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138. Florida follows federal law

Tue Jun 14, 2016, 05:34 PM

Jun 2016

If you have no felony, DV convictions or restraining orders, you will pass the background check, in accordance with federal law.

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I bought an AR-15 semi-automatic rifle in Philly in 7 minutes [View all] brooklynite Jun 2016 OP

How long should it take? Matrosov Jun 2016 #1

I believe it should take ChickenGuru Jun 2016 #7

I don't disagree n/t Matrosov Jun 2016 #21

So much for due process then? cleanhippie Jun 2016 #75

My due process rights are being violated - I can't own a rocket launcher (without a permit) MillennialDem Jun 2016 #87

Rocket launchers are ordnance, not arms. AtheistCrusader Jun 2016 #94

And guns are guns, not arms. MillennialDem Jun 2016 #97

Not according to the courts. AtheistCrusader Jun 2016 #99

Right, so you only have the courts to back you up. The constitution does not say the MillennialDem Jun 2016 #113

Correct. The 2nd Amendment specifies 'arms'. AtheistCrusader Jun 2016 #115

And the court was wrong and should change it. Just like they were with Dred Scott or Bowers v MillennialDem Jun 2016 #116

Disagree. AtheistCrusader Jun 2016 #122

For a less snarky response, there are reasons for the delineation. AtheistCrusader Jun 2016 #106

Yet switch blades are illegal, most knives over a certain number of inches, many MillennialDem Jun 2016 #110

Switch blades aren't illegal nationwide. AtheistCrusader Jun 2016 #114

The constitution overrides state/local law. If the well regulated militia part of the 2A is MillennialDem Jun 2016 #117

That law has been WELL tested in the courts. AtheistCrusader Jun 2016 #121

So were many slavery and anti gay cases. MillennialDem Jun 2016 #143

Whats your point? Travis_0004 Jun 2016 #154

"Special treatment?" Well, the Second Amendment, yes. nt Eleanors38 Jun 2016 #144

I'm talking about knives vs guns. Why do guns get special treatment per the 2A? MillennialDem Jun 2016 #158

So when the 2nd congress, responsible for guidelines arming the militias, mandated what arms jmg257 Jun 2016 #145

Ok, muskets and flintlocks then. MillennialDem Jun 2016 #160

And pistols - don't forget pistols. (and associated ammo for all the above) nt jmg257 Jun 2016 #162

No modern pistols. Only stuff built before 1800. MillennialDem Jun 2016 #164

Um no. I didn't say that at all. AtheistCrusader Jun 2016 #171

I think I was responding to the post you responded to. No worries. jmg257 Jun 2016 #172

How about a LAW? (Light antitank weapon) MH1 Jun 2016 #170

If you really believe that, the you should sue. cleanhippie Jun 2016 #126

It just shows how BOUGHT even the court system is. Why do guns get so many special MillennialDem Jun 2016 #142

Yes, so bought. cleanhippie Jun 2016 #159

I think the point is that checking the background of a buyer can't be very comprehensive if... George II Jun 2016 #8

Do not try to confuse us with logic! n/t LoverOfLiberty Jun 2016 #9

It's not confusing Matrosov Jun 2016 #24

If a "comprehensive" background check LoverOfLiberty Jun 2016 #26

All the work of the check was already done. aikoaiko Jun 2016 #44

Sorry, that makes no sense LoverOfLiberty Jun 2016 #131

Criminal and mental health records are updated bighart Jun 2016 #136

Sounds to me like the system isn't working then LoverOfLiberty Jun 2016 #157

Every state has to gather the data on an ongoing basis and provide those data to NICS aikoaiko Jun 2016 #141

The biggest problem with NICS is that it isn't even faster and more accurate... Eleanors38 Jun 2016 #146

Its a simple call to NICS database - figure all computer driven with operators standing by. nt jmg257 Jun 2016 #10

Well, the "background check" Adrahil Jun 2016 #13

In other words the "background check" here is a misnomer. George II Jun 2016 #18

Not at all Abq_Sarah Jun 2016 #137

How would a gun shop owner evaluate suspicion? yeoman6987 Jun 2016 #20

many shops do it by skin color IronLionZion Jun 2016 #29

Well indirectly. Most gun purchasers are white people scared of their own shadow and often racists Hoyt Jun 2016 #37

no thanks IronLionZion Jun 2016 #48

Yet most criminals with a gun are black Travis_0004 Jun 2016 #155

Many shops deny purchases based on skin color? Marengo Jun 2016 #61

yep IronLionZion Jun 2016 #82

A citizen in Austin hain't got no problem getting a gun... Eleanors38 Jun 2016 #147

Not entirely true. AtheistCrusader Jun 2016 #96

All the data gathering is already done. Its not like they start from scratch each time you call NICS aikoaiko Jun 2016 #46

But it's the interpretation of data that is lax. If some yahoo is buying a lot of ammo and gunz, Hoyt Jun 2016 #52

