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In reply to the discussion: A man in PA shoots 2 family dogs who wander onto his sheep farm [View all]BainsBane
(53,032 posts)182. only when my dog gets into spats
with her friends. I wouldn't really call it a frenzy. Dogs vary a great deal in their aggression levels. Mine is very passive. My brother's German Shepard is an entirely other matter.
It looks to me like this rancher responded to the possibility of harm rather than it's actual execution. Obviously we don't know all the details, but a dog is highly unlikely to want to kill and eat a sheep. They are far too big. A cat is another matter. They are small and look like rabbits and squirrels. My dog now knows they are not a food group, but it took some training. She's now great friends with the neighbor cat.
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Interesting that you draw the conclusion that this was a ONE time occurance...
Earth_First
Feb 2013
#44
Do you live in the country? Do you have livestock? Dogs chasing sheep can cause them to abort.
peacebird
Feb 2013
#105
Sorry, but the law protects livestock from harrassment by dogs. And that is a good thing.
peacebird
Feb 2013
#129
This may or may not have been legal. Shooting up a neighborhood is generally frowned upon, though.
yewberry
Feb 2013
#140
Having been "treed" by so called "friendly family" dogs who changed personality when in a pack
peacebird
Feb 2013
#149
What if my daughter in a fit of naughtiness was out chasing the livestock? Would you
Ed Suspicious
Feb 2013
#302
herd dogs love to 'chase' livestock, untrained and no human direction..they are a threat.
Sunlei
Feb 2013
#261
We spent a few hundred dollars on a stray that was attacked by a pack of dogs
auburngrad82
Feb 2013
#312
Dogs occassionally get loose from responsible owners. That doesn't mean they should be shot.
appleannie1
Feb 2013
#128
I know of a case in which a miniature horse was killed by roaming "family dogs"
anneboleyn
Feb 2013
#330
It's not okay for someone's dogs to endanger a neighbor's sheep even the 1st time it happened
KittyWampus
Feb 2013
#90
Sheep know the dogs that herd them, these were dogs chasing and harrassing them....
peacebird
Feb 2013
#111
I'm a former city slicker, but I understand and appreciate the "rules" of country life
peacebird
Feb 2013
#117
Well, there are those of us who don't get our kicks from murdering animals
DisgustipatedinCA
Feb 2013
#50
There are a lot of DU'ers who only get their food from grocery stores and have never lived
KittyWampus
Feb 2013
#91
the condescension in this thread would be laughable if not for the nature of the OP
frylock
Feb 2013
#241
Sheep in my state are a past time and not a livelihood. Cows are the livelihood in this state.
appleannie1
Feb 2013
#289
Bingo! I live in the country and have a lab that I adore, but I know that it is my job to make sure
peacebird
Feb 2013
#102
Sheep can get loose. I have found a pair of horses in my yard and once I found a goat. Fencing
appleannie1
Feb 2013
#290
LOL, you realize if they broke my fence getting IN they could break another place getting out?? n-t
Logical
Feb 2013
#83
Really, the animal he let escape broke my fence and was going to break more stuff....
Logical
Feb 2013
#92
Nice - is 1 person worth 1 dog, or 2? Fucking gun owners say shit like this. Sorry - humans
jmg257
Feb 2013
#33
Oh I'm sorry - did you miss this? "The dogs owners should now be able to shot this man on sight."
jmg257
Feb 2013
#69
waller, tex. my friend lost 2 calves and several young show cattle shreaded ears to pet dog packs
Sunlei
Feb 2013
#200
Legally, he can do this - not rare in rural areas, or even not-so-rural when livestock are involved
hatrack
Feb 2013
#27
I think it's very inappropriate for you to stoop to name-calling here, Sugarcoated.
slackmaster
Feb 2013
#73
Actually, most state codes have sections relating to just this circumstance. See the post a few up..
X_Digger
Feb 2013
#151
If you think that back in antiquity, other means weren't used to kill roaming dogs..
X_Digger
Feb 2013
#185
Yes, but did shepherds on occasion resort to just scaring them off on occasion?
DisgustipatedinCA
Feb 2013
#187
I would expect that the goal would be to stop the attacking dog. If it were killed, so be it. n/t
X_Digger
Feb 2013
#202
Admittedly, I've always been a city dweller, whether SR or elsewhere
DisgustipatedinCA
Feb 2013
#215
This incident does, in fact, involve an unbalanced individual on the loose with a gun
DisgustipatedinCA
Feb 2013
#307
the truth of what happened will surface and a lot of posters supporting this..
frylock
Feb 2013
#246
The only real question, for me, is whether the rancher knew that the dogs belonged to a neighbor.
Xithras
Feb 2013
#68
They are sheep herding dogs. A sheep farmer would probably know that. especially if they live next
robinlynne
Feb 2013
#337
Sorry about the lose of your chickens. A guy move here w/ a pack of huskies he allowed to roam free
KittyWampus
Feb 2013
#93
The owner claims he shot them while they were standing in front of him not running.
TeamPooka
Feb 2013
#299
Despite the fact that Pilotti told police the dogs made no contact with his sheep, ...
Kolesar
Feb 2013
#141
Mrs. Bock thinks Pilotti let the dogs into the sheep pen so that he could kill them
Kolesar
Feb 2013
#145
No one help this sick bastard if these allegations can be proved. I won't type what I am thinking.
SammyWinstonJack
Feb 2013
#271
the police investigating this are making a lot of assumptions as well, but here are some facts..
frylock
Feb 2013
#258
One dog might be called off; two or more dogs generally exhibit hunting pack behavior
FarCenter
Feb 2013
#193
Just cause someone doesn't live in a McMansion doesn't mean they're a farmer. Just like
dorkzilla
Feb 2013
#213
Read the article. A tree branch broke the fence. The dogs had NEVER been off the property before.
dorkzilla
Feb 2013
#216
My dog ran into one of those kind of fuckwits when I was 5. Said he had chickens. Didn't.
lonestarnot
Feb 2013
#208
legal to shoot dogs in your pasture yes, but what an ass if the dogs were catchable and he knew whos
Sunlei
Feb 2013
#209
As a livestock owner and a dog owner, I think the sheep owner had the right to kill the dogs.
Redford
Feb 2013
#219
Same here. This story makes me feel VIOLENT and I don't like feeling that way.
phleshdef
Feb 2013
#325
The Dogs were just being what they were, herding dogs following their instincts…
MrScorpio
Feb 2013
#276
Pilotti let the dogs into his sheep pen so that he could shoot them at close range
Kolesar
Feb 2013
#278
No Surprise That Our Resident Gun Enthusiasts Are Siding With The Farmer. (nt)
Paladin
Feb 2013
#282
I know. Why the lack of knowledge here concerning the threat posed to livestock?
anneboleyn
Feb 2013
#334
i would file a complaint with whatever local authorities there are in the area
rdking647
Feb 2013
#317
2 charges--the state could offer a plea bargain so he doesn't create a circus in a jury trial
Kolesar
Feb 2013
#323
So this jackass not only shot 2 dogs that weren't actually threatening his sheep...
Lizzie Poppet
Feb 2013
#329