEADS)
Exercises: UN HQ NYC
October 23, 2000 Terrorist crashes Fedex plane with WMD
into UN HQ NYC

10 Pentagon MASCAL
exercise
Oct. 24-28, 2000 Commercial aircraft hits Pentagon,
MASCAL

11 FAA drill December, 2000 Scenario: a chartered flight out of Ohio
that had turned its transponder off

12 Positive Force ’01:
NORAD plus a dozen
agencies; worldwide
April 17-26, 2001 Continuity of government; attacks on
transportation; one scenario: terrorist
group hijacking commercial airliner and
flying it into Pentagon (Pentagon attack)

13 Unified Vision ’01: US
JFCOM; US CENTCOM;
US SOCOM: 40 agencies
May 7-24, 2001 Invasion of Afghanistan and Pakistan
(prepared Operation Enduring Freedom,
October 2001)

14 Red Ex (Recognition,
Evaluation, and Decision-
Making Exercise); NYC
OEM; FDNY; NYPD;
FEMA; FBI
May 11, 2001 Plane crashes and building collapses in
New York City (WTC attack, demolition)

15 Amalgam Virgo ’01: USCanada
multi-agency drill;
NORAD; SEADS; Coast
Guard, Army, Navy
June 1-2, 2001 UAV drone launched from rogue freighter
in Gulf of Mexico or cruise missile from
barge in Atlantic Ocean; Joint Based
Expeditionary Connectivity Center
(JBECC) mobile radar command center
tested. (Pentagon attack)

16 Mall Strike 2001,
Westmoreland County,
Pennsylvania (near
Shanksville); 600 local first
responders and
emergency managers
June 16, 2001 Toxic chemical agent and the simulated
release of radiation and radiological
contamination; (indoctrination of first
responders).

17 FAA Drill: FBI Miami field
office, Miami-Dade County
Police Department.
Summer 2001 Varig airlines Boeing 767 hijacked over
Florida

18 Ft. Belvoir, Davison Army
Airfield helicopter base
MASCAL
June 29, 2001 Scenario based on plane hitting Pentagon
(indoctrination of first responders).

19 US Department of
Transportation Hijacking
Exercise
August 31, 2001 US Dept. of Transportation Crisis
Management Center drilled hijacks;
simulated cell phone calls.

20 NORAD, NEADS (Vigilant
Guardian)
September 6, 2001 Tokyo to Anchorage flight hijacked by
“Mum Hykro” to Vancouver and San
Francisco

21 NORAD, NEADS (Vigilant
Guardian)
September 6, 2001 Seoul to Anchorage flight hijacked by “Lin
Po” to Seattle

22 NORAD, NEADS (Vigilant
Guardian)
September 9, 2001 UK to NYC flight hijacked, blown up

23 NORAD SEADS NEADS
(Vigilant Guardian)
September 10, 2001 Ilyushin IL-62 from Cuba hijacked by
asylum seekers, lands at Dobbins Air
Force Base in Georgia
ON 9/11
Drill Date Scenario

24 FBI training exercise in
Monterey, California for
FBI/CIA Anti-Terrorist
Task Force
Through 9/11 Diverts top FBI, CIA anti-terrorist and
special operations agents and heavy
equipment away from Boston, NYC,
Washington DC

25 NORAD annual readiness
drill, Cheyenne Mountain,
CO (Vigilant Guardian)
9/11 Full ‘battle staff’ levels to test entire
organization

26 Vigilant Guardian:
NORAD, NEADS, USCanada
9/11 Live-fly hijacking and air defense; hijack
multiplication, diversion and confusion

27 NORAD/JCS Vigilant
Warrior
Through 9/11 Reported by Richard Clarke

28 Operation Southern Watch Through 9/11 Diverts 174th Fighter Wing, New York Air
National Guard, to Sultan Air Base, Saudi
Arabia, to impose no-fly zone over
southern Iraq

29 Operation Northern Watch Through 9/11 Diverts 6 fighters from Langley AFB sent
to Incirlik AFB, Turkey to impose no-fly
zone over northern Iraq

30 Operation Northern
Vigilance
Through 9/11 Diverts fighters, 350 personnel to Alaska
and northern Canada to counter a
Russian bomber drill

31 Operation Northern
Guardian, Keflavik AFB,
Iceland
Through 9/11 Diverts fighters from Langley Air Force
Base (Virginia) deployed to Keflavik AFB,
Iceland to counter a Russian bomber drill

32 Red Flag, Nellis AFB,
Nevada: 100 pilots
9/11 Diverts most F-15s of 71st Fighter
Squadron, Langley AFB, VA; DC ANG’s
121st Fighter Squadron of Andrews Air
Force Base also depleted.

33 Andrews AFB local drill 9/11 Diverts 3 F-16s to North Carolina

34 National Reconnaissance
Office drill, Chantilly,
Virginia
9/11 Simulated plane crash into high-rise
government building; satellite imaging
(WTC attack)

35 Tripod II, New York City 9/11 Response to biochemical attack; run from
backup command center at Pier 92,
Hudson River.

36 Fort Meyer VA Education
Center training drill for
9/11 Assembled and indoctrinated Pentagon
first responders, local firemen.

37 Timely Alert II, Fort
Monmouth, New Jersey
9/11 Indoctrination of WTC first responders.

38 World Trade Center
Emergency Drill, Fiduciary
Trust Co., 97th floor,
South Tower
9/11 Meeting called to assemble and silence
unreliable outside contractors?

39 Global Guardian,
STRATCOM: Offutt AFB,
Nebraska; Barksdale AFB,
Louisiana; Minot AFB,
North Dakota; Whiteman
AFB, Missouri.
9/11 Nuclear warfighting; Armageddon.
(deterrence of Russia and China during
invasion of Afghanistan and Pakistan)

40 Amalgam Warrior 9/11 Large live-fly air defense and air intercept,
tracking, and surveillance drill; air defense
against foreign retaliation.

41 Crown Vigilance, Air
Combat Command
9/11 No details known.

42 Apollo Guardian, US
Space Command
9/11 No details known.

43 AWACS drill, ordered by
NORAD commander Gen.
Larry Arnold
9/11 Two AWACS aircraft from Tinker AFB,
Oklahoma sent over Washington DC and
Florida; surveillance of capital and
president during coup.

44 Global Guardian Computer
Network Attack
9/11 Enemy forces “war dialed” STRATCOM’s
telephone and fax systems; “bad insider”
has access to key C³ system (missile
launch option)

45 STRATCOM Strategic
Advisory Committee, Offutt
AFB, Nebraska; Andrews
AFB, MD; Wright-
Patterson AFB, Dayton,
Ohio.
9/11 Three E-4B National Airborne Operations
Center planes (Doomsday or Looking
Glass) airborne; passengers include Brent
Scowcroft; Warren Buffet at Offutt.
(Committee. of Public Safety option?))
After 9/11
Drill Date Scenario

46 Amalgam Virgo ‘02 Scheduled for June 2002 Air defense, interception, surveillance,
and pursuit drill; Delta 757 with real Delta
pilots, actors as passengers, FBI as
hijackers - deviated from Salt Lake City to
Hawaii; Canadian police to hijack DC-9
near Vancouver BC.

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