Well she bought one rifle. Hardly a harbinger. aikoaiko Jun 2016 #64

So if Cabelas or Academy is having a good sale on firearms/ammo, and a person takes advantage Waldorf Jun 2016 #123

More so than the guy who doesn't see the need to arm up. Find something besides lethal weapons to Hoyt Jun 2016 #124

I enjoy target shooting. I enjoy reloading my own ammunition. Waldorf Jun 2016 #129

Well, your guns and ammo won't help in that respect. Just because you get a kick out of something Hoyt Jun 2016 #130

If this type of weapon is going to be sold kacekwl Jun 2016 #11

It should be at least as hard as being able to vote or getting an abortion. LiberalArkie Jun 2016 #23

Charge $40,000.00 for the weapon. yesphan Jun 2016 #34

And wasn't it Chris Rock who suggested that guns remain affordable, but calimary Jun 2016 #71

Indeed, yesphan Jun 2016 #95

That cost is acceptable in Zimbabwe currency... Eleanors38 Jun 2016 #150

So only the rich should be able to afford constitutional rights. NobodyHere Jun 2016 #151

I'm OK with reign88 Jun 2016 #58

Homer Simpson: "Five days!?! But I'm mad NOW!" LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jun 2016 #62

One of their best episodes EVER! Loved the gun shop name - bullwinkle428 Jun 2016 #86

I live in PA, and I own firearms. It is too easy to purchase them. Glassunion Jun 2016 #31

Send that to Bob Casey mainstreetonce Jun 2016 #156

6 months and a psych exam and a level 5 security exam and a IQ test and ability to vote democratic uponit7771 Jun 2016 #36

Good answer n/t Matrosov Jun 2016 #39

Propose that to the DNC. Demand it be in the Platform. Report back. nt Eleanors38 Jun 2016 #152

How about forever? AirmensMom Jun 2016 #47

certainly longer than 7 mins. - see this WaPo article wordpix Jun 2016 #69

Florida follows federal law Abq_Sarah Jun 2016 #138

Sarah is spot on. Eleanors38 Jun 2016 #153

Oh, maybe a few minutes less than FOREVER! calimary Jun 2016 #70

Infinite time - no one needs or should have a gun designed to do exactly what happened in Orlando karynnj Jun 2016 #74

To the contrary, this gun... phazed0 Jun 2016 #109

Please tell me a valid use of this gun by a civilian karynnj Jun 2016 #112

Can be used for hunting, like any other gun. Target shooting? phazed0 Jun 2016 #118

I have never touched a gun and have never claimed any expertize - If I was wrong, I am wrong karynnj Jun 2016 #128

In my view ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #102

Seven lifetimes AllyCat Jun 2016 #111

I'm going with a 4 month waiting period Dem2 Jun 2016 #134

Disgusting. stonecutter357 Jun 2016 #2

I'm surprised a democratic state like pennsyvania doesn't have a wait period but yeoman6987 Jun 2016 #22

Only the PA governor is a Democrat BumRushDaShow Jun 2016 #32

Pennsylvania is also known as Pennsyltucky or Alabavania. GoneOffShore Jun 2016 #100

Wait until you hit the range with it... ileus Jun 2016 #3

I was actually surprised reign88 Jun 2016 #60

That was the intent jmowreader Jun 2016 #79

If you pass the background check then so what? hack89 Jun 2016 #4

Definitely wouldn't want to inconvenience some gun yahoo for the benefit of society. Hoyt Jun 2016 #40

He passed the background check hack89 Jun 2016 #42

Well in his case, it should be obvious. In other yahoos' cases, we don't need anymore friggin guns Hoyt Jun 2016 #45

I love you Hoyt hack89 Jun 2016 #59

I'm never quite sure of the purpose of columns like this. Do the authors want the time to be longer? Brickbat Jun 2016 #5

I am surprised that others are surprised about this. jmg257 Jun 2016 #12

True, but I feel like enough think pieces have run in publications dedicated to looking at certain Brickbat Jun 2016 #16

It would have only have taken her a minute to find out that it wasn't actually an AR-15 used. PoliticAverse Jun 2016 #6

Not an AR-15, just a "sexier" version of it. 1939 Jun 2016 #38

"Could"? jmowreader Jun 2016 #78

You are right 1939 Jun 2016 #83

Good. This means the gov has done well implementing jack_krass Jun 2016 #14

She should go to a Gander Mountain - they take forever. jmg257 Jun 2016 #15

Gander is a good place to browse. Haven't bought there though. Bonx Jun 2016 #25

Fun to look at, pain in the wallet to buy from. ileus Jun 2016 #81

Nice ! Bonx Jun 2016 #89

It should be as difficult to purchase a weapon as it is justiceischeap Jun 2016 #17

Why is gun buying compared to abortions? Is there a similarity i am missing? nt jmg257 Jun 2016 #27

