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Hassin Bin Sober

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83. Agree. I have to think they were a little blind sided by the disconnect.

Sun Feb 16, 2014, 04:57 PM

Feb 2014

I have to say I too am a little perplexed by the apparent juror(s) logic. Perplexed enough that I don't think it is logic at all.

Please allow me a little foray in to a hypothetical (or mental masturbation):

If I was a juror and I truly believed the kid had a shotgun and seriously menaced Dunn with said shotgun, I wouldn't vote to convict on the attempted murder charges. At that point, in my mind, all bets are off and it's OK to shoot at the car. I'm not going to put someone away for life if they had a shotgun pointed at them and TRULY were in fear for their life.

But I don't believe Dunn's story for one second.

I have a theory that maybe the bigot hold-out on the jury dug his heels in on the murder charge but relented on the attempted murder charges - thinking he was doing his "cause" a favor.

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I don't think Michael Dunn is enjoying his Pyrrhic victory. [View all] DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2014 OP

Maybe he understands demwing Feb 2014 #1

he is one evil sob riverwalker Feb 2014 #2

I've been waiting to see that smirk give way to tears.. Kahuna Feb 2014 #64

Is that him crying about his dog? MoonRiver Feb 2014 #68

His face in the courtroom as the verdict was read was priceless. bravenak Feb 2014 #3

All the life was drained out of his face when (all) the verdicts were read/nt DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2014 #4

Wasn't it beautiful! bravenak Feb 2014 #9

I couldn't even work my face into a frown like his if I tried. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2014 #10

My mom said that ugly face was what convicted him. bravenak Feb 2014 #15

I thought Zimmerman was guilty as sin. He provoked the confrontation. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2014 #17

I gots to watch it again and try that out. bravenak Feb 2014 #21

What kind of person shoots somebody and then orders a pizza? DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2014 #26

Tony would go home after and eat meat straight outta the fridge. Then have a panic attack. bravenak Feb 2014 #46

That's true DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2014 #49

I miss Tony.nt bravenak Feb 2014 #50

I saw Enough Said because he was in it. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2014 #51

Was it good? bravenak Feb 2014 #53

Yes, And his character is very un Tony like DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2014 #55

Good list. bravenak Feb 2014 #56

Please start an OP with that! MoonRiver Feb 2014 #69

Wonderful to see the guilty pay seveneyes Feb 2014 #31

hope his cellmate has one of these riverwalker Feb 2014 #6

LOL! bravenak Feb 2014 #7

Errr merr gerrrd! rdharma Feb 2014 #34

LOL... DonViejo Feb 2014 #39

I feel sorry for his dog Auntie Bush Feb 2014 #18

I hope his dogs have found someone else to love. bravenak Feb 2014 #19

I admit I thoroughly enjoyed that TorchTheWitch Feb 2014 #52

His fiancé seemed like she was scared of him. bravenak Feb 2014 #54

that's why I think he continued firing as the car was fleeing TorchTheWitch Feb 2014 #57

That thing about the vomiting, I thought that too. bravenak Feb 2014 #58

Who orders a pizza to calm an upset stomach?/nt DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2014 #71

The interview with Dunns neighbor said Politicalboi Feb 2014 #59

that interview is what made me feel for her TorchTheWitch Feb 2014 #60

Hope she doesn't get involved with another Dunn. "We are comfortable with the familiar, raccoon Feb 2014 #65

Dunn was clearly a psychopath ReRe Feb 2014 #74

Great post. nt raccoon Feb 2014 #66

Mr Gen JustAnotherGen Feb 2014 #80

I loved it so much!! bravenak Feb 2014 #85

He hasn't won anything. Brigid Feb 2014 #5

Hence the Pyrrhic victory./nt DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2014 #8

A Pyrrhic victory requires a victory, rudolph the red Feb 2014 #33

You know what's worse than a Pyrrhic victory? BlueCheese Feb 2014 #63

What Do You Mean By "Victory".... Laxman Feb 2014 #11

Hence the Pyrrhic victory (REDUX)/NT DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2014 #12

Thanks much for the explanation and discussion... DonViejo Feb 2014 #72

Yeah, just on the murder charge he's more likely get Murder 1 Yo_Mama Feb 2014 #73

Michael Dunn's life from now on: freshwest Feb 2014 #13

The ghost of Mr. Rogers must have stole his sweater back.?NT DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2014 #14

What victory? n/t PoliticAverse Feb 2014 #16

Hence the Pyrrhic victory (REDUX) DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2014 #20

DAMN! bravenak Feb 2014 #23

In order for a victory to be 'pyrrhic' there must be a victory. You think Dunn was victorious today? PoliticAverse Feb 2014 #32

This is like a debate of "what the meaning of is is" DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2014 #38

The phony victory was NOT getting convicted of 1st degree murder. bravenak Feb 2014 #43

No, You Need To Define.... Laxman Feb 2014 #45

He won by not losing on murder one. bravenak Feb 2014 #47

Agree. I have to think they were a little blind sided by the disconnect. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2014 #83

I know what 'pyrrhic victory' means, there is no victory at all here. PoliticAverse Feb 2014 #25

The PV was in NO VERDICT ON MURDER ONE. The future remains to be seen. WinkyDink Feb 2014 #30

He will be retried, a mistrial is more of a stalemate than any type of victory. n/t PoliticAverse Feb 2014 #37

Anything short of a guilty verdict is a win for the defendant. It's much better than a stalemate. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2014 #44

He hung the jury on the charge that came with the most punishment. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2014 #36

If a mistrial is a 'pyrrhic victory' it would be so because of the lawyer's costs. PoliticAverse Feb 2014 #42

Ya may have to explain it to 'em TDale313 Feb 2014 #41

I had noticed that the smugness was missing from his face. nt arthritisR_US Feb 2014 #22

Well, at least he hung the jury on the first count. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2014 #24

Indeed, it will be befitting of his narcissistic self. nt arthritisR_US Feb 2014 #29

Don't people know what is meant by "Pyrrhic Victory"? Or how to Google? WinkyDink Feb 2014 #27

The victory to date, of not being found to have murdered a young lad and arthritisR_US Feb 2014 #35

I don't understand why the thought would even come up? Jenoch Feb 2014 #28

How could he etherealtruth Feb 2014 #40

"Pyrrhic victory" Definition & Etymology Cha Feb 2014 #48

+1 Boom Sound 416 Feb 2014 #62

I hope they retry him BainsBane Feb 2014 #61

Does anyone know if the sentences are consecutive or concurrent on the convictions and Vinca Feb 2014 #67

I believe it's up to the judge. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2014 #70

In Florida, sentences for crimes involving guns MUST be consecutive rocktivity Feb 2014 #75

That would make him 112 upon his release./NT DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2014 #76

Mark O'Meara (no, not my favorite person) OldHippieChick Feb 2014 #78

Going to jail for 20 years is not a pyrric victory bluestateguy Feb 2014 #77

Actually the minimum he can go away for is 65 years and the maximum is 105 years. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2014 #79

Yep bluestateguy Feb 2014 #81

Victory? The only victory Mr Dunn got was the music was turned down for Jordan Davis forever. Fla Dem Feb 2014 #82

Ties always go to the runner -- Pyrrhic victory. rocktivity Feb 2014 #84