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madfloridian

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Sat Mar 2, 2013, 08:16 PM Mar 2013

What they don't tell you about FL sinkholes. In 2010 growers pumped a billion gallons a day [View all]

during the extended freezes here. They don't seem to be mentioning that at all. The Seffner sinkhole making the news is in the strawberry-growing area, only 10 miles from Plant City.

They don't mention that homeowners in 2010 were told to leave their homes because the strawberry growers were going to be pumping to spray their crops in the next few days. They were waiting on evaluations from their insurance. No changes have been made since 2010 that I can find.

Here are a bunch of links I accumulated in 2010, plus the personal story of a man who lost his home.

Homeowner loses home to sinkhole. Told to move out as strawberry fields start pumping again.

One homeowner has been waiting on their insurance to determine the status of their home. Last week the company that was supposed to analyze the depth of the sinkhole refused to go there because they feared their equipment would sink into the ground.

This week they heard from the Southwest Water Management District (SWIFTMUD) that they needed to vacate their house at once.

Why? The strawberry growers might start pumping the aquifer again.


More about that long freeze.

Plant City area strawberry growers pumped billions of gallons of water daily for 11 days.

BROOKSVILLE — Farmers in Hillsborough and Polk counties pumped nearly 1 billion gallons of water a day out of the aquifer during the 11-day cold snap this month, causing 85 reported sinkholes in the region and about 700 complaints of dried-up or damaged residential wells, according to figures released Tuesday by the Southwest Florida Water Management District.

That 1 billion gallon figure is 16 times the normal average permitted quantity of 60 million gallons a day that the farmers can use. It's 10 times the combined 103 million gallons a day that St. Petersburg and Tampa residents use. It's enough water to fill up more than 15,000 Olympic swimming pools.


At that time in 2010 they knew more sinkholes were coming.

During that time Plant City alone declared 11 homes uninhabitable, and they were watching 35 others.

The Seffner sinkhole inside that home is tragic. But Florida officials know that sinkholes will keep happening. There is no indication they intend to stop one of the major causes.




