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MADem

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73. I read somewhere that he suffered SEIZURES. That he had EPILEPSY...
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 02:09 AM
Jun 2013

Yes, here it is: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/06/09/edward-snowden-guardian-interview/2405873/

Snowden, who learned after seizures last year that he suffers from epilepsy, is a former technical assistant for the CIA who spent the past four years at the NSA as a contract employee of several companies, including Dell and Booz Allen, the newspaper reported. He copied the documents last week at NSA's Hawaii office and then told a supervisor he needed time off for medical treatment, the newspaper said.



I don't know if he's on depakote (common anti-seizure drug) but it also has an off-label use as a treatment for bipolar/schizophrenic affect. Works well with some patients, too. All that was pure speculation, and it was the "seizures" thing that triggered my memory of the off-label use of the drug (I know someone who is using the drug in this fashion, to good effect, too, when she stays on the drug--when she goes off, she gets grandiose--her family is now attuned to notice the signs and make sure she stays "medically compliant&quot .

So...yeah. It crossed my mind that he may have been using a fake diagnosis of epilepsy to get that drug, and actually be on the med for another reason. With a clearance that high, surely he'd have to do the old lie detector every now and again...? How the hell would he pass that? Nerves of steel? Sociopathic personality? Valium?

I found your comments very interesting and elucidative. I have to say, I feel the same way you do--that this smells like someone is targeting OBAMA, and if this guy knows what he grandiosely claims to know, he could be a real problem and jeopardize the lives of contacts and operatives in the field.

