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75. Making perfection the enemy of the good has some folks frothing and demonizing even hard working used car salesmen for some reason.

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Obama's approval rating among liberal democrats rises to 86% [View all] Cali_Democrat Jun 2015 OP

why? Was this poll conducted before he alligned with the GOP? eom Betty Karlson Jun 2015 #1

Poll conducted 6/15 to 6/21. nt Cali_Democrat Jun 2015 #2

Or maybe the group that self-identifies as liberal democrat Betty Karlson Jun 2015 #9

Obama's strongest approval is from liberal dems. Conservative dems is 66%. nt Cali_Democrat Jun 2015 #12

Not all Liberals think alike, my friend, and it's one of those words that mean more to the person... DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #24

Please do so. n/t Betty Karlson Jun 2015 #65

I am a big l liberal because I empathy for folks in distress... DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #107

Unfortunately the majority of people have no clue what is happening think Jun 2015 #7

+1 Alittleliberal Jun 2015 #47

yet you are counting on those same liberals getting to know Bernie real well Sheepshank Jun 2015 #90

It's an observation not an insult Alittleliberal Jun 2015 #92

I'll be sure to let them know what observations the Bernie supporters have of them. Sheepshank Jun 2015 #94

Democracy is dying Alittleliberal Jun 2015 #97

But I was told he's a Trojan horse used car salesman sufrommich Jun 2015 #3

Maybe 86% of Liberal Democrats are MineralMan Jun 2015 #15

Yes but Andy823 Jun 2015 #17

Thats because DU isn't a sounding board for Democrats... Historic NY Jun 2015 #31

It's all too confusing, he was previously called a POS Used Car Salesman Sheepshank Jun 2015 #89

reality is mixed. mopinko Jun 2015 #104

(Sigh) Just goes to show that people are NOT paying attention! LongTomH Jun 2015 #4

Hmm...maybe they're just not paying attention to the same people MineralMan Jun 2015 #11

"his support for the Keystone pipeline"--I love it when people need to fabricate reasons geek tragedy Jun 2015 #37

"Fabricate"? Or NOT Paying Attention? LOL.. like he's accusing others of doing? SMH Cha Jun 2015 #118

The derp is strong with this one nt geek tragedy Jun 2015 #121

You wouldn't know that by reading DU liberal N proud Jun 2015 #5

Yay! City Lights Jun 2015 #6

K & R Iliyah Jun 2015 #8

is that because liberal dems are pro-TPP? ...nt G_j Jun 2015 #10

No. They're just pro-Obama. MineralMan Jun 2015 #14

Got it. It's not that they support him because his policies are liberal. Dawgs Jun 2015 #19

I don't think this poll got all granular and stuff. MineralMan Jun 2015 #22

No. You're wrong. n/t Dawgs Jun 2015 #25

"LIBERAL" Democrats Dawgs Jun 2015 #13

And self-identifying Liberal Democrats at that. MineralMan Jun 2015 #18

Exactly. Dawgs Jun 2015 #20

They're probably Democratic voters, too, huh? MineralMan Jun 2015 #21

No. Not all of them. Dawgs Jun 2015 #23

Like Rachel Dolezal self-identified. progressoid Jun 2015 #45

Wow. nt sufrommich Jun 2015 #46

No, not like that at all, really. MineralMan Jun 2015 #48

Good! hrmjustin Jun 2015 #16

It will be interesting to see what they think hifiguy Jun 2015 #26

No, liberals will have a long memory of what a traitor Obama is to Democratic values emsimon33 Jun 2015 #30

Me too... Rockyj Jun 2015 #57

Me too. Enthusiast Jun 2015 #76

KnR. Excellent. Clearly those people aren't reading DU for their news analysis. nt Hekate Jun 2015 #27

clearly those people don't read much of anything, kath Jun 2015 #34

+1! Enthusiast Jun 2015 #77

Yet the Bernie supporters are looking to these same people to switch their votes...after you insult Sheepshank Jun 2015 #93

Yes! I spend time on the intertubes so I know more than everyone! snooper2 Jun 2015 #131

Thank you. DU doesn't really represent mainstream thought, which is why it's still "Underground". Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #84

Ineresting point. Jamaal510 Jun 2015 #91

Underground insinuates that it's out of the mainstream, or somehow anti-establishment as it were. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #96

They're smart.. they would only get rage and "disappointment".. their lives must be going well.. Cha Jun 2015 #111

And yet you're here. brentspeak Jun 2015 #127

I've been here since 2002, when Kephra used to fill Latest Breaking News with in-depth info Hekate Jun 2015 #136

Not after today! After today many liberals will rate him among the worse presidents. emsimon33 Jun 2015 #28

Sorry we've heard that before. Historic NY Jun 2015 #33

Obama has been pushing TPA for some time. In fact, he was in Congress a little over a week ago Cali_Democrat Jun 2015 #39

He's been pushing it for a while. geek tragedy Jun 2015 #40

Because we'd be so much better off under McCain or Romney? onenote Jun 2015 #61

No, you're wrong. Cha Jun 2015 #112

MAKES NO SENSE TO ME!! ChiciB1 Jun 2015 #29

IT DOES TO ME! GOOD SENSE. Cha Jun 2015 #113

Well we will see how popular his legacy is when TPP kills everyone's wages davidn3600 Jun 2015 #32

Keep believin' David! tridim Jun 2015 #38

^^^this mopinko Jun 2015 #106

or when TPP reveals to have been a minor bad thing instead of the Apocalypse nt geek tragedy Jun 2015 #42

