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avaistheone1

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158. I agree with you.

Mon Jun 10, 2013, 05:36 PM

Jun 2013

They will every extract every bit of info in their massive data bases on Snowden no matter how insignificant and innocent, and massage him into the next Osama Bin Laden.

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This Snowden guy has a few cracks in his resume. [View all] MADem Jun 2013 OP

He was at CIA before that. Wonder if he's the CIA leaker, too. DevonRex Jun 2013 #1

Did he spend more than three months there, I wonder? nt MADem Jun 2013 #6

Is he a friend of Scooter Libby? Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2013 #26

Perhaps a bit young :-) DevonRex Jun 2013 #39

Maybe he likes aspens, too...? nt MADem Jun 2013 #42

Why didn't he go to Ecuador? randome Jun 2013 #2

Maybe another bed crammed into that back room in the Knightsbridge embassy flat? MADem Jun 2013 #7

Or Iceland? He says he'd like asylum there. So why didn't he go there directly? pnwmom Jun 2013 #14

Julian snores. n/t rucky Jun 2013 #115

Greenwald sure knows how to pick 'em BeyondGeography Jun 2013 #3

Just the fact that he's 'promoting' his source shows an agenda. randome Jun 2013 #21

New journalism--get on twitter and try to drive people to your articles. MADem Jun 2013 #90

DU rec...nt SidDithers Jun 2013 #4

Well, what we have here for ourselves is either spin or, or......... wandy Jun 2013 #5

That's what I've been saying all along. MADem Jun 2013 #8

They started a year ago. I think it may have something to do with it also. He was previously in Japa okaawhatever Jun 2013 #17

I thought I read he was "going to be" Special Forces but broke both legs. MADem Jun 2013 #41

Yep Blue_Roses Jun 2013 #49

If he was training for SF it would have been the Q course. Prior to the Iraq/Afghanistan one couldn' okaawhatever Jun 2013 #55

I read somewhere that he suffered SEIZURES. That he had EPILEPSY... MADem Jun 2013 #73

I've been saying since yesterday---adult onset epilepsy and some weird shit behavior. msanthrope Jun 2013 #135

Interesting. Is there emotional lability? How about depression or suicidal ideation? MADem Jun 2013 #137

Adult onset epilepsy is most often caused by substance abuse. This is not the only cause, msanthrope Jun 2013 #138

Really? I love DU...learn something new every day! MADem Jun 2013 #140

I think the plan is to release in dribs and drabs. Then you've got the book and the msanthrope Jun 2013 #143

Ha! I like to think I look downstream, but I didn't think of that angle at all... MADem Jun 2013 #145

Laura Poitras--a filmmaker is sharing a byline with Greenwald at the Guardian. Film msanthrope Jun 2013 #148

Ah---it all makes sense now. nt MADem Jun 2013 #149

Rik Mayhall who died this week had epilepsy. So you two are pure class. In politics, Democratic Bluenorthwest Jun 2014 #189

YOU are "pure class," making the leap that having epilepsy is somehow "bad." MADem Jun 2014 #190

Check out his physique. Eddie Haskell Jun 2013 #159

Initially, they said he was in for five months. They revised that down to four. MADem Jun 2013 #188

I do not want to play Alex Jones here, but this whole bloody thing has been too neet a package...... wandy Jun 2013 #19

Well, here's a bow for the top of the package--China gets the world headline they need.... MADem Jun 2013 #28

Note that Snowden had a deadline for publication in mind -- fits with the propaganda coup theory FarCenter Jun 2013 #38

I am not turning into Alex Jones. As I read the article I had this stray thought about.......... wandy Jun 2013 #45

It may be crazy, but the idea of frigging Rove w/a Fu Manchu is an hilarious image! MADem Jun 2013 #52

It is highly suspect he ran to a Chinese protectorate. roamer65 Jun 2013 #9

I think it's suspect, too. As one media interviewee said, "Why not Sweden?" nt MADem Jun 2013 #10

Cheering treason. ProSense Jun 2013 #13

First thing that popped to my mind when I read Hong Kong... roamer65 Jun 2013 #18

