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muriel_volestrangler

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34. Well, that's about 20 hours old now, if it's the 2 in Crimea
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 08:26 PM
Feb 2014

so I hope CNN or MSNBC aren't painting that as "Russia could be invading the Ukraine". I've just watched the BBC, Sky, Al Jazeera and RT, and none of them are talking about a possible 'invasion'. Some did show some daytime pictures (so at least 8 hours old) of Russian armoured personnel carriers parked by a Crimean road. That is probably this:

Russian troops have moved into Crimea in what Moscow is calling a mission to “protect Black Sea Fleet’s positions” but which the Ukrainian government has denounced as an “armed intervention.”

The Russian foreign ministry said Friday that it had informed the Ukrainian government that armoured units from the Black Sea Fleet base near Sevastopol had entered Crimea in order to protect fleet positions.

“The Ukrainian side was also passed a note regarding the movement of armoured vehicles of the Russian Black Sea Fleet in Crimea, which is happening in full accordance with the foundation Russian-Ukrainian agreement on the Black Sea Fleet,” the ministry said in a statement posted on its website on Friday afternoon.

In the same note the Russian foreign ministry said it had declined a Ukrainian request for “bilateral consultations” on events in Crimea because they are “the result of recent internal political processes in Ukraine.”

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=741586


The vehicles were, I think, already in Crimea; it's provocative to send them out onto the roads at a time like this, but, not, I'd say, an 'invasion' (a commentator on RT was denying any Russian troops had been seen in Crimea, however - I suppose if they remained inside the vehicles, that would be technically true, but it's pretty outrageous denial of facts, really).
Oh ****! applegrove Feb 2014 #1
Russia loves to invade nations during and/or after the Olympics. morningfog Feb 2014 #2
whereas we do it whenever the fuck we want elehhhhna Feb 2014 #4
+infinity!!!! Nt newfie11 Feb 2014 #5
We never stop doing it. Waronterra foreva! morningfog Feb 2014 #7
...especially when we are being lied to by our glorious dear leaders. L0oniX Feb 2014 #37
The truth about South Ossetia polly7 Feb 2014 #16
THANK GOD we totally have a shitload of moral authority to tell them not to do that. elehhhhna Feb 2014 #3
^^^^this^^^^ yes really ^^^^this^^^^ L0oniX Feb 2014 #38
They are reporting it on MSNBC too. Cleita Feb 2014 #6
That's not going to happen. Russia has too many nuclear weapons to be involved in another world war JVS Feb 2014 #8
I hope so. n/t Cleita Feb 2014 #9
but i could mean an escalation to troops on the ground. theyll come home from Afghanistan leftyohiolib Feb 2014 #11
Are you talking about American troops? BKH70041 Feb 2014 #13
not american they are russian troops but rhetoric is escalating leftyohiolib Feb 2014 #17
Just so I'll understand... BKH70041 Feb 2014 #22
no i was speaking of us troops and that was speculation. i probably should have kept that to leftyohiolib Feb 2014 #26
No biggie BKH70041 Feb 2014 #35
And they know they'd get their asses kicked. AverageJoe90 Feb 2014 #29
They'd give as good as they get in a nuclear war. JVS Mar 2014 #42
Wouldn't really matter now, would it? AverageJoe90 Mar 2014 #43
I'd chock it up to fearmongering, TBH. AverageJoe90 Feb 2014 #27
Not really a suprise Drale Feb 2014 #10
im watching a video of russian helicopter flying into ukraine leftyohiolib Feb 2014 #12
nothing a hot cup of polonium won't cure. Putin loves the stuff. Pretzel_Warrior Feb 2014 #14
It would be helpful to describe *why* someone thinks "russia could be invading the ukraine" muriel_volestrangler Feb 2014 #15
put on cnn or msnbc . im not a reporter , well now there are tanks moving in leftyohiolib Feb 2014 #18
I don't have CNN or MSNBC. 'Tanks' is a useful thing to say, though muriel_volestrangler Feb 2014 #20
oh sorry there is video of troops on the ground a video on utube of helicopters flying in leftyohiolib Feb 2014 #21
More likely Crimea will ask Russia to take it dipsydoodle Feb 2014 #24
What they said is that there were reports of Russian troops Cleita Feb 2014 #31
Well, that's about 20 hours old now, if it's the 2 in Crimea muriel_volestrangler Feb 2014 #34
Well you know more than me and MSNBC is talking about the Cleita Feb 2014 #36
We need to stay out of it LittleBlue Feb 2014 #19
no we are not but u know the us will stick it's nose in it leftyohiolib Feb 2014 #23
Yep LittleBlue Feb 2014 #25
Which side would we take? I guess it would depend on what treaties Cleita Feb 2014 #32
Well, the status of the crimea is not as clear cut as some would have us believe. Democracyinkind Feb 2014 #28
Carnival in Crimea polly7 Feb 2014 #30
the last paragraph can not be repeated enough. nt Democracyinkind Feb 2014 #33
It is not "the Ukraine". It is just Ukraine. n/t RebelOne Feb 2014 #39
The Ukraine means border and that's what it was once called so I heard. I'm sure Cleita Feb 2014 #40
Thank you customerserviceguy Feb 2014 #41
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