I'd love it if he had next to nothing and he was a grade A bullshitter. I don't think that's the case, though...
He was at CIA before that. Wonder if he's the CIA leaker, too. DevonRex Jun 2013 #1
Did he spend more than three months there, I wonder? nt MADem Jun 2013 #6
Is he a friend of Scooter Libby? Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2013 #26
Perhaps a bit young :-) DevonRex Jun 2013 #39
Maybe he likes aspens, too...? nt MADem Jun 2013 #42
Why didn't he go to Ecuador? randome Jun 2013 #2
Maybe another bed crammed into that back room in the Knightsbridge embassy flat? MADem Jun 2013 #7
Or Iceland? He says he'd like asylum there. So why didn't he go there directly? pnwmom Jun 2013 #14
Julian snores. n/t rucky Jun 2013 #115
Greenwald sure knows how to pick 'em BeyondGeography Jun 2013 #3
Just the fact that he's 'promoting' his source shows an agenda. randome Jun 2013 #21
New journalism--get on twitter and try to drive people to your articles. MADem Jun 2013 #90
DU rec...nt SidDithers Jun 2013 #4
Well, what we have here for ourselves is either spin or, or......... wandy Jun 2013 #5
That's what I've been saying all along. MADem Jun 2013 #8
They started a year ago. I think it may have something to do with it also. He was previously in Japa okaawhatever Jun 2013 #17
I thought I read he was "going to be" Special Forces but broke both legs. MADem Jun 2013 #41
Yep Blue_Roses Jun 2013 #49
If he was training for SF it would have been the Q course. Prior to the Iraq/Afghanistan one couldn' okaawhatever Jun 2013 #55
I read somewhere that he suffered SEIZURES. That he had EPILEPSY... MADem Jun 2013 #73
I've been saying since yesterday---adult onset epilepsy and some weird shit behavior. msanthrope Jun 2013 #135
Interesting. Is there emotional lability? How about depression or suicidal ideation? MADem Jun 2013 #137
Adult onset epilepsy is most often caused by substance abuse. This is not the only cause, msanthrope Jun 2013 #138
Really? I love DU...learn something new every day! MADem Jun 2013 #140
I think the plan is to release in dribs and drabs. Then you've got the book and the msanthrope Jun 2013 #143
Ha! I like to think I look downstream, but I didn't think of that angle at all... MADem Jun 2013 #145
Laura Poitras--a filmmaker is sharing a byline with Greenwald at the Guardian. Film msanthrope Jun 2013 #148
Ah---it all makes sense now. nt MADem Jun 2013 #149
Rik Mayhall who died this week had epilepsy. So you two are pure class. In politics, Democratic Bluenorthwest Jun 2014 #189
YOU are "pure class," making the leap that having epilepsy is somehow "bad." MADem Jun 2014 #190
Check out his physique. Eddie Haskell Jun 2013 #159
Initially, they said he was in for five months. They revised that down to four. MADem Jun 2013 #188
I do not want to play Alex Jones here, but this whole bloody thing has been too neet a package...... wandy Jun 2013 #19
Well, here's a bow for the top of the package--China gets the world headline they need.... MADem Jun 2013 #28
Note that Snowden had a deadline for publication in mind -- fits with the propaganda coup theory FarCenter Jun 2013 #38
I am not turning into Alex Jones. As I read the article I had this stray thought about.......... wandy Jun 2013 #45
It may be crazy, but the idea of frigging Rove w/a Fu Manchu is an hilarious image! MADem Jun 2013 #52
It is highly suspect he ran to a Chinese protectorate. roamer65 Jun 2013 #9
I think it's suspect, too. As one media interviewee said, "Why not Sweden?" nt MADem Jun 2013 #10
Cheering treason. ProSense Jun 2013 #13
First thing that popped to my mind when I read Hong Kong... roamer65 Jun 2013 #18
I am not cheering it but I, too, suspected it. It's only natural. MADem Jun 2013 #43
Bingo. roamer65 Jun 2013 #48
Defectors who "go over" quietly give secrets to the other side, don't draw attention to themselves leveymg Jun 2013 #29
Possible too that NSA was getting close to finding him... roamer65 Jun 2013 #32
If this is the weaker stuff, the sky is about to fall on Ft. Meade. leveymg Jun 2013 #40
If the Chinese wanted that BIG headline, though, they got what they wanted. MADem Jun 2013 #44
They probably envy our surveillance system, as they denounce it, they copy it. leveymg Jun 2013 #110
They might already have it! They have much of our drone design. nt MADem Jun 2013 #113
Did you see the headlines in the Chinese papers? MADem Jun 2013 #63
If leveymg Jun 2013 #112
That doesn't make sense. woolldog Jun 2013 #123
Maybe he didn't have much access to information. MADem Jun 2013 #132
Something is not right....there's no doubt on the face of it there's somethin sKrange uponit7771 Jun 2013 #11
It gets stranger. He made the decision to "go public" BEFORE he joined Booz. MADem Jun 2013 #187
So freedom is alive and well in China. freshwest Jun 2013 #12
Maybe he quit a good paying job for a better payout. Life Long Dem Jun 2013 #15
He had been in the swell job less than three months. MADem Jun 2013 #54
Yeah, something is not right. Life Long Dem Jun 2013 #57
That's a very mundane, but astute observation. Eddie Haskell Jun 2013 #166