I am not cheering it but I, too, suspected it. It's only natural. MADem Jun 2013 #43

Bingo. roamer65 Jun 2013 #48

Defectors who "go over" quietly give secrets to the other side, don't draw attention to themselves leveymg Jun 2013 #29

Possible too that NSA was getting close to finding him... roamer65 Jun 2013 #32

If this is the weaker stuff, the sky is about to fall on Ft. Meade. leveymg Jun 2013 #40

If the Chinese wanted that BIG headline, though, they got what they wanted. MADem Jun 2013 #44

They probably envy our surveillance system, as they denounce it, they copy it. leveymg Jun 2013 #110

They might already have it! They have much of our drone design. nt MADem Jun 2013 #113

Did you see the headlines in the Chinese papers? MADem Jun 2013 #63

If leveymg Jun 2013 #112

That doesn't make sense. woolldog Jun 2013 #123

Maybe he didn't have much access to information. MADem Jun 2013 #132

Something is not right....there's no doubt on the face of it there's somethin sKrange uponit7771 Jun 2013 #11

It gets stranger. He made the decision to "go public" BEFORE he joined Booz. MADem Jun 2013 #187

So freedom is alive and well in China. freshwest Jun 2013 #12

Maybe he quit a good paying job for a better payout. Life Long Dem Jun 2013 #15

He had been in the swell job less than three months. MADem Jun 2013 #54

Yeah, something is not right. Life Long Dem Jun 2013 #57

That's a very mundane, but astute observation. Eddie Haskell Jun 2013 #166

Does Baer think we're stupid? He answers his own question! LittleBlue Jun 2013 #16

Pretty ridiculous, isn't it. Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #25

That's what Baer really thinks, the rest is the party line. leveymg Jun 2013 #30

This is the classic Red smear pscot Jun 2013 #20

Well, if he ran to anywhere other than frigging CHINA, while the Chinese Premier was meeting with MADem Jun 2013 #72

Nixon invented the red smear pscot Jun 2013 #122

No he didn't. That tactic came to the fore right after the Bolshevik Revolution, when Nixon was MADem Jun 2013 #152

Accusing workers of Bolshevism pscot Jun 2013 #176

I don't disagree re: Nixon's use of the tactic, however, I don't regard it as his "signature," MADem Jun 2013 #177

Ah yes. Anyone that dares expose our government for violations of our Constitutional rights must rhett o rick Jun 2013 #22

It's funny how much the authoritarian mind sets here and in China reflect each other. leveymg Jun 2013 #33

When did you put on your robes, Supreme Court Justice? MADem Jun 2013 #47

I believe that many here believe the SCOTUS should rule that our Unitarian Executive rhett o rick Jun 2013 #59

Why are you getting snarky? Don't you think this entire matter should be thoroughly vetted? MADem Jun 2013 #62

I was answering your snark about me being a Justice. But I agree that rhett o rick Jun 2013 #147

Ah, you wanted him to dance with the ones what brung him. MADem Jun 2013 #156

I agree with many of your points. Eddie Haskell Jun 2013 #168

I wouldn't be surprised if you murder innocent kittens and eat their hearts emulatorloo Jun 2013 #127

5-1 to keep your post. nt msanthrope Jun 2013 #134

Not just because the unkind comments were directed at me, but I agree with your post MADem Jun 2013 #146

I should not have directed that comment at her. But some here appear happy to give up rhett o rick Jun 2013 #151

"Unitarian Executive"? WTF is that? Tarheel_Dem Jun 2013 #157

I don't buy it. OilemFirchen Jun 2013 #23

How did he ratfuck Greenwald? leveymg Jun 2013 #35

I jumped the gun. OilemFirchen Jun 2013 #46

You might enjoy this---when Mr. Greenwald was suckered by Matt Hale-- msanthrope Jun 2013 #133

I did indeed. OilemFirchen Jun 2013 #172

He can get some protection by the further release of information or threatening to do so FarCenter Jun 2013 #24