Proof that DU is not the real world. Hell, DU ain't even the Democratic Party. Further proof: Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #35

smirks approval among republicans is high too Doctor_J Jun 2015 #36

WTF does that mean? tridim Jun 2015 #43

Not all of DU,but yeah,there's some weird shit sufrommich Jun 2015 #49

It means some people support the team no matter what. progressoid Jun 2015 #50

I'm a Democrat, I have been for my entire life. I support my party. tridim Jun 2015 #51

Nope. Go for it. progressoid Jun 2015 #54

I have NEVER said that there should be no criticism of the President. tridim Jun 2015 #56

I didn't say you claimed that there shouldn't be criticism. progressoid Jun 2015 #67

Post removed Post removed Jun 2015 #73

I Have A Hard Time Believing That colsohlibgal Jun 2015 #41

Maybe that's a sign that it's soul-searching time for you? nt tridim Jun 2015 #44

Not paying attention to the "Sky Is Falling" brigade? I'm guessing that's probably a good thing. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #52

Maybe they just need to "become informed"...like all the women and minorities who support Hillary: NYC Liberal Jun 2015 #58

I hate to keep making this prediction, but BS will top out somewhere between 20%-23%. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #64

upthread, the message is that people don't know Bernie yet Sheepshank Jun 2015 #98

I have a feeling I know who they mean when they refer to "low information voters". I'll leave it... Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #101

"Disagrees with you" is different from "not paying attention" Recursion Jun 2015 #55

Don't "believe it".. it's not really important. The important thing is this country appreciates Cha Jun 2015 #109

This message was self-deleted by its author pintobean Jun 2015 #53

So what? Is he running again? n/t djean111 Jun 2015 #59

Obama's approval rating among conservative democrats rises to 86% d_legendary1 Jun 2015 #60

He has lower approval ratings with people who identify as sufrommich Jun 2015 #63

Obama's approval rating among conservative dems is 66%. It's at the link. nt Cali_Democrat Jun 2015 #66

How is that even possible? d_legendary1 Jun 2015 #68

Obama has polled higher with liberal democrats and lower sufrommich Jun 2015 #69

But this is according to Gallup d_legendary1 Jun 2015 #129

it must be because of all that transparency Angry Dragon Jun 2015 #62

Passionately unrecommended......... Enthusiast Jun 2015 #70

Bullshit polls. n/t PowerToThePeople Jun 2015 #71

That would explain a lot. Enthusiast Jun 2015 #82

But they're not reeeaaalll liberals. wyldwolf Jun 2015 #72

Yes, the oh-so-"Liberal" Democrats who apparently love the TPP. Maedhros Jun 2015 #74

Making perfection the enemy of the good has some folks frothing and demonizing even hard working used car salesmen for some reason. Fred Sanders Jun 2015 #75

Only if the definition of 'Liberal Democrat' is Corporate Sellout FiveGoodMen Jun 2015 #78

I'm in the 86% lovemydog Jun 2015 #79

They certainly didn't talk to anybody I know Trajan Jun 2015 #81

Well you're talking with me and I'm pretty friendly. lovemydog Jun 2015 #85

+1. Some seem upset that they don't get to define "liberal" for us. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #83

Totally. Even though I'm supporting Sanders for now, lovemydog Jun 2015 #115

Interesting pintobean Jun 2015 #80

86er Also...I support my Kenyan, Muslin, Communist, Ryano42 Jun 2015 #86

Cool! DCBob Jun 2015 #87

I see people have already started making excuses Jamaal510 Jun 2015 #88

yup...the insults hurled at the very people they hope to win to Bernie's side. Sheepshank Jun 2015 #100

OF course Andy823 Jun 2015 #102

'Some of them hurling the insults really don't want to see "ANY" democrat elected...not their goal.' freshwest Jun 2015 #133

I know, right? lovemydog Jun 2015 #114

That is hard to understand. avebury Jun 2015 #95

Clinton was adored until people got an eyeful of NAFTA and Glass Steagal Prism Jun 2015 #99

sure...people are reassessing Bush and his popularity poll numbers are rising Sheepshank Jun 2015 #103

George W. Bush was the worst pre . . . . Prism Jun 2015 #110

When will the DU "liberals" finally figure out they are on the fringe of reality? DCBob Jun 2015 #105

I've been here ten years and I haven't seen any evidence of self-awareness onenote Jun 2015 #122

This is what counts.. the country.. not some little pocket of Cha Jun 2015 #108

Hi Cha! Yes, the country. lovemydog Jun 2015 #116

Right! It's doesn't matter that there on those on DU who don't appreciate this President.. Cha Jun 2015 #117

Very good point Cha. lovemydog Jun 2015 #119

A poll is "what counts"? brentspeak Jun 2015 #128

I didn't click on the link. hay rick Jun 2015 #120

To summarize: OilemFirchen Jun 2015 #123

You forgot " they're paid Hillary operatives!!". nt sufrommich Jun 2015 #126

K & R Lisa D Jun 2015 #124

DU rec... SidDithers Jun 2015 #125

OK. But *every* Rightwinger here on DU calls himself a "liberal". I think some gaming is going on. Romulox Jun 2015 #130

And why exactly do YOU think you're the one who should be able to determine... Cali_Democrat Jun 2015 #134

Appeal to objective historic standards. nt Romulox Jun 2015 #135

K & R Scurrilous Jun 2015 #132