Waiting periods. Nt justiceischeap Jun 2016 #41

Ah thank you. nt jmg257 Jun 2016 #53

So we're OK with abortions taking a long time to obtain, and to be difficult in general? NickB79 Jun 2016 #165

Whoosh is the sound of the point going over your head justiceischeap Jun 2016 #167

I understood your point. It's a juvenile one, frankly NickB79 Jun 2016 #174

In Florida there is a 3 day wait period yeoman6987 Jun 2016 #19

Is that just for handguns? nt jmg257 Jun 2016 #30

"The State of Florida does not require a waiting period for the purchase of a long gun." sl8 Jun 2016 #51

AR-15. Not sure what else yeoman6987 Jun 2016 #65

Some are saying that might just be the location where I live have 3-day but not whole state yeoman6987 Jun 2016 #66

Thanks you! nt jmg257 Jun 2016 #67

Not if a person has a Florida CCW HockeyMom Jun 2016 #33

Not for the AR-15 ish weapons, its zero... the shop owner said as much IIRC uponit7771 Jun 2016 #49

I have a serious question donnasgirl Jun 2016 #28

Yes metalbot Jun 2016 #92

The Orlando shooter didn't use an AR-15. DesMoinesDem Jun 2016 #35

This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Jun 2016 #50

Antigun nuts don't seem to know the difference between any rifles. DesMoinesDem Jun 2016 #54

I live in Florida, and the new reports I watched bullsnarfle Jun 2016 #80

That just proves my point. DesMoinesDem Jun 2016 #88

Guess the cops at the scene bullsnarfle Jun 2016 #108

They said it was an AR-15 style gun, not an AR-15. DesMoinesDem Jun 2016 #119

"This happens every single shooting." Demit Jun 2016 #120

It's true. DesMoinesDem Jun 2016 #127

A certain gun TYPE, as you say. Mass murderers seem to use the same gun TYPE. Demit Jun 2016 #135

Why does pointing out the ignorance of people about guns upset you? DesMoinesDem Jun 2016 #139

The carnage caused by the gun upsets me greatly. Your petty insistence on details is just sad. Demit Jun 2016 #149

Yes, you're the only one upset by the shooting. DesMoinesDem Jun 2016 #161

This is why my husband wanst to move to Pa., and not back to NY HockeyMom Jun 2016 #43

I've lived in PA the majority of my life Amishman Jun 2016 #56

How long should it take to query a national database dumbcat Jun 2016 #55

BBC article on buying guns in Florida. Bad Dog Jun 2016 #57

And why exactly does one need an AR-15 semi-automatic rifle? n/t Herman4747 Jun 2016 #63

rights are not parcelled out based on "need" nt Elmergantry Jun 2016 #72

How are answers to questions posed parcelled out? nt Herman4747 Jun 2016 #73

The second amendment is bullshit just like slavery was bullshit. hunter Jun 2016 #84

bless you Elmergantry Jun 2016 #105

Limitations on some rights are necessary to ensure the free exercise of others spirald Jun 2016 #85

and so far Elmergantry Jun 2016 #107

There is such a thing as the general welfare. Demit Jun 2016 #125

If I am not mistaken, Elmergantry Jun 2016 #168

can't technically buy an AR-15. PatrynXX Jun 2016 #68

Pretty sure Colt is still making them(?) An XM-15 would be close, M-15, also an AR-10. jmg257 Jun 2016 #76

AR-10 is the .30 caliber version. (.308 or 7.62x51mm NATO) AtheistCrusader Jun 2016 #98

Yep. Would typically prefer that over the 5.56. nt jmg257 Jun 2016 #101

I'm extremely glad the muderer at Pulse didn't have one. AtheistCrusader Jun 2016 #104

Frankly, we should replace the American bald eagle with a silhouette of the AR-15 . . . DrBulldog Jun 2016 #77

No one should be able to purchase a killing machine. SleeplessinSoCal Jun 2016 #90

I can beat that. OldRedneck Jun 2016 #91

when i wanted to volunteer a an animal shelter i had to be fingerprinted and pass a background check rdking647 Jun 2016 #93

already did for my concealed carry permit melm00se Jun 2016 #132

Hell, it takes longer than that to get a cheesesteak! KamaAina Jun 2016 #103

Because the sandwich is not prepared ahead of time. ManiacJoe Jun 2016 #133

How long does it take you to buy a gram of legal recreational marijuana in Philly? Warren DeMontague Jun 2016 #140

Wow mcar Jun 2016 #148

Registering to vote takes longer than that. cliffordu Jun 2016 #163

We need to modernize our voting technology? Nt hack89 Jun 2016 #169

It's a testament to how well-run the NICS background check system is NickB79 Jun 2016 #166

This one is actually much worse: Blue_Tires Jun 2016 #173

I had one deaniac21 Jun 2016 #175

And now it's been revealed that the author of this probably committed a felony straw purchase Lee-Lee Jun 2016 #176