He said in an interview that he knew exactly who and where all the intelligence agents are. That's okaawhatever Jun 2013 #60

And he's been working there for under three months? Does he have a photographic memory? MADem Jun 2013 #65

No he downloaded alot of documents. Not that we know for sure, but that is his claim. That would be okaawhatever Jun 2013 #67

This is sad. Marr Jun 2013 #27

Thank you! Abq_Sarah Jun 2013 #31

Second that. leveymg Jun 2013 #37

Who's "attacking the messenger?" This guy has a resume--what, we shouldn't examine it? MADem Jun 2013 #50

You are, of course. Marr Jun 2013 #58

What suggestive smears? And frankly--LOOK who's talking! MADem Jun 2013 #69

Good night. Marr Jun 2013 #74

Good move. nt MADem Jun 2013 #81

Relevance? Ed Suspicious Jun 2013 #82

Yeah, everyone with that resume makes $200,000 a year. MADem Jun 2013 #84

They do if they've taken a series of computer courses. Fawke Em Jun 2013 #126

Well, he took computer classes in community college. MADem Jun 2013 #131

Do we know if he still got his certs, though? Fawke Em Jun 2013 #180

Apparently, he didn't take any "cyber" classes at the junior college, per a recent thread. MADem Jun 2013 #181

Interesting. Fawke Em Jun 2013 #182

I learned from another thread here that his mother works in IT. MADem Jun 2013 #185

Thanks for explaining that for general consumption... marions ghost Jun 2013 #144

Because it's a weird resume: struggle4progress Jun 2013 #114

Well said, MADem Number23 Jun 2013 #92

I don't think the acolytes are reading the updates. MADem Jun 2013 #98

You didn't mention that a handful of his neighbors said he wasn't a "very nice guy...". LanternWaste Jun 2013 #150

Why do I need to, since you've just done it? This is a conversation--you can contribute, or you MADem Jun 2013 #154

Actually, NPR played soundbites of his childhood neighbors, and they report pretty much the same. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2013 #160

He worked directly for NSA, then CIA, then NSA (in Japan) before getting to Booz. MADem Jun 2013 #162

Booz hired him. GeorgeGist Jun 2013 #75

I agree with you that they have more than a little 'splainin' to do. MADem Jun 2013 #79

The real crime of this story is the clear inepitude of companies contracted to do the dirty work. snagglepuss Jun 2013 #153

Well, his job could be a patronage one, or he could be an unschooled genius. MADem Jun 2013 #155

This speculation has got to stop. Eddie Haskell Jun 2013 #169

It's getting more interesting..... MADem Jun 2013 #178

It doesn't get lower. delrem Jun 2013 #78

Oh, sure it does! People who tout the overarching, absolute importance of free speech MADem Jun 2013 #87

Hey, nobody is trying to silence you. delrem Jun 2013 #93

There you go again! MADem Jun 2013 #97

The people who are going to be ashamed treestar Jun 2013 #120

"Are the ones who jumped on the hero worshipping bandwagon too early." Capt. Obvious Jun 2013 #136

Sounds like a stretch to me. elleng Jun 2013 #34

What’s the Deal with Hong Kong? ProSense Jun 2013 #36

I wondered the VERY same thing--particularly since we have no extradition w/China, but we do with MADem Jun 2013 #95

Post removed Post removed Jun 2013 #108

I don't have answers. I have plenty of questions, and so what if my speculations are wrong? MADem Jun 2013 #111

Snowden is a high school dropout. moondust Jun 2013 #51

Dubya had a degree from Yale and a Harvard MBA, lol reformist2 Jun 2013 #53

Yes, but he bought them. Eddie Haskell Jun 2013 #170

And he didn't finish the few community college courses he took.... MADem Jun 2013 #61

Curious indeed Eddie Haskell Jun 2013 #171

Why would booz allen hire someone like him? did he lie on his resume, and if he did, wasn't there still_one Jun 2013 #89

Who you know; if his resume wouldn't pass muster for regular work, Booz might hire him as a favor haele Jun 2013 #124

