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MH1

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14. It was not Kerry's failure to respond, it was the PUBLIC's gullibility, and failure to investigate.
Sat May 5, 2012, 11:39 AM
May 2012

It was the PUBLIC's failure to comprehend the most BASIC fact of political campaigns. A campaign ad is an AD. If some ad is selling the latest vacuum cleaner by Brand A and dissing the competitor's product, who just says "oh okay, I'll go buy Brand A right now, because I know that everything they stated in their ad is true and not taken out of context at all!!" No one. Except of course the exceedingly stupid, or someone who is in a serious hurry to buy a vacuum cleaner and really doesn't want to be bothered to actually figure out which is better.

After the first swiftboat ad appeared - which excerpted, out of context, Kerry's SFRC testimony, as "attacking the troops", I needed just a few minutes to find Kerry's SFRC testimony online, read it, and understand the true context of his words, and realize what total b.s. the message of the ad was. Likewise, most of the relevant stuff that was raised by other ads was easily available online throughout the campaign. (And you had a well-respected historian in Douglas Brinkley who had already documented it all.) But I bet if you asked 100 voters you would not find 2 who even thought to look for the real information.

THAT's the problem. Well, what do we do about it, I don't know. Just keep getting the full information out there, or point up how ridiculous the attack is, or divert attention to all the things that are effed up in GOP ideas. But when the public just doesn't give a shit about facts, or doesn't even realize that a political campaign is a MARKETING campaign, then the best marketer is going to win. Not necessarily the best person for the presidency.

Focusing on the fact that Obama killed Bin Laden will help Democrats, not hurt us. JDPriestly May 2012 #1
Whether or not Swiftboating Obama is foolhardy, should Democrats ProgressiveEconomist May 2012 #3
"Mike Huckabee is taking the lead . . ." asjr May 2012 #2
It won't work malaise May 2012 #4
Kerry responded, repeatedly; the press didn't pick it up bigtree May 2012 #5
'The President and his campaign are already responding' How? ProgressiveEconomist May 2012 #7
here's one response bigtree May 2012 #12
The whole thing could be diffused with just one ad Gman May 2012 #6
The FACT is that you are repeating a media FALLACY. Kerry responded immediately to the first attack blm May 2012 #8
"30 page response" "Faxed a letter to station managers"... ProgressiveEconomist May 2012 #11
You didn't read down, did you? Kerry hit it every time and media REFUSED to acknowledge it. blm May 2012 #17
Couldn't Kerry have bypassed the media ProgressiveEconomist May 2012 #18
You're missing the part where this IS all about lessons learned about the media and applying blm May 2012 #23
I'm not concerned about "the media climate at the time". I'm concerned about November 2012. ProgressiveEconomist May 2012 #24
Just didn't want you building on a fallacy. That FCC ruling in 2005 was CRUCIAL to media's attitude blm May 2012 #27
Wayne Fucking Dumond. That's how you crush Huckabee. msanthrope May 2012 #9
TY for reminding us about Huckabee's Willie Horton. Do you know anything about ProgressiveEconomist May 2012 #25
"Swiftboating" sendero May 2012 #10
"Please find a better way to characterize it". Any one-word ProgressiveEconomist May 2012 #13
It was not Kerry's failure to respond, it was the PUBLIC's gullibility, and failure to investigate. MH1 May 2012 #14
Like Higgins said to Condor: "What if they don't print it?" Iggo May 2012 #15
How is this 'Swiftboating'? Or is 'Swiftboating' a general all-around term now for coalition_unwilling May 2012 #16
Kerry was also attacked by other Vietnam vets. GoCubsGo May 2012 #19
Shit, I think a few 2-minute ads about Romney driving for 12 hours with his coalition_unwilling May 2012 #21
I watch fox consistantly about 20% of the time tapermaker May 2012 #20
"It's not just Huckabee" But Huckabee is hawking a panel of former Navy Seals, ProgressiveEconomist May 2012 #22
NO Navy Seals? Huckabee seems to have engaged in false advertising ProgressiveEconomist May 2012 #26
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