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In reply to the discussion: Just saw 12 years a slave [View all]hlthe2b
(102,304 posts)92. It is a bit hard for me to think that those who bought/sold and "owned" slaves...
would somehow consider this "property" to be members of the family in MOST cases. The very fact of "owning" another human being sets forth a division--they become the "other"...
I'm sure some slaveholders were more compassionate than others in how they treated their slaves, some of the "house slaves" earned some endearment in the famly, and certainly not all beat and violently abused them. But, the exceptions very likely do not make the rule. Having lived in the deep South during much of my "formative" years, I heard this assertion that "slaves were members of the family" over and over and over again. I think it is largely an excuse for the inexcusable acts of their ancestors.
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Slaves were property. I'm sure some people took better care of their property than others.
DemocratSinceBirth
Aug 2014
#1
Yes, uncle and auntie would still be hunted down with dogs if they walked away,whipped, sold,
Gormy Cuss
Aug 2014
#63
The slaves treated as members of the family were those who worked in the house.
MohRokTah
Aug 2014
#3
And usually were actually members of the family through the male owners. nt
kelliekat44
Aug 2014
#125
I believe the number of slaves were higher. In the census report a slave was 3/5 of a free man
LiberalArkie
Aug 2014
#271
The above chart from 1860 seems to have actual counts of slaves in the population columns
Gormy Cuss
Aug 2014
#396
You don't condone slavery, but you are pretty sure slavery was not that bad. Have you lived your
Squinch
Aug 2014
#23
when a slave grew too old to work, the vet was called. they were put to death like an old dog
Liberal_in_LA
Aug 2014
#11
they were treated like the family member you get to rape, beat and kill at will
Liberal_in_LA
Aug 2014
#13
Someone else beat me to the alert, and this crap OP was left by a jury. DU has jumped the shark.
Squinch
Aug 2014
#14
That is a seriously disgusting jury summary. Some corner has been turned and it feels
Squinch
Aug 2014
#25
Well, I guess we'd better tell Skinner to change the name of this forum then.
Starry Messenger
Aug 2014
#118
It is not a lesson at all, its like a school teacher who is unable to discuss serious matters.
elleng
Aug 2014
#178
The OP made an absurd assertion, one that anyone with even a rudimentary understanding
Gormy Cuss
Aug 2014
#198
Or any CPAC talking points, either! Must be in the *shadow* Democratic Party platform.
freshwest
Aug 2014
#277
Are you serious? You think that post was some naive student and not a RW troll? nt
brush
Aug 2014
#348
There is plenty of information in this thread that prove the racism and bigotry.
Starry Messenger
Aug 2014
#342
would you also want to educate people who argue rape or murder is "not always so bad"?
bettyellen
Aug 2014
#385
And of course, none of the activist jurors who demand "education" for the OP
Starry Messenger
Aug 2014
#153
I'm glad the "People's Jury" on this thread have caused the OP to have a month-long vacation.
Starry Messenger
Aug 2014
#315
There are some subjects where, if the poster is asking for "education," there is no question
Squinch
Aug 2014
#257
It's always interesting to see whose opinions get rated as worth hearing, isn't it?
Starry Messenger
Aug 2014
#401
This isn't ignorance. This poster is fully aware that slavery is bad. Because everyone is fully
Squinch
Aug 2014
#302
But if this were someone who was brainwashed all his life about slavery, he would not be seeking out
Squinch
Aug 2014
#326
You need a discussion about whether slavery was bad? Really? Can't we just accept that as a given?
Squinch
Aug 2014
#305
because it makes it sound like reasonable people can disagree on whether slaves were mistreated
CreekDog
Aug 2014
#410
No, you HAD 4, that is vieable by anybody when looking at an explanation of your % Jury.
MohRokTah
Aug 2014
#263
Sorry, buddy. There is nothing that sets you apart from the worst elements of the GOP.
Squinch
Aug 2014
#30
We ARE better, because we are not stupid enough to think slavery was pleasant.
bravenak
Aug 2014
#38
are you upset that we can't discuss whether or not slaves were mistreated Skippy?
CreekDog
Aug 2014
#411
Bracing for your wide-eyed holocaust denial OP. And the shitty jury that lets that stand, too.
Squinch
Aug 2014
#32
From what I've read, it depended on region, master, crop and duties of the slave
LittleBlue
Aug 2014
#36
One thing the movie shows is that there was no such thing as "good" slave owners.
Coventina
Aug 2014
#47
Exactly. He feels "bad" about it, but not bad enough to change his behavior.
Coventina
Aug 2014
#335
'Treating your slaves well'? 'Treat them as family'? Wow. So much hypocrisy and irony
Lint Head
Aug 2014
#57
When I see people stirring denialist shit like this, though, I do tend to wonder.
Squinch
Aug 2014
#133
What 90% of Americans did at the time was evil. Face it. I am Ojibwe, and what white
catbyte
Aug 2014
#175
Nowhere did I indict anyone. What percentage do you think were aware of the holocaust?
arcane1
Aug 2014
#154
We're negotiating history now? News-flash: slavery is in itself mistreatment. Forced labor.
arcane1
Aug 2014
#168
Too bad about the OP, but this hide puts the poster on forced vacation, at least.
cyberswede
Aug 2014
#244
"I can not believe human beings are so evil as to mistreat a whole class of people"
sufrommich
Aug 2014
#145
That's self serving bullshit, your OP is nothing but a questioning of the trutfulness of the book's
Bluenorthwest
Aug 2014
#123
Solomon Northup's memoir--Twelve Years a Slave--was written after he was rescued
mnhtnbb
Aug 2014
#111
It is a bit hard for me to think that those who bought/sold and "owned" slaves...
hlthe2b
Aug 2014
#92
My family did not have plantations or large farms. We occasionally owned slaves.
ieoeja
Aug 2014
#390
The stock answer for those who have lost the argument and can't admit it. And don't look now
Squinch
Aug 2014
#266
This entire OP and all of your replies, and the jury who left it are pure distilled idiocy.
Starry Messenger
Aug 2014
#104
Yeah, I was the alerter. I thought the intentions of the OP were clear as glass, but he got a 2-5
Starry Messenger
Aug 2014
#232
they were enslaved, not anything like family. They were imprisoned and denied freedom of choice
bigtree
Aug 2014
#161
The obvious flaw in that argument is what happened after they were freed.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Aug 2014
#196
maybe you can explain further to everyone how you came to this curious point of view.
Voice for Peace
Aug 2014
#210
I am really hoping those are the "you guys have to see this troll in action" variety of recs.
Squinch
Aug 2014
#310
This OP is nauseating and disingenuous to the point of trollery. No answer will "educate" the poster
Hekate
Aug 2014
#303
In the author's note to one of Barbara Hambly's Benjamin January novels
Lydia Leftcoast
Aug 2014
#318
Is this your professor, here? Dr. Gwen Fortune. Can you please name at least one of her suggested
Jefferson23
Aug 2014
#325
It was all evil. Didn't you read the slave narratives in history class? Slavery is evil.
applegrove
Aug 2014
#344
OMG, now I know why this has so few recs, it was actually much worse for many people ...
slipslidingaway
Aug 2014
#352
I think you should start an entirely new OP, would have been locked on DU2, but hey...
NYC_SKP
Aug 2014
#423
Well, I finally found the post that prompted your poll, yay. I heading down to the pool.
NYC_SKP
Aug 2014
#426
I fully agree. It must be that as we age, it feels colder, but I'm undeterred!
NYC_SKP
Aug 2014
#430