I agree the game is afoot still_one Jun 2013 #125

China is not our friend, and Snowden is obviously controlled by them. JDPriestly Jun 2013 #56

"Turned by China?"-- Nice fearmongering, Senator McCarthy.... xocet Jun 2013 #64

Hey--if you disagree with the premise found in the first link, say so. But don't go name calling. MADem Jun 2013 #76

There is no need for you to play the victim. You are not a victim. xocet Jun 2013 #141

Not to mention the crack in his ass! Major Hogwash Jun 2013 #66

This OP and the responses in this thread win the prize BrotherIvan Jun 2013 #68

And you win the prize too. MADem Jun 2013 #88

ok this is getting hard to keep track of Enrique Jun 2013 #70

Well, the first four are topics discussed in other threads, not this one. MADem Jun 2013 #86

The OP and most of this thread is a shameless, vicious hatchet job. Comrade Grumpy Jun 2013 #71

indeed. Shameful. Ed Suspicious Jun 2013 #80

No it isn't. There are plenty of threads full of fulsome, unquestioning praise for this fearless MADem Jun 2013 #85

unquestioning praise? burnodo Jun 2013 #101

See the search box in the upper right-hand corner? MADem Jun 2013 #103

sorry, I didn't find what you claimed I would burnodo Jun 2013 #104

I can't help you if you don't have the patience to look. nt MADem Jun 2013 #105

I did look burnodo Jun 2013 #106

You didn't look very hard. MADem Jun 2013 #107

So are you saying the NY Times is incorrect when they say he was a high school dropout, and all the still_one Jun 2013 #91

You do know the media is finally asking some of the same questions, right? By all means, Tarheel_Dem Jun 2013 #165

Snowden is dead meat, and the vultures are preparing the carcass. delrem Jun 2013 #77

Well....that was helpful. Not. MADem Jun 2013 #83

Just an observation. My intent wasn't to help you out. Not to my taste, you see. delrem Jun 2013 #94

Your intent was to drag a carcass into the conversation, certainly. MADem Jun 2013 #96

Snowden could be the devil incarnate... BlueCheese Jun 2013 #99

I don't think he's the devil incarnate. I just am entirely unclear on his motivations, and I think MADem Jun 2013 #100

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2013 #102

Classic bush tactic, attack the reporter of the crime rather then the criminal..... bowens43 Jun 2013 #109

Who's "attacking" anyone? Why are you taking this so personally? MADem Jun 2013 #116

You're too close, MADem. Too close for comfort. randome Jun 2013 #174

Let the smears begin! Laelth Jun 2013 #117

I think he's full of crap Aerows Jun 2013 #118

How delusional treestar Jun 2013 #119

Who Cares? RobinA Jun 2013 #121

The point is, he has no "documentation." His resume is relevant because he had a MADem Jun 2013 #130

Or, as has been suggested, we're currently seeing what he was hired (by whomever) for (nt) Recursion Jun 2013 #173

I don't think questioning a person's background, motives and veracity has anything WilmywoodNCparalegal Jun 2013 #128

He didn't have any military record, either--he washed out of training due to breaking MADem Jun 2013 #129

This is disgusting Puzzledtraveller Jun 2013 #139

Hey, I provided a couple of links to start a conversation about them. No one is forcing MADem Jun 2013 #142

I agree with you. avaistheone1 Jun 2013 #158

Who is "they?" nt MADem Jun 2013 #163

It's the only place that could protect him. originalpckelly Jun 2013 #161

Per the TV, he's on the move. MADem Jun 2013 #164

Community College Says NSA Whistleblower Edward Snowden Took No "Cyber-Related Classes" Tx4obama Jun 2013 #167

Snowden's a ghost, but he does bring up a good point. Eddie Haskell Jun 2013 #175

Oh sure--there WILL be hearings. I do think he could have gone about it a different way, but MADem Jun 2013 #179

Snowden thought Iraq was a 'noble' war... Whisp Jun 2013 #183

Ain't that peculiar! MADem Jun 2013 #184

This guy, it turns out, decided to go public BEFORE he joined Booz. MADem Jun 2013 #186