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Fri Feb 8, 2013, 12:53 PM

Homeopathy Again Strikes Out In Style (Dr. Oz)

Recently, Dr. Mehmet Oz, the cardiologist who accepts “reiki” and “evening-out the human body’s energy aura,” announced his acceptance of homeopathy, possibly the most thoroughly tested quack medicine claim, ever; it has failed every double-blind, legitimate, scientific set of tests to which it has been subjected. In November 2002, I offered the JREF million-dollar prize to the UK homeopaths if their claims could pass an extensive test based upon the protocol designed by Dr. Jacques Benveniste -- a major supporter of homeopathy -- supervised by the Royal Society, the Royal London Hospital, University College, London, and Guy's Hospital, and witnessed by the homeopaths themselves. The results were quite negative, but Dr. Oz has chosen to accept this weird idea, and endorsed it on his site. Comments immediately poured in on his website for his “Homeopathic Starter Kit”…

I took just the first 25 responses to examine. Two of them – falsely – asserted that the negative comments were being deleted, though for all I know, that might have been done, at first. Of the 25, there were nine that were in favor of Oz’s new woo-woo factor. Of those 9, five were from homeopathic “doctors” or from persons connected to “alternative” healing agencies, and two offered Dr. Oz “blessings.” There was one that I still haven’t figured out – #21, and the rest – 12 – ridiculed both the show and Dr. Oz.

Here they are, in order:

All the negative comments are being deleted. I suppose that the relative dilution of the negative comments will only make them stronger?
When a doctor tells you to take medicine with no active ingredients, it's okay to question the motives of that doctor. Just so you know.
Homeopathy is at best quack medicine and at worst potentially life threatening if taken in place of genuine medical treatment. Dr. Oz should be ashamed of himself for promoting this and in my opinion should be struck off the medical register for ignoring the first rule: “First, do no harm “. Homeopathy causes a great deal of harm.
See how your comment (and mine) gets deleted!
Jelly Beans are more delicious, and you can have a good witch doctor enchant them at half the cost. A fractional solution of atoms in a water pill isn't medicine. Investigate "peer reviewed medicine" and save your money. One can only hope the FDA discredits you and your snake oil before more people suffer while you sell them magic healing.
Seems the snake oil salesmen will never go away.
Homeopathy = water. LOLOLOLOL!
I knew Oz was a joke, but this is ridiculous. Homeopathy is one of the biggest jokes in history. LOL. Fools. Good for a laugh anyway.
Dr OZ - stick to what you know. Don't peddle overpriced water. If homeopathy worked, we'd have to recognize we are all surviving on urine.
Absurd! Sylvia Browne next?
A timely and important show to inform the public about the value of homeopathy for healing the body, mind and spirit. Very thankful that Dr Oz supports this form of medicine for his family and his audience. We appreciate having expert guests on in this field and that people can take basic steps towards healing and learning about fundamental remedies in every day ailments. Blessings, Debby.
Thirsty anyone? Homeopathy is known to cure thirst. Of course, why wouldn't it, if it's really nothing more than water?
Dr Oz thank you for your program on Homeopathy. I as a homeopathic doctor really appreciate like many others your courage to air such a program. May be in future shows you can continue to bring in Homeopathic doctors from all over the world to share their experiences. Congratulations. (from an “alternative school” in Calcutta)
is there a book/site that tells whats best for who? they touched a bit about it on the show, i kno sum things work different for sum people...im really interested in transitioning
No, I think what you'll have to do is take a medical degree. Homeopathy is a dangerous scam.
Homeopathic remedies are just water with no active ingredients and no therapeutic value, unless you are thirsty.
Wow, as usual, I learned so much. Thank you for having homeopaths on your show that were clear on what homeopathy actually is and practical ways to use it for myself and my family. I've been very interested in homeopathy and am excited to hear more successful remedies that it is used for, especially those ailments that traditional medicine doesn't have any answers for. I'll be ready for the next show.
Think about that for a minute... if traditional medicine does not have an answer, could it be because the answer is complex, the illness little understood? Do you really believe that medical science has not looked at these "cures" and found them useless. Save your hard earned money. Don't buy into this pseudoscience just because it's promoted by a handful of people with degrees. Do some research, and you'll find many feel that homeopathy is no better than placebo, if that.
Wonderful to see homeopathy presented here! Next shows might include using homeopathy for more chronic ailments where it also can offer benefit!
Yes, I agree with Dr. Khan, thanks to Dr. Oz for the courage to do this show on homeopathy!
If you have questions about homeopathy check this out!
You're the man Dr. Oz, thank you for coming out, glad to know that there are a few good men around after all... God bless you.
homeopathy is considered the first alternative healing after allopathy, by World Health Organisation (Davar’s College of Homeopathy, Mumbai, India And please note: “Allopathy” refers to all modern medical means other than homeopathy. Thus, this commenter is saying that orthodox medicine comes first in efficacy, followed by quackery!)
Amazing show. Thank You for your support for homeopathy. It heals at the deepest level by catalyzing the innate healing responses our body has. (Holistic Health Practitioner)
Thank you Doctor Oz for posting about homeopathy. It is a medicine that changed my life. I found out about it by accident, and I can say because of it, I am very healthy today. (posted by The Four Winds Society, a group of shamans preaching ancient Inca healing ideas)



Count on it, Dr. Oz will not be fazed in the least, and will continue to promote this nonsense from his TV pulpit…

http://www.randi.org/site/index.php/swift-blog/2014-homeopathy-again-strikes-out-in-style.html

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MattBaggins Feb 2013 #30
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randome Feb 2013 #11
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Dr Fate Feb 2013 #41
brentspeak Feb 2013 #10
obamanut2012 Feb 2013 #14
MattBaggins Feb 2013 #29
hollysmom Feb 2013 #5
cleanhippie Feb 2013 #7
JanMichael Feb 2013 #18
cleanhippie Feb 2013 #19
Warpy Feb 2013 #9
JuniperLea Feb 2013 #21
MattBaggins Feb 2013 #31
JuniperLea Feb 2013 #33
MattBaggins Feb 2013 #35
JuniperLea Feb 2013 #62
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cleanhippie Feb 2013 #58
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cleanhippie Feb 2013 #60
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obamanut2012 Feb 2013 #54
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Cha Feb 2013 #27
green for victory Feb 2013 #26
MattBaggins Feb 2013 #34
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EOTE Feb 2013 #28
KT2000 Feb 2013 #37
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Response to cleanhippie (Original post)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 12:55 PM

1. DU rec...

Love homeopathy threads. Nothing at DU provides more laughs than someone trying to defend homeopathy.



And you know they'll be here soon.

Energy medicine!!

Sid

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Response to SidDithers (Reply #1)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 01:22 PM

17. "Homeopathy threads"...

are the new "chemtrails threads" of DU!
You gotta fucking love them!

They are woonderful!

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Response to cleanhippie (Original post)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 12:55 PM

2. Dr. Oz is an asshole

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Response to AngryAmish (Reply #2)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 12:57 PM

3. and a quack.

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Response to HappyMe (Reply #3)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 01:01 PM

4. He is a highly respected cardiologist

Whose peers think he's went insane.

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Response to obamanut2012 (Reply #4)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 01:05 PM

6. That's the shame of it.

How many people could he have helped had he not gone round the bend.

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Response to HappyMe (Reply #6)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 01:10 PM

12. Yup

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Response to obamanut2012 (Reply #4)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 04:03 PM

30. He didn't go insane

He wants money and ratings. He knows the words he reads from the teleprompter are bullshit.

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Response to AngryAmish (Reply #2)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 01:07 PM

8. He's a shyster.

The products he pimps on his show are ones his cronies market. Even when it's a known "junk science" premise if they think it'll fly long enough to make some cash he has them on and the sales fly.

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Response to Lone_Star_Dem (Reply #8)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 01:09 PM

11. As a general rule of thumb, anyone with a 'show' or an 'infomercial' should be discounted.

Science does not depend on showmanship.

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Response to randome (Reply #11)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 01:12 PM

15. Exactly.

You would not believe the confidentiality agreements some of his cronies inflict on their employees. I can only imagine Dr. Oz requires the same.

It's a sham and they know it's a sham.

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Response to randome (Reply #11)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 04:50 PM

41. Except for Vegas magicians like Penn & Teller or the Amazing Randi.

Any one who has a show or uses showmanship cant be trusted- unless they are Vegas magicians and or libertarian skeptics.

I already agree with everything in the OPs link to the Illusionist showman's website- so I think an exception is warranted in this case.

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Response to AngryAmish (Reply #2)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 01:08 PM

10. An Ivy League-educated surgeon turned snake-oil salesman

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Response to brentspeak (Reply #10)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 01:12 PM

14. The shame of it

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Response to AngryAmish (Reply #2)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 03:58 PM

29. Worse than that. He should lose his license and any accreditation he has

He knows better and is only doing this for money and ratings. As a doctor he ought to be held to a higher standard and the AMA and any organizations Dr. Oz belongs to should publicly disassociate themselves from him.

