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Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
51. Nobody was saying that other cultures could NEVER be criticized.
Wed Apr 18, 2012, 07:41 PM
Apr 2012

It's more about what is done in the name of changing bad things within other cultures. What you are running into is a deep well of fully justified suspicion about this country taking up the "We have a civilizing mission" mindset. That mindset always puts us on a slippery slope to imperial conquest.

Also, if you remember early 20th Century European countries, you would recognize that "honor killings" are the equivalent to the way that rhetoric about the alleged bayonetting of Belgian infants by Imperial German troops was used to whip up fervor for British and then U.S. involvement in World War One.
Every demagogue in American politics that wants even bloodier U.S. involvement in Iran and other Middle East countries references honor killings to get people baying for blood.

And again, honor killings have nothing to do with Islam. They have appeared in cultures around the world(including the cultures of some "Christian" nations-and they predate the arrival of Islam in what is now the "Islamic" world, which means they were happening when those countries were Christian(that was the majority religion in most Near East countries at one point)and that the Christian authorities in those countries must have done nothing to even try to stop the practice.

Its not the courts job, nor the government, to protect religious values of hatred and bigotry. Humanist_Activist Apr 2012 #1
Do you support the Hijab ban? n/t rayofreason Apr 2012 #18
Only if it interferes with a dress code for a business and/or safety issues... Humanist_Activist Apr 2012 #25
I agree with you on the public ban... rayofreason Apr 2012 #31
So it's only "Christians" who have "religious values of 'hatred and bigotry'"? whathehell Apr 2012 #22
Did I restrict it to Christians only? n/t Humanist_Activist Apr 2012 #24
"honor killings" aren't the fault of ANY religion Ken Burch Apr 2012 #26
So should we just wait leftynyc Apr 2012 #34
Of Course They Should Be Denounced, Sir, And They Are Denounced Here, Routinely The Magistrate Apr 2012 #35
I made no such claim leftynyc Apr 2012 #41
In This Context, Ma'am, There Is No Other Reason For Bringing The Topic Up The Magistrate Apr 2012 #43
Then take it up with the person leftynyc Apr 2012 #45
I don't think Islam 'gets a pass' on DU muriel_volestrangler Apr 2012 #47
Oh please leftynyc Apr 2012 #48
"It gets complained about (certainly by women) plenty" muriel_volestrangler Apr 2012 #49
A good Point, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2012 #50
Nobody was saying that other cultures could NEVER be criticized. Ken Burch Apr 2012 #51
What do you want?...we can't relaunch the Crusades. Ken Burch Apr 2012 #40
I don't see anyone (certainly not me) leftynyc Apr 2012 #42
Actually, Ma'am The Magistrate Apr 2012 #44
"not necessarily" leftynyc Apr 2012 #46
Western courts and governments don't support 'honour killings' muriel_volestrangler Apr 2012 #27
It Is A Sort Of A Two-Fer, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2012 #29
So let's see... Permanut Apr 2012 #2
Pretty much Prophet 451 Apr 2012 #3
Help, help I'm being repressed! Moostache Apr 2012 #10
It was inevitable, wasn't it? bluedigger Apr 2012 #4
I bet 90% of all my co workers and employers are or were xtians. persecution must pay off lol nt msongs Apr 2012 #5
Awwwwww.... AlbertCat Apr 2012 #6
So here are a bunch of people answering that idiot's call to arms Joe Bacon Apr 2012 #7
He means that he feels persecuted because he can't legally persecute others Anarcho-Socialist Apr 2012 #8
That Is It In a Nut-Shell, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2012 #32
He is not looking for equality at all, he wants special exceptions for Christians. siligut Apr 2012 #9
The current archbishop's certainly an upgrade from this dolt. (nt) Posteritatis Apr 2012 #11
Lord Carey is a right-wing nutjob. kwassa Apr 2012 #12
The headline makes me laugh every time. sarcasmo Apr 2012 #13
Do you laugh when you hear about "muslim persecution" or "honor" killings? whathehell Apr 2012 #23
Religion is all a joke, not just chrisitanity. sarcasmo Apr 2012 #33
When Muslims claim to be persecuted in countries where they are the majority yes I do dmallind Apr 2012 #38
Good. It should be socially embarrassing in the 21st century to believe in fairyland. NoodleyAppendage Apr 2012 #14
Post removed Post removed Apr 2012 #21
+1 sarcasmo Apr 2012 #39
Isn't that what Christians should want? "Blessed are they that are persecuted for my sake..." nt nanabugg Apr 2012 #15
It is widely held that this refers to people who are actually Ruby the Liberal Apr 2012 #16
All worshipers of the One True God philosopherdog Apr 2012 #17
Wow. JNelson6563 Apr 2012 #37
Carey is very untypical of British Christians or indeed clergy LeftishBrit Apr 2012 #19
Carey is the only public figure I've had a rude email from muriel_volestrangler Apr 2012 #28
Those Christians who manufacture complaints about being persecuted while being members of the single grantcart Apr 2012 #20
It is not persecution to have to wear a work uniform treestar Apr 2012 #30
Although I am an ex-catholic, I still wear a cross. When I was at work crunch60 Apr 2012 #52
What a load of bollocks. truebrit71 Apr 2012 #36
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