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In reply to the discussion: looks like russia could be invading the ukraine [View all]muriel_volestrangler
(101,426 posts)34. Well, that's about 20 hours old now, if it's the 2 in Crimea
so I hope CNN or MSNBC aren't painting that as "Russia could be invading the Ukraine". I've just watched the BBC, Sky, Al Jazeera and RT, and none of them are talking about a possible 'invasion'. Some did show some daytime pictures (so at least 8 hours old) of Russian armoured personnel carriers parked by a Crimean road. That is probably this:
Russian troops have moved into Crimea in what Moscow is calling a mission to protect Black Sea Fleets positions but which the Ukrainian government has denounced as an armed intervention.
The Russian foreign ministry said Friday that it had informed the Ukrainian government that armoured units from the Black Sea Fleet base near Sevastopol had entered Crimea in order to protect fleet positions.
The Ukrainian side was also passed a note regarding the movement of armoured vehicles of the Russian Black Sea Fleet in Crimea, which is happening in full accordance with the foundation Russian-Ukrainian agreement on the Black Sea Fleet, the ministry said in a statement posted on its website on Friday afternoon.
In the same note the Russian foreign ministry said it had declined a Ukrainian request for bilateral consultations on events in Crimea because they are the result of recent internal political processes in Ukraine.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=741586
The Russian foreign ministry said Friday that it had informed the Ukrainian government that armoured units from the Black Sea Fleet base near Sevastopol had entered Crimea in order to protect fleet positions.
The Ukrainian side was also passed a note regarding the movement of armoured vehicles of the Russian Black Sea Fleet in Crimea, which is happening in full accordance with the foundation Russian-Ukrainian agreement on the Black Sea Fleet, the ministry said in a statement posted on its website on Friday afternoon.
In the same note the Russian foreign ministry said it had declined a Ukrainian request for bilateral consultations on events in Crimea because they are the result of recent internal political processes in Ukraine.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=741586
The vehicles were, I think, already in Crimea; it's provocative to send them out onto the roads at a time like this, but, not, I'd say, an 'invasion' (a commentator on RT was denying any Russian troops had been seen in Crimea, however - I suppose if they remained inside the vehicles, that would be technically true, but it's pretty outrageous denial of facts, really).
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THANK GOD we totally have a shitload of moral authority to tell them not to do that.
elehhhhna
Feb 2014
#3
That's not going to happen. Russia has too many nuclear weapons to be involved in another world war
JVS
Feb 2014
#8
but i could mean an escalation to troops on the ground. theyll come home from Afghanistan
leftyohiolib
Feb 2014
#11
no i was speaking of us troops and that was speculation. i probably should have kept that to
leftyohiolib
Feb 2014
#26
It would be helpful to describe *why* someone thinks "russia could be invading the ukraine"
muriel_volestrangler
Feb 2014
#15
put on cnn or msnbc . im not a reporter , well now there are tanks moving in
leftyohiolib
Feb 2014
#18
I don't have CNN or MSNBC. 'Tanks' is a useful thing to say, though
muriel_volestrangler
Feb 2014
#20
oh sorry there is video of troops on the ground a video on utube of helicopters flying in
leftyohiolib
Feb 2014
#21
Well, the status of the crimea is not as clear cut as some would have us believe.
Democracyinkind
Feb 2014
#28
The Ukraine means border and that's what it was once called so I heard. I'm sure
Cleita
Feb 2014
#40