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NRaleighLiberal

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Fri Feb 22, 2013, 01:41 PM Feb 2013

Last night I went to the bar to watch basketball. Instead, I got the full litany of RWTPs. [View all]

Place was packed, only one seat left at the bar and I made the mistake of turning to the person next to me and commenting that the game seems to be starting a bit late. There must be a Seinfeld/Curb Your Enthusiasm type descriptive term for what happened next when the fellow next to me saw the opening - gave him a centimeter, and he took over my evening.

I guess it is good practice every now and then to end up sitting next to someone that is your polar opposite in terms of ideology. Among the wonderful lines I had thrown at me (and gleefully rebutted)...

"this global warming stuff is just another case of politics and big government trying to brainwash people. I remember a few years ago when the weather around here was really cold...The government is telling the scientists what to say"

"I believe in evolution - and that we will evolve into where sperm count lowers and we have fewer babies - so carbon emissions will be reduced, and we will evolve to be able to deal with it"

"My wife and I are in therapy because she just doesn't get me.... I really think money is the most important thing and I also think that man should be the hunter/gatherer/wage earner, and my wife should be the one staying home with the kids"

"the only things that should be government-led are our country's defense - everything else should be privatized"

and that is just a small selection of where the chat went over the 2.5 hours I was there.

Oh the fun I had.....the poor beleaguered fellow didn't know what hit him as I whacked away every talking point he had and he ended up saying "hey man, you really made me think about some of these things"

But - and I guess this is the learning - when you are face to face with someone, you actually engage with facts - the internet is so different when you can just toss any old insult or throw away comment at someone. Just reinforced how important it is for people to actually talk. I really think I may have put a pinprick into his right-wing bubble that he clearly lived in his whole life.

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Privatized Fire and Police?? Cooley Hurd Feb 2013 #1
We actually got into a whole thing about why deregulation in general doesn't work... NRaleighLiberal Feb 2013 #3
That's just what they ALL do. rivegauche Feb 2013 #16
Buncha parrots... Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2013 #22
Hey... my two conures resent that! nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #25
The one here talks himself to sleep... Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2013 #30
It's a conure nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #32
Could be worse... Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2013 #33
Every time I watch I laugh nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #35
America started out with private fire societies jmowreader Feb 2013 #29
And it may end up with them KamaAina Feb 2013 #37
I've been here longer than a couple years, and I remember the incident... Cooley Hurd Feb 2013 #40
I recall that Tennessee town - lovemydog Feb 2013 #42
Good for you! I was recently giving a lot of thought about how we can gateley Feb 2013 #2
Thanks, and yes - I can get a bit agitated when confronted by my ideological opposites. NRaleighLiberal Feb 2013 #4
You had yourself a true, red-blooded Amurican there! AndyA Feb 2013 #5
In that particular bar, in North Raleigh, I had no doubts I was in the minority. NRaleighLiberal Feb 2013 #6
I so envy people like you. narnian60 Feb 2013 #7
If we "do battle" we accomplish nothing. We need the approach NRL took -- person to person gateley Feb 2013 #8
Oh, it's person to person, alright, narnian60 Feb 2013 #10
it's not easy, and he had to catch me in the right mood - and 8 years of reading NRaleighLiberal Feb 2013 #14
where the rubber meets the road marions ghost Feb 2013 #9
reminds me that we need a local meeting of the minds, do we not? NRaleighLiberal Feb 2013 #13
yes if the minds are available marions ghost Feb 2013 #43
Funny how fast these same people will become liberal when all of a sudden they truly southernyankeebelle Feb 2013 #11
"funny" is one adjective. I can think of others! NRaleighLiberal Feb 2013 #12
LOL, well am trying to keep it classy. southernyankeebelle Feb 2013 #20
They don't become liberal at all, they spout about how THEY have Earned it. All of a sudden, it's SammyWinstonJack Feb 2013 #26
Your getting them mixed up with Teapublicans. They are the ones who are entitled. southernyankeebelle Feb 2013 #31
No doubt he had to run back home to Fox News Duer 157099 Feb 2013 #15
Except that even the military is being privatized adieu Feb 2013 #17
The military is slowly being privatized The Wizard Feb 2013 #18
That's sounds like a stressfull way to take in a BBall game. DrewFlorida Feb 2013 #19
It helps to have a section of your brain marions ghost Feb 2013 #44
In a building where I did the landscape and take care of the grounds one of the .... Botany Feb 2013 #21
Global warming = big government brainwashing???? Initech Feb 2013 #23
What exactly did he consider would be in our defense? EC Feb 2013 #24
Great story... n/t Sekhmets Daughter Feb 2013 #27
i'm the token liberal at my local hang in east county san diego.. frylock Feb 2013 #28
You do realize I will be in your neck of the woods nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #36
i live on the west end of the Gorge by MTRP.. frylock Feb 2013 #38
So am I nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #39
thx. will do. frylock Feb 2013 #41
In Virginia they voted to allow guns in bars; 3 weeks later a shooting occured just1voice Feb 2013 #34
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