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cleanhippie

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Fri Feb 8, 2013, 01:53 PM Feb 2013

Homeopathy Again Strikes Out In Style (Dr. Oz) [View all]

Recently, Dr. Mehmet Oz, the cardiologist who accepts “reiki” and “evening-out the human body’s energy aura,” announced his acceptance of homeopathy, possibly the most thoroughly tested quack medicine claim, ever; it has failed every double-blind, legitimate, scientific set of tests to which it has been subjected. In November 2002, I offered the JREF million-dollar prize to the UK homeopaths if their claims could pass an extensive test based upon the protocol designed by Dr. Jacques Benveniste [1935-2004] -- a major supporter of homeopathy -- supervised by the Royal Society, the Royal London Hospital, University College, London, and Guy's Hospital, and witnessed by the homeopaths themselves. The results were quite negative, but Dr. Oz has chosen to accept this weird idea, and endorsed it on his site. Comments immediately poured in on his website for his “Homeopathic Starter Kit”…

I took just the first 25 responses to examine. Two of them – falsely – asserted that the negative comments were being deleted, though for all I know, that might have been done, at first. Of the 25, there were nine that were in favor of Oz’s new woo-woo factor. Of those 9, five were from homeopathic “doctors” or from persons connected to “alternative” healing agencies, and two offered Dr. Oz “blessings.” There was one that I still haven’t figured out – #21, and the rest – 12 – ridiculed both the show and Dr. Oz.

Here they are, in order:

All the negative comments are being deleted. I suppose that the relative dilution of the negative comments will only make them stronger?
When a doctor tells you to take medicine with no active ingredients, it's okay to question the motives of that doctor. Just so you know.
Homeopathy is at best quack medicine and at worst potentially life threatening if taken in place of genuine medical treatment. Dr. Oz should be ashamed of himself for promoting this and in my opinion should be struck off the medical register for ignoring the first rule: “First, do no harm “. Homeopathy causes a great deal of harm.
See how your comment (and mine) gets deleted!
Jelly Beans are more delicious, and you can have a good witch doctor enchant them at half the cost. A fractional solution of atoms in a water pill isn't medicine. Investigate "peer reviewed medicine" and save your money. One can only hope the FDA discredits you and your snake oil before more people suffer while you sell them magic healing.
Seems the snake oil salesmen will never go away.
Homeopathy = water. LOLOLOLOL!
I knew Oz was a joke, but this is ridiculous. Homeopathy is one of the biggest jokes in history. LOL. Fools. Good for a laugh anyway.
Dr OZ - stick to what you know. Don't peddle overpriced water. If homeopathy worked, we'd have to recognize we are all surviving on urine.
Absurd! Sylvia Browne next?
A timely and important show to inform the public about the value of homeopathy for healing the body, mind and spirit. Very thankful that Dr Oz supports this form of medicine for his family and his audience. We appreciate having expert guests on in this field and that people can take basic steps towards healing and learning about fundamental remedies in every day ailments. Blessings, Debby.
Thirsty anyone? Homeopathy is known to cure thirst. Of course, why wouldn't it, if it's really nothing more than water?
Dr Oz thank you for your program on Homeopathy. I as a homeopathic doctor really appreciate like many others your courage to air such a program. May be in future shows you can continue to bring in Homeopathic doctors from all over the world to share their experiences. Congratulations. (from an “alternative school” in Calcutta)
is there a book/site that tells whats best for who? they touched a bit about it on the show, i kno sum things work different for sum people...im really interested in transitioning
No, I think what you'll have to do is take a medical degree. Homeopathy is a dangerous scam.
Homeopathic remedies are just water with no active ingredients and no therapeutic value, unless you are thirsty.
Wow, as usual, I learned so much. Thank you for having homeopaths on your show that were clear on what homeopathy actually is and practical ways to use it for myself and my family. I've been very interested in homeopathy and am excited to hear more successful remedies that it is used for, especially those ailments that traditional medicine doesn't have any answers for. I'll be ready for the next show.
Think about that for a minute... if traditional medicine does not have an answer, could it be because the answer is complex, the illness little understood? Do you really believe that medical science has not looked at these "cures" and found them useless. Save your hard earned money. Don't buy into this pseudoscience just because it's promoted by a handful of people with degrees. Do some research, and you'll find many feel that homeopathy is no better than placebo, if that.
Wonderful to see homeopathy presented here! Next shows might include using homeopathy for more chronic ailments where it also can offer benefit!
Yes, I agree with Dr. Khan, thanks to Dr. Oz for the courage to do this show on homeopathy!
If you have questions about homeopathy check this out!
You're the man Dr. Oz, thank you for coming out, glad to know that there are a few good men around after all... God bless you.
homeopathy is considered the first alternative healing after allopathy, by World Health Organisation (Davar’s College of Homeopathy, Mumbai, India And please note: “Allopathy” refers to all modern medical means other than homeopathy. Thus, this commenter is saying that orthodox medicine comes first in efficacy, followed by quackery!)
Amazing show. Thank You for your support for homeopathy. It heals at the deepest level by catalyzing the innate healing responses our body has. (Holistic Health Practitioner)
Thank you Doctor Oz for posting about homeopathy. It is a medicine that changed my life. I found out about it by accident, and I can say because of it, I am very healthy today. (posted by The Four Winds Society, a group of shamans preaching ancient Inca healing ideas)