Does Baer think we're stupid? He answers his own question! LittleBlue Jun 2013 #16
Pretty ridiculous, isn't it. Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #25
That's what Baer really thinks, the rest is the party line. leveymg Jun 2013 #30
This is the classic Red smear pscot Jun 2013 #20
Well, if he ran to anywhere other than frigging CHINA, while the Chinese Premier was meeting with MADem Jun 2013 #72
Nixon invented the red smear pscot Jun 2013 #122
No he didn't. That tactic came to the fore right after the Bolshevik Revolution, when Nixon was MADem Jun 2013 #152
Accusing workers of Bolshevism pscot Jun 2013 #176
I don't disagree re: Nixon's use of the tactic, however, I don't regard it as his "signature," MADem Jun 2013 #177
Ah yes. Anyone that dares expose our government for violations of our Constitutional rights must rhett o rick Jun 2013 #22
It's funny how much the authoritarian mind sets here and in China reflect each other. leveymg Jun 2013 #33
When did you put on your robes, Supreme Court Justice? MADem Jun 2013 #47
I believe that many here believe the SCOTUS should rule that our Unitarian Executive rhett o rick Jun 2013 #59
Why are you getting snarky? Don't you think this entire matter should be thoroughly vetted? MADem Jun 2013 #62
I was answering your snark about me being a Justice. But I agree that rhett o rick Jun 2013 #147
Ah, you wanted him to dance with the ones what brung him. MADem Jun 2013 #156
I agree with many of your points. Eddie Haskell Jun 2013 #168
I wouldn't be surprised if you murder innocent kittens and eat their hearts emulatorloo Jun 2013 #127
5-1 to keep your post. nt msanthrope Jun 2013 #134
Not just because the unkind comments were directed at me, but I agree with your post MADem Jun 2013 #146
I should not have directed that comment at her. But some here appear happy to give up rhett o rick Jun 2013 #151
"Unitarian Executive"? WTF is that? Tarheel_Dem Jun 2013 #157
I don't buy it. OilemFirchen Jun 2013 #23
How did he ratfuck Greenwald? leveymg Jun 2013 #35
I jumped the gun. OilemFirchen Jun 2013 #46
You might enjoy this---when Mr. Greenwald was suckered by Matt Hale-- msanthrope Jun 2013 #133
I did indeed. OilemFirchen Jun 2013 #172
He can get some protection by the further release of information or threatening to do so FarCenter Jun 2013 #24
He said in an interview that he knew exactly who and where all the intelligence agents are. That's okaawhatever Jun 2013 #60
And he's been working there for under three months? Does he have a photographic memory? MADem Jun 2013 #65
No he downloaded alot of documents. Not that we know for sure, but that is his claim. That would be okaawhatever Jun 2013 #67
This is sad. Marr Jun 2013 #27
Thank you! Abq_Sarah Jun 2013 #31
Second that. leveymg Jun 2013 #37
Who's "attacking the messenger?" This guy has a resume--what, we shouldn't examine it? MADem Jun 2013 #50
You are, of course. Marr Jun 2013 #58
What suggestive smears? And frankly--LOOK who's talking! MADem Jun 2013 #69
Good night. Marr Jun 2013 #74
Good move. nt MADem Jun 2013 #81
Relevance? Ed Suspicious Jun 2013 #82
Yeah, everyone with that resume makes $200,000 a year. MADem Jun 2013 #84
They do if they've taken a series of computer courses. Fawke Em Jun 2013 #126
Well, he took computer classes in community college. MADem Jun 2013 #131
Do we know if he still got his certs, though? Fawke Em Jun 2013 #180
Apparently, he didn't take any "cyber" classes at the junior college, per a recent thread. MADem Jun 2013 #181
Interesting. Fawke Em Jun 2013 #182
I learned from another thread here that his mother works in IT. MADem Jun 2013 #185
Thanks for explaining that for general consumption... marions ghost Jun 2013 #144
Because it's a weird resume: struggle4progress Jun 2013 #114
Well said, MADem Number23 Jun 2013 #92
I don't think the acolytes are reading the updates. MADem Jun 2013 #98
You didn't mention that a handful of his neighbors said he wasn't a "very nice guy...". LanternWaste Jun 2013 #150
Why do I need to, since you've just done it? This is a conversation--you can contribute, or you MADem Jun 2013 #154
Actually, NPR played soundbites of his childhood neighbors, and they report pretty much the same. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2013 #160
He worked directly for NSA, then CIA, then NSA (in Japan) before getting to Booz. MADem Jun 2013 #162
Booz hired him. GeorgeGist Jun 2013 #75
I agree with you that they have more than a little 'splainin' to do. MADem Jun 2013 #79
The real crime of this story is the clear inepitude of companies contracted to do the dirty work. snagglepuss Jun 2013 #153
Well, his job could be a patronage one, or he could be an unschooled genius. MADem Jun 2013 #155
This speculation has got to stop. Eddie Haskell Jun 2013 #169
It's getting more interesting..... MADem Jun 2013 #178
It doesn't get lower. delrem Jun 2013 #78
Oh, sure it does! People who tout the overarching, absolute importance of free speech MADem Jun 2013 #87
Hey, nobody is trying to silence you. delrem Jun 2013 #93
