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24. The biggest problem with the background check system

Thu Jun 25, 2015, 12:13 PM

Jun 2015

is the states providing critical data in a timely manner. Some states are much better at it than others but there are big gaps in the database. The data is useless if it doesn't get into the system.

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"He wanted the Glock .45-caliber 'because he was small and and needed to protect himself'..." [View all] Surya Gayatri Jun 2015 OP

How did he pass the background test for a gun while facing felony drug charges? NT Eric J in MN Jun 2015 #1

As I understand it, Lindsay Jun 2015 #5

Actually, a felony indictment is sufficient to prohibit a gun sale with background check alcibiades_mystery Jun 2015 #17

But, but, the background check-system is failproof, don't cha know? Surya Gayatri Jun 2015 #6

The biggest problem with the background check system hack89 Jun 2015 #24

Well, yeah. What good is all of the data in the world if it Surya Gayatri Jun 2015 #35

Update: It turns out that he was only facing misdemeanor drug charges. Eric J in MN Jun 2015 #8

'because he needed to protect himself' onehandle Jun 2015 #2

And some of them are masquerading as liberal Democrats right on this board. Surya Gayatri Jun 2015 #3

"activist gun loons. There is an endless supply of these dangerous nuts" Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2015 #23

Guns are so protectery of peoples. onehandle Jun 2015 #25

Lies, damned lies and statistics from Controllers Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2015 #31

Gun nuttery is so womany. onehandle Jun 2015 #34

In other words you can't defend the bogus stats so you resort to the usual MO of insults. Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2015 #37

I'm sorry. Is that a friend of yours? onehandle Jun 2015 #47

Is that how you play your silly games? Then this must be a friend of yours -- Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2015 #50

You must be new to the Internets. First link that came up... onehandle Jun 2015 #52

The DOJ has been collecting stats for decades. It's known as the Unified Crime Report. Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2015 #54

This message was self-deleted by its author onehandle Jun 2015 #56

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So you must agree with this statement sarisataka Jun 2015 #39

Make your own fucking argument and leave us out of it. LeftyMom Jun 2015 #45

"Guns aren't a solution to relationship violence generally or rape in particular." Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2015 #46

Most rape occurs in the context of an existing relationship of some sort. LeftyMom Jun 2015 #49

"Most rapes" isn't all rapes. Women have the right to choose the best means of self-defense. Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2015 #53

A piece of the standard right-wing victimhood narrative. Orsino Jun 2015 #30

Am I seeing things, or does he have multiple scars horizontaly on his chest? Electric Monk Jun 2015 #4

Looks more like five nail marks to me? Surya Gayatri Jun 2015 #7

His father had pierced nipples. Pain: A Roof family trait. n/t leveymg Jun 2015 #62

The whole sorry saga is sure to come out once the trial starts. Surya Gayatri Jun 2015 #64

Typical glock owner. ileus Jun 2015 #9

Is there a required profile to become a member of the Glock club? Surya Gayatri Jun 2015 #10

You have to have a big ego and join the "There's only one gun" club. ileus Jun 2015 #11

Interesting...Would Glocks be the only handgun make whose owners Surya Gayatri Jun 2015 #12

No, 1911 guys are much worse. linuxman Jun 2015 #13

... Surya Gayatri Jun 2015 #14

"Well-adjusted." Sure. But, you may double your chances of not missing. leveymg Jun 2015 #65

Well adjusted enough to not make jokes abut suicide. linuxman Jun 2015 #69

Sig folks come in a distant second. ileus Jun 2015 #15

I don't care for Glocks 1939 Jun 2015 #67

That's why I love my Sig and CZs ileus Jun 2015 #68

They don't take harsh racist comments seriously. Baitball Blogger Jun 2015 #16

Given the context and the participants, yeah... Surya Gayatri Jun 2015 #18

That's the problem we're dealing with. Baitball Blogger Jun 2015 #19

^^^AMEN to this^^^ Surya Gayatri Jun 2015 #22

He bought a gun because he was small and didn't feel he could fight back? mentalsolstice Jun 2015 #20

Guess he didn't think of that. In any case, he boasted that he Surya Gayatri Jun 2015 #21

No way he ends up in the general population. Lizzie Poppet Jun 2015 #70

... shenmue Jun 2015 #26

Last couple of sentence nails it regarding most gun fanciers. Hoyt Jun 2015 #27

"...if you're feeling vulnerable and inadequate", not to worry. Surya Gayatri Jun 2015 #29

You have a very sexist and chauvanistic view of gun ownership. Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2015 #32

Women too have feelings of vulnerability and inadequacy... Surya Gayatri Jun 2015 #33

So rapists and stalkers are just figments of their hysterical little minds? Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2015 #36

So it's all in their heads? sarisataka Jun 2015 #40

For me, not so much comforted as reassured. Lizzie Poppet Jun 2015 #71

I don't think he would ever have needed marital arts classes. KamaAina Jun 2015 #28

Oh, I don't know about that. Jamastiene Jun 2015 #41

But he would have had to get married first. KamaAina Jun 2015 #42

Good point. Jamastiene Jun 2015 #43

I suspect that he was playing most of his friends as fools since he has been planning this for jwirr Jun 2015 #38

That is why I still think some of the ones who knew he was doing all this Jamastiene Jun 2015 #44

Hmmm...it seems he really, really wanted to kill someone/people. I am amazed nobody Rex Jun 2015 #48

His friend mentioned... TeeYiYi Jun 2015 #59

Classic cognitive dissonance: "some/none of my best friends are........(fill in the blank). Surya Gayatri Jun 2015 #61

My concern... TeeYiYi Jun 2015 #66

how come anytime there is a shooting gun nuts act like they are the victim JI7 Jun 2015 #51

Tis indeed a mystery. Why do they feel threatened? They're the ones packing the heat! LOL! Surya Gayatri Jun 2015 #55

He needed the gun because he is small? Jane Austin Jun 2015 #60

The poor thing seems to have felt inadequate, impotent, or powerless, if you will. Surya Gayatri Jun 2015 #63