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Rex

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26. Yes. The last thing we need is a Rambo general all pissed off cuz he

Mon Mar 17, 2014, 01:16 PM

Mar 2014

is missing his chance to kill some Reds. Of course if things were much worse...say McCain had won the election, we would all be piles of radioactive ash by now! Obama has a cool head on his shoulders and I am thankful for it.

But yeah...those were some of the weakest sanctions I've ever seen. It must come from the frustration that Russia does not need anything from us or our allies. Hard to place economic sanctions on a country thats population is use to standing in line for toilet paper and potatoes.

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FACT SHEET: Ukraine-Related Sanctions (updated) [View all] ProSense Mar 2014 OP

Whoop-dee-shit. geek tragedy Mar 2014 #1

Well, dimissing these and ProSense Mar 2014 #2

at some point people will stop believing him when he engages in tough talk. geek tragedy Mar 2014 #3

You know, ProSense Mar 2014 #5

no less effective than these 'sanctions' geek tragedy Mar 2014 #7

Again, ProSense Mar 2014 #10

I am against talking tough and then acting weak. geek tragedy Mar 2014 #12

You ProSense Mar 2014 #14

targeting Putin's plutocratic buddies, or doing something of actual economic consequence geek tragedy Mar 2014 #16

Why do you keep insisting that his "plutocratic buddies" weren't? n/t ProSense Mar 2014 #17

7 officials, that's it. 7. all in the government. geek tragedy Mar 2014 #19

There are more than seven people listed in the OP, and ProSense Mar 2014 #24

4 of them are Ukrainians or Crimeans. geek tragedy Mar 2014 #25

"when the plutocrats start losing money, then we'll know the EU and US are serious " ProSense Mar 2014 #28

I would have thought this would be praised treestar Mar 2014 #45

except it doesn't go after the 1%--it is very likely that not a dime geek tragedy Mar 2014 #48

In your other thread one of them is treestar Mar 2014 #49

The Russians are not scared of us in the least bit. Rex Mar 2014 #4

seems to be a bipartisan area of agreement when it comes to Russia. geek tragedy Mar 2014 #6

I agree, we have huge problems in America right now. Rex Mar 2014 #9

I think Putin realizes now that the Europe and China don't have any stomach for geek tragedy Mar 2014 #13

Plus he knows good and well NO country wants to be responsible for starting WWIII. Rex Mar 2014 #15

Russia's always going to be authoritarian. That's just how they roll there. geek tragedy Mar 2014 #21

True, my wishing for a democratic government to emerge is just that. Wishing. Rex Mar 2014 #22

best we can do is what he hope for our own country, that its national self-esteem not geek tragedy Mar 2014 #23

Yes. The last thing we need is a Rambo general all pissed off cuz he Rex Mar 2014 #26

I get the impulse to avoid pissing the Russians off and being cautious, I also geek tragedy Mar 2014 #36

You think that was considered when the sanctions were imposed? n/t ProSense Mar 2014 #8

I don't really know, but I do think Putin is making a huge mistake Rex Mar 2014 #11

Sanctioning the plutocrats won't work -- they have too many friends in the West. FarCenter Mar 2014 #18

I think it was an attempt at Western Justice. Rex Mar 2014 #20

So it would work if they didn't have "too many friends in the West"? ProSense Mar 2014 #27

You could look them up yourself, and assess how vulnerable they are. FarCenter Mar 2014 #33

What is that supposed to be a list of: friends in the "West"? n/t ProSense Mar 2014 #43

It is the list of the top 10 Russian billionaires, i.e. the leading oligarchs. FarCenter Mar 2014 #44

Nuke 'em! Nuke 'em! Nuke 'em! YeeHaw!!!!! grahamhgreen Mar 2014 #50

Needs a little more teeth, though if this is just a preview, that's good. NuclearDem Mar 2014 #29

Big fucking deal. Weak-assed bullshit. That ought to teach Puti! nt ChisolmTrailDem Mar 2014 #30

Yeah, but look at the reaction it got from you. n/t ProSense Mar 2014 #31

Oh, forgot to ask, what would you consider not "weak-assed bullshit"? n/t ProSense Mar 2014 #32

Well, the sanctions could have included Puti, Medvedev, and other deputies. Also, ChisolmTrailDem Mar 2014 #35

The singling out of individuals seems really petty - and a little weird, imo. reformist2 Mar 2014 #34

Weak, is the word. nt ChisolmTrailDem Mar 2014 #37

Didn't you just single out individuals above? n/t ProSense Mar 2014 #39

With Puti and Medvedev, etc, it would be less weak, but still weak. Anything less than a total ChisolmTrailDem Mar 2014 #40

Well, ProSense Mar 2014 #42

What is the procedure for expulsion from the UN Security Council? treestar Mar 2014 #46

It's typical. n/t ProSense Mar 2014 #38

It's weak. nt ChisolmTrailDem Mar 2014 #41

Kick & highly recommended! William769 Mar 2014 #47

K&R sheshe2 Mar 2014 #51

Thanks for posting and passing this on. We'll see what develops. pinto Mar 2014 #52

You're welcome. n/t ProSense Mar 2014 #53

Londongrad Dealmakers Face Sanctions Hit After $180 Billion Boom ProSense Mar 2014 #54