There you go again! MADem Jun 2013 #97
The people who are going to be ashamed treestar Jun 2013 #120
"Are the ones who jumped on the hero worshipping bandwagon too early." Capt. Obvious Jun 2013 #136
Sounds like a stretch to me. elleng Jun 2013 #34
What’s the Deal with Hong Kong? ProSense Jun 2013 #36
I wondered the VERY same thing--particularly since we have no extradition w/China, but we do with MADem Jun 2013 #95
Post removed Post removed Jun 2013 #108
I don't have answers. I have plenty of questions, and so what if my speculations are wrong? MADem Jun 2013 #111
Snowden is a high school dropout. moondust Jun 2013 #51
Dubya had a degree from Yale and a Harvard MBA, lol reformist2 Jun 2013 #53
Yes, but he bought them. Eddie Haskell Jun 2013 #170
And he didn't finish the few community college courses he took.... MADem Jun 2013 #61
Curious indeed Eddie Haskell Jun 2013 #171
Why would booz allen hire someone like him? did he lie on his resume, and if he did, wasn't there still_one Jun 2013 #89
Who you know; if his resume wouldn't pass muster for regular work, Booz might hire him as a favor haele Jun 2013 #124
I agree the game is afoot still_one Jun 2013 #125
China is not our friend, and Snowden is obviously controlled by them. JDPriestly Jun 2013 #56
"Turned by China?"-- Nice fearmongering, Senator McCarthy.... xocet Jun 2013 #64
Hey--if you disagree with the premise found in the first link, say so. But don't go name calling. MADem Jun 2013 #76
There is no need for you to play the victim. You are not a victim. xocet Jun 2013 #141
Not to mention the crack in his ass! Major Hogwash Jun 2013 #66
This OP and the responses in this thread win the prize BrotherIvan Jun 2013 #68
And you win the prize too. MADem Jun 2013 #88
ok this is getting hard to keep track of Enrique Jun 2013 #70
Well, the first four are topics discussed in other threads, not this one. MADem Jun 2013 #86
The OP and most of this thread is a shameless, vicious hatchet job. Comrade Grumpy Jun 2013 #71
indeed. Shameful. Ed Suspicious Jun 2013 #80
No it isn't. There are plenty of threads full of fulsome, unquestioning praise for this fearless MADem Jun 2013 #85
unquestioning praise? burnodo Jun 2013 #101
See the search box in the upper right-hand corner? MADem Jun 2013 #103
sorry, I didn't find what you claimed I would burnodo Jun 2013 #104
I can't help you if you don't have the patience to look. nt MADem Jun 2013 #105
I did look burnodo Jun 2013 #106
You didn't look very hard. MADem Jun 2013 #107
So are you saying the NY Times is incorrect when they say he was a high school dropout, and all the still_one Jun 2013 #91
You do know the media is finally asking some of the same questions, right? By all means, Tarheel_Dem Jun 2013 #165
Snowden is dead meat, and the vultures are preparing the carcass. delrem Jun 2013 #77
Well....that was helpful. Not. MADem Jun 2013 #83
Just an observation. My intent wasn't to help you out. Not to my taste, you see. delrem Jun 2013 #94
Your intent was to drag a carcass into the conversation, certainly. MADem Jun 2013 #96
Snowden could be the devil incarnate... BlueCheese Jun 2013 #99
I don't think he's the devil incarnate. I just am entirely unclear on his motivations, and I think MADem Jun 2013 #100
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2013 #102
Classic bush tactic, attack the reporter of the crime rather then the criminal..... bowens43 Jun 2013 #109
Who's "attacking" anyone? Why are you taking this so personally? MADem Jun 2013 #116
You're too close, MADem. Too close for comfort. randome Jun 2013 #174
Let the smears begin! Laelth Jun 2013 #117
I think he's full of crap Aerows Jun 2013 #118
How delusional treestar Jun 2013 #119
Who Cares? RobinA Jun 2013 #121
The point is, he has no "documentation." His resume is relevant because he had a MADem Jun 2013 #130
Or, as has been suggested, we're currently seeing what he was hired (by whomever) for (nt) Recursion Jun 2013 #173
I don't think questioning a person's background, motives and veracity has anything WilmywoodNCparalegal Jun 2013 #128
He didn't have any military record, either--he washed out of training due to breaking MADem Jun 2013 #129
This is disgusting Puzzledtraveller Jun 2013 #139
Hey, I provided a couple of links to start a conversation about them. No one is forcing MADem Jun 2013 #142
I agree with you. avaistheone1 Jun 2013 #158
Who is "they?" nt MADem Jun 2013 #163
It's the only place that could protect him. originalpckelly Jun 2013 #161
Per the TV, he's on the move. MADem Jun 2013 #164
Community College Says NSA Whistleblower Edward Snowden Took No "Cyber-Related Classes" Tx4obama Jun 2013 #167
Snowden's a ghost, but he does bring up a good point. Eddie Haskell Jun 2013 #175
Oh sure--there WILL be hearings. I do think he could have gone about it a different way, but MADem Jun 2013 #179
Snowden thought Iraq was a 'noble' war... Whisp Jun 2013 #183
Ain't that peculiar! MADem Jun 2013 #184
This guy, it turns out, decided to go public BEFORE he joined Booz. MADem Jun 2013 #186
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