Fucking idiot he is.

Go back and look at how he tried to promote that charlatan from Brazil, John of Scammer.

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Response to cleanhippie (Original post)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 01:02 PM

5. I know so little about this, I had to look it up

Homeopathy has nothing to do with home remedies which often works -i.e. chicken soup.
Reminds me I have a friend who is very smart, but she quit her job to become an "energy doctor". My look of disbelief as she told me and tried to cure my negative energy has apparently come between our friendship of 40 years.

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Response to hollysmom (Reply #5)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 01:07 PM

7. Correct.

There is another thread going that shows exactly what homeopathy really is. Have a look, it will be the most enlightening 2 minutes of your day.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022334406

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Response to cleanhippie (Reply #7)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 01:31 PM

18. Didn't get enough warm fuzzies on the other one, eh

"there is another thread going...."

I have been on DU 10 years, this is the first time I have ever seen someone start a thread to promote their other thread. Brilliant, absolutely brilliant.

Better post one in the lounge, too...and while you are at it, check Google news too....you might be able to make it in LBN!

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Response to JanMichael (Reply #18)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 01:37 PM

19. Hi!

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Response to cleanhippie (Original post)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 01:08 PM

9. Most docs I know allow their patients to use whatever homeopathy quackery

some practitioner has recommended, even when they're hospitalized for something serious.

It's water, folks, and does no harm. Most docs realize it's triggering the placebo effect in the people who cling to it and just let them go on their merry way.

As long as they use it for minor complaints and use real medicine for the major stuff, there isn't much of a problem.

All it does is lighten their wallets and maybe give them a lift from the placebo effect.

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Response to Warpy (Reply #9)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 02:00 PM

21. Well said...

I'm pretty sick of the pearl clutching on this issue. Placebo effect is real medicine, period. Until we understand and harness the power of the human brain, we're losing out on a lot of good help for a lot of good people in need.

What bugs the hell out of me is all the pearl clutching and hair pulling and screaming about something that doesn't concern anyone except the person involved. I'm really sick of fake outrage over non-issues.

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Response to JuniperLea (Reply #21)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 04:07 PM

31. You can be a sick as you want.

Those of us who care about Science don't give a shit.

You do not understand what the placebo effect actually means in medicine nor the ethical issues surrounding its use.

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Response to MattBaggins (Reply #31)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 04:12 PM

33. So now you're a mind reader...

And know what I do and do not know... I call that quackery of the lowest form.

You don't know jack about me or what I know... you are attempting to discredit with nonsense about something you cannot possibly know.

You can be as sick as you want as well.

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Response to JuniperLea (Reply #33)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 04:17 PM

35. Real doctors and scientists agree that using a placebo

as actual medical treatment with out patient knowledge is highly unethical.

Quacks who promote CAM as legit, but when backed into a corner, then try to pass it off as OK, because it's a placebo, are in fact, scoundrels.

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Response to MattBaggins (Reply #35)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 07:05 PM

62. No they don't

This has been a subject of discussion in the medical field for decades... and the jury is still out. Telling someone they are receiving a placebo negates the effectiveness... that's what makes a placebo work.

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Response to JuniperLea (Reply #62)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 02:16 PM

63. You are not correct

It is unethical to give a placebo and not tell the patient.

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Response to MattBaggins (Reply #63)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 04:43 PM

64. Google is your friend...

The mere fact that the patient is told can negate the placebo effect... you have to believe it's going to work for it to work.

Google will show you how the debate is still on and how much of what has been said in this thread is balderdash.

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Response to JuniperLea (Reply #64)

Wed Feb 20, 2013, 01:56 PM

65. You need to use google with a critical mind

There maybe many people out there on the outskirts of ethics that believe there is a "debate" or a "controversy", but no legitimate research institute or organization would allow a study that did not inform a participant that they might be receiving the placebo.

You are just plain wrong and if you believe it is OK to lie to people, you are also, I'm sorry to say, unethical.

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Response to Warpy (Reply #9)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 06:21 PM

56. Interesting, but that doesn't explain why babies show improvement

after receiving homeopathic solutions, like Hyland's Baby Cold Tablets, teething tabs, etc.

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Response to ecstatic (Reply #56)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 06:30 PM

57. The baby probably doesn't.

The mom does, however.

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Response to ecstatic (Reply #56)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 07:06 PM

58. By what measure do you make that claim?

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Response to cleanhippie (Reply #58)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 07:10 PM

59. My nephew's nose was running nonstop. He was given homeopathic cold pills

