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In reply to the discussion: Glenn Greenwald Unethically Taped Witnesses While Working for Matt Hale, White Supremacist. [View all]freshwest
(53,661 posts)203. Yes, the big money is there. I'm not sure who, but a DUer posted this and I saved it to read :
But there are, on the internet, also some individuals, and groups, who clearly promote agendas that coincide with the same agendas as the wealthiest and most powerful interests on the planet.
DU, Kos, etc. may seem insignificant to some, but as we all know,
(1) Money strongly influences information
(2) Information becomes public opinion
(3) Public opinion elects power
(4) Power greatly influences profit margins and the distribution of power
(5) The outcome of any election can depend on a single vote
I'm just sayin'...that there are people out there with unlimited wealth, who have no qualms about sparing no expense in using their money to spread information that will form public opinion, in order to elect candidates favorable to their private profit and power interests.
There are no restrictions, or financial considerations, preventing them from doing so. If I were of their corrupt ilk, corrupt ilk meaning individuals such as the Koch Brothers, I would definitely spend a few pennies to sway public opinion in my favor, everywhere, in order to promote my self interests.
(Come to think of it, I would probably even help finance a think tank to promote my self-serving agenda. Makes good logical sense.)
I would certainly finance individuals and groups whose function it would be to swing public opinion, and the Democratic Party, to the right in any way that I possibly could. Being filthy rich beyond comprehension, I would most assuredly do this. Actually, I would probably not even have to think about it, as it would be the task of some of my highly talented, extremely well paid employees, to insure that this was done...
The Koches and other cranky conservative billionaires fit this picture very well. They have unlimited money and the USSC decision on Citizens United. They will buy public opinion between now and 2014.
Their intention is not hidden - they intend nothing less than to 'starve the government until it is small enough to drown in a bathtub' like a helpless baby. That is our government, the one people have fought to preserve because of unique ideals in the world, and democracy, which the Koch brothers think is weak and needs to be replaced with their strong man fascist model.
Along with over half of our population. Have we forgotten their words about us voters?
They call us parasites, godless, lazy, immoral, stupid breeders. They will do anything they can to root us out of their vision for a new world order.
Since they know it scares us, and it should, they taunt us by calling our leaders fascists, authoritarians, etc. But their replacement of what they call our morally weak, corrupt and unjust rule of the masses, will be the real deal.
They won't give up and we are the ones who will lose by not being united. They have found our achille's heel and are going to strike us there every day.
DU, Kos, etc. may seem insignificant to some, but as we all know,
(1) Money strongly influences information
(2) Information becomes public opinion
(3) Public opinion elects power
(4) Power greatly influences profit margins and the distribution of power
(5) The outcome of any election can depend on a single vote
I'm just sayin'...that there are people out there with unlimited wealth, who have no qualms about sparing no expense in using their money to spread information that will form public opinion, in order to elect candidates favorable to their private profit and power interests.
There are no restrictions, or financial considerations, preventing them from doing so. If I were of their corrupt ilk, corrupt ilk meaning individuals such as the Koch Brothers, I would definitely spend a few pennies to sway public opinion in my favor, everywhere, in order to promote my self interests.
(Come to think of it, I would probably even help finance a think tank to promote my self-serving agenda. Makes good logical sense.)
I would certainly finance individuals and groups whose function it would be to swing public opinion, and the Democratic Party, to the right in any way that I possibly could. Being filthy rich beyond comprehension, I would most assuredly do this. Actually, I would probably not even have to think about it, as it would be the task of some of my highly talented, extremely well paid employees, to insure that this was done...
The Koches and other cranky conservative billionaires fit this picture very well. They have unlimited money and the USSC decision on Citizens United. They will buy public opinion between now and 2014.
Their intention is not hidden - they intend nothing less than to 'starve the government until it is small enough to drown in a bathtub' like a helpless baby. That is our government, the one people have fought to preserve because of unique ideals in the world, and democracy, which the Koch brothers think is weak and needs to be replaced with their strong man fascist model.
Along with over half of our population. Have we forgotten their words about us voters?
They call us parasites, godless, lazy, immoral, stupid breeders. They will do anything they can to root us out of their vision for a new world order.