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Of course DonCoquixote Mar 2013 #1
85 sinkholes in just a short time is a very high price to pay for strawberries. madfloridian Mar 2013 #2
With all due respect to the local economy, people in Upstate New York hedgehog Mar 2013 #6
Loss of homes, high property insurance, high water bills are subsidizing the Fl strawberry economy. L0oniX Mar 2013 #63
Amen to that. madfloridian Mar 2013 #87
K&R for scientific context n/t alp227 Mar 2013 #3
Brownwood Subdivision in Baytown, TX was abandoned due to groundwater pumping Manifestor_of_Light Mar 2013 #4
I remember going through that area back in the mid 70's. TexasTowelie Mar 2013 #47
Wow Heather MC Mar 2013 #53
FEMA bought out KatyMan Mar 2013 #59
swampland, essentially elehhhhna Mar 2013 #78
unreal Demo_Chris Mar 2013 #5
Wow. This is eye opening. Raine1967 Mar 2013 #7
Fascinating Info from you there! Thanks..it raises many questions KoKo Mar 2013 #8
I agree KoKo. Much more then meets the eye here. madfloridian Mar 2013 #46
I smell corporate political money ...and Adam Putnam. n/t L0oniX Mar 2013 #65
not to mention the golf courses... Sancho Mar 2013 #9
OMG ...all the waste and polution ...for the rich assholes. n/t L0oniX Mar 2013 #64
There are about a dozen golf courses in Pinellas County (Clearwater, St. Pete)... Sancho Mar 2013 #72
I live there ...and know that ...seen the effects of the polution ...and high water bills. n/t L0oniX Mar 2013 #75
Yea, one of, if not the.... paleotn Mar 2013 #70
Gone baby gone Augiedog Mar 2013 #10
Or until it damages Mr.Bill Mar 2013 #13
You are right. They didn't tell us. Curmudgeoness Mar 2013 #11
Reminds me of the Oglalla Aquifer being drained... Little Star Mar 2013 #18
I do remember the Oglalla Aquifer, Curmudgeoness Mar 2013 #24
"I’d like to share a revelation that I’ve had, during my time here." CrispyQ Mar 2013 #58
I agree and get the same breathlessly hysterical responses... paleotn Mar 2013 #74
With all due respect to Hugo Weaving quakerboy Mar 2013 #86
Same with the Salton Sea here in California Tempest Mar 2013 #38
What are people going to drink? erronis Mar 2013 #88
k and r--thank you for this information. niyad Mar 2013 #12
i wondered about that. i read something not so long ago about another giant (much bigger HiPointDem Mar 2013 #14
Citrus or strawberry or other? madfloridian Mar 2013 #20
it doesn't seem like it was either of those, something more industrial. it was huge, i'll try to HiPointDem Mar 2013 #21
here it is. not florida, louisiana. corporation = texas brine company HiPointDem Mar 2013 #29
KNR. How is this getting reported without reference to this issue? DirkGently Mar 2013 #15
John Zarrella who is CNN’s Miami correspondent reported this last night on Little Star Mar 2013 #17
Good for him. In 2010 the local stations reported a little, then they backed away. madfloridian Mar 2013 #26
His pain was so raw and visible on tv last night I couldn't get it out of my mind all day today.... Little Star Mar 2013 #32
Fracking in Texas will do the same. Simple oil removal has already resulted in mbperrin Mar 2013 #16
Wow. That looks scarey. Catherine Vincent Mar 2013 #23
Wow, I just showed that to my son home from TX for visit. madfloridian Mar 2013 #39
It's pretty interesting. Robb Mar 2013 #41
oil & salt often found together. HiPointDem Mar 2013 #43
Somehow abelenkpe Mar 2013 #56
Well, abelenkpe, I agree with you. mbperrin Mar 2013 #61
I AM a Socialist... RoccoR5955 Mar 2013 #81
My bet is that the fracking/gas corporations are invested in clean water resources as well. L0oniX Mar 2013 #66
k&r rhett o rick Mar 2013 #19
k&r... spanone Mar 2013 #22
Thanks, madfloridian! I just heard another blip about it on the car radio while gateley Mar 2013 #25
More details. Caused 60 ft drop in aquifer which went up 50 ft in a few days. madfloridian Mar 2013 #27
They followed up allowing the pumping with a change to insurance rules okwmember Mar 2013 #28
State Farm dropped sinkhole coverage, but said we could pay for a survey and then get it. madfloridian Mar 2013 #34
Lucky you. okwmember Mar 2013 #92
Because of your zip code? madfloridian Mar 2013 #93
I had NO idea! Our media exists to keep us annabanana Mar 2013 #30
Blaming Man For These Sinkholes Is Like Blaming DallasNE Mar 2013 #31
I blame man for using resources irresponsibly. I think homeowners have a right to know... madfloridian Mar 2013 #33
. blkmusclmachine Mar 2013 #35
I learned about this from the msm. hay rick Mar 2013 #36
Ha.. madfloridian Mar 2013 #37
Given full knowledge of ProSense Mar 2013 #40
Florida is known for such madness in some areas. madfloridian Mar 2013 #42
The USA Corporation is known for its madness all over the world. n/t L0oniX Mar 2013 #67
The madness seems to be everywhere in all areas Ligyron Mar 2013 #68
Sinkhole politics: Who Gets Heard. Excellent article from Brandon Courier madfloridian Mar 2013 #44
I wish I had paid more attention. dothemath Mar 2013 #45
sinkhole "expert" on baynews 9 says onethatcares Mar 2013 #48
Clay? Really? I know some N.Florida areas have red clay like GA.... madfloridian Mar 2013 #54
no, it's another faux lite onethatcares Mar 2013 #71
I have wondered about Al for a while. madfloridian Mar 2013 #83
Freaking wow!! malaise Mar 2013 #49
"They" do tell us about this. There are numerous discussions about water use vs sinkholes bike man Mar 2013 #50
Yes, home users are limited always. Mandatory restrictions. madfloridian Mar 2013 #55
No stopping them ... chervilant Mar 2013 #51
"Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" have become anti-abortion, anti-government, and the Maineman Mar 2013 #52
This is a must read jsr Mar 2013 #57
Great OP, great thread! JNelson6563 Mar 2013 #60
Hi Julie. Yeh things are bad here in many ways. madfloridian Mar 2013 #69
...and we all here will be paying higher water bills so they can make money from strawberries. L0oniX Mar 2013 #62
If it weren't for DU, and especially MF, I wouldn't know about this at all. eppur_se_muova Mar 2013 #73
I just did another search....nothing. madfloridian Mar 2013 #77
Disaster in the making! cynzke Mar 2013 #76
Wow. Starry Messenger Mar 2013 #79
Thanks. madfloridian Mar 2013 #80
Sinkholes are a natural part of the geology of Florida. WcoastO Mar 2013 #82
Let's stop pretending. The aquifer is essential, and depleting it is stupid. madfloridian Mar 2013 #84
+100000000000000000000000000000000000000 Little Star Mar 2013 #89
Sinkholes will become common in other areas OldHippieChick Mar 2013 #85
You mean to tell me that pumping groundwater out of waterlogged land... Scootaloo Mar 2013 #90
Excellent Post. FarPoint Mar 2013 #91
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