Count on it, Dr. Oz will not be fazed in the least, and will continue to promote this nonsense from his TV pulpit…

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DU rec... SidDithers Feb 2013 #1
"Homeopathy threads"... zappaman Feb 2013 #17
Dr. Oz is an asshole AngryAmish Feb 2013 #2
and a quack. HappyMe Feb 2013 #3
He is a highly respected cardiologist obamanut2012 Feb 2013 #4
That's the shame of it. HappyMe Feb 2013 #6
Yup obamanut2012 Feb 2013 #12
He didn't go insane MattBaggins Feb 2013 #30
He's a shyster. Lone_Star_Dem Feb 2013 #8
As a general rule of thumb, anyone with a 'show' or an 'infomercial' should be discounted. randome Feb 2013 #11
Exactly. Lone_Star_Dem Feb 2013 #15
Except for Vegas magicians like Penn & Teller or the Amazing Randi. Dr Fate Feb 2013 #41
An Ivy League-educated surgeon turned snake-oil salesman brentspeak Feb 2013 #10
The shame of it obamanut2012 Feb 2013 #14
Worse than that. He should lose his license and any accreditation he has MattBaggins Feb 2013 #29
I know so little about this, I had to look it up hollysmom Feb 2013 #5
Correct. cleanhippie Feb 2013 #7
Didn't get enough warm fuzzies on the other one, eh JanMichael Feb 2013 #18
Hi! cleanhippie Feb 2013 #19
Most docs I know allow their patients to use whatever homeopathy quackery Warpy Feb 2013 #9
Well said... JuniperLea Feb 2013 #21
You can be a sick as you want. MattBaggins Feb 2013 #31
So now you're a mind reader... JuniperLea Feb 2013 #33
Real doctors and scientists agree that using a placebo MattBaggins Feb 2013 #35
No they don't JuniperLea Feb 2013 #62
You are not correct MattBaggins Feb 2013 #63
Google is your friend... JuniperLea Feb 2013 #64
You need to use google with a critical mind MattBaggins Feb 2013 #65
Interesting, but that doesn't explain why babies show improvement ecstatic Feb 2013 #56
The baby probably doesn't. Warpy Feb 2013 #57
By what measure do you make that claim? cleanhippie Feb 2013 #58
My nephew's nose was running nonstop. He was given homeopathic cold pills ecstatic Feb 2013 #59
Objective? hardly. cleanhippie Feb 2013 #60
I think the way homeopathy is suppose to work 2pooped2pop Feb 2013 #13
Homeopathy is actually KT2000 Feb 2013 #16
It is dilution. The particles of (whatever) get farther and farther apart and fewer and fewer. kestrel91316 Feb 2013 #20
for your consideration: KT2000 Feb 2013 #23
It is vibration that creates KT2000 Feb 2013 #39
lol obamanut2012 Feb 2013 #54
Vibration as in very fast shaking KT2000 Feb 2013 #61
I agree. But there are a lot of conservatives on this board who have never loudsue Feb 2013 #22
indeed noiretextatique Feb 2013 #24
Some minds are so open that the brain has fallen out...nt SidDithers Feb 2013 #25
And some are so closed.. they Cha Feb 2013 #27
+3 green for victory Feb 2013 #26
And again.. False statement alert MattBaggins Feb 2013 #34
And about the money MattBaggins Feb 2013 #36
Oh wow, so if I want to create graphene, I can just dilute some pencil lead in water. EOTE Feb 2013 #28
vibration creates KT2000 Feb 2013 #37
Oh wow, you were serious. NT EOTE Feb 2013 #38
Yes, he is! cleanhippie Feb 2013 #42
No it is not MattBaggins Feb 2013 #32
It is total nonesense obamanut2012 Feb 2013 #52
Nevah hoid of Dr. Oz, but I do know that the best medicine comes from Republican owned corporations. Dr Fate Feb 2013 #40
My new career... Homeopathic Auto Mechanic MattBaggins Feb 2013 #43
LOL! I dont know jack shit about homepathy. Dr Fate Feb 2013 #44
I am quite learned on the homeopathy MattBaggins Feb 2013 #45
I am sure that your chest has been pried open, and you will take thousands of $$$ worth of pills. Dr Fate Feb 2013 #46
You and I are finished MattBaggins Feb 2013 #49
Would it have to be water, Heywood J Feb 2013 #47
LOL! Cars=human beings. I thought cars=guns. Dr Fate Feb 2013 #48
What's the lesson from all of this? Heywood J Feb 2013 #53
The approved substrates are water and sugar MattBaggins Feb 2013 #50
NOTICE: My auto mechanic post was not meant to be attached to your post MattBaggins Feb 2013 #51
Then there's the magnets... PasadenaTrudy Feb 2013 #55
ayurveda and acupuncture have been used for thousands of years. Manifestor_of_Light Feb 2013 #66
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