Since they know it scares us, and it should, they taunt us by calling our leaders fascists, authoritarians, etc. But their replacement of what they call our morally weak, corrupt and unjust rule of the masses, will be the real deal.
They won't give up and we are the ones who will lose by not being united. They have found our achille's heel and are going to strike us there every day.
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Glenn Greenwald Unethically Taped Witnesses While Working for Matt Hale, White Supremacist. [View all]
msanthrope
Jan 2012
OP
This is so complicated IDK what he did. But this and another thread makes him seem like O'Keefe.
freshwest
Jan 2012
#133
Yes, the big money is there. I'm not sure who, but a DUer posted this and I saved it to read :
freshwest
Jun 2013
#203
You are quite welcome. I hope to do a little more digging regarding the Hale case and Glenn's
msanthrope
Jan 2012
#9
Just stumbled on this again from another thread. You're right, extremely disturbing! n/t
freshwest
Feb 2014
#208
That doesnt fit the orchestrated campaign to slime a blogger that dares question Obama
DJ13
Jan 2012
#15
Yes. Being told you are not so much unethical as incompetent is something every lawyer clings to.
msanthrope
Jan 2012
#16
You mean "The magistrate judge granted both motions, finding defense counsel's conduct unethical"
msanthrope
Jan 2012
#37
Defense counsel could have reasonably believed that his conduct was permissible.
Luminous Animal
Jan 2012
#44
Since he neglected to read the local rules, that's true. So he can always claim ignorance
msanthrope
Jan 2012
#57
How dare I quote Glenn Greenwald!!!! In a thread about, well, Glenn Greenwald.
msanthrope
Jan 2012
#65
American Lawyer Media/April 6, 2000 By Molly McDonough is the source. How is she not
msanthrope
Jan 2012
#105
Are you still suggesting that an article from a decade ago was altered to defame Glenn Greenwald?
msanthrope
Jan 2012
#111
Defense counsel could have reasonably believed that his conduct was permissible
Luminous Animal
Jan 2012
#45
Yes--when he decided not the read the local rules, I am sure Mr. Greenwald thought
msanthrope
Jan 2012
#60
Lawyers are rebuked regularly. I really can't get too worked up about this.
Luminous Animal
Jan 2012
#91
You should read later in the thread--they're using Scientology propaganda to defend
msanthrope
Jan 2012
#109
"The magistrate judge granted both motions, finding defense counsel's conduct unethical"
msanthrope
Jan 2012
#32
It's not for the court to pass judgments of character, but of law. That's what they did. Glenn
msanthrope
Jan 2012
#40
It's becoming clear to me that Glen Greenwald actually likes the Libertarian concepts...
joshcryer
Jan 2012
#25
It was at it's worst right after Awlaki's kid was murdered, along with his cousin.
MNBrewer
Jan 2012
#88
And taking statements out of context & twisting their meaning is a very Rovian thing to do.
baldguy
Jan 2012
#102
Corporatists? You do know that Greenwald thinks Citizen's United was rightly decided, correct?
msanthrope
Jan 2012
#42
Thank you for posting the column that Greenwald wrote in support of the decision.
msanthrope
Jan 2012
#72
I'm not sure what "Constitutioon grounds" are. If you start a thread about it,
msanthrope
Jan 2012
#98
I cannot tell what being gay has to do with this thread, but I'm willing to hear your theory. nt
msanthrope
Jan 2012
#67
Please edit out your second word--it's against community standards, and your post
msanthrope
Jan 2012
#153
Wait, wait, wait--did you just post an article criticize Greenwald while arguing for the Iraq War on
Puregonzo1188
Jan 2012
#162
Let me get this straight--someone who supports the Iraq War and opposes the Islamic Community Center
Puregonzo1188
Jan 2012
#191
he must have struck a nerve if people are going to this much trouble to dig up dirt on him
yurbud
Jan 2012
#154
You insult the intelligence of DUers when you imply we will buy EVERYTHING someone says because we
yurbud
Jan 2012
#157
I think people coming here to decapitate our intellectual heroes are not to be trusted
librechik
Jan 2012
#180
I think he is a Libertarian who made his money being a pseudo-liberal/progressive.
msanthrope
Jan 2012
#187
"Libertarian who made his money being a pseudo-liberal/progressive". This is why I will always.....
Tarheel_Dem
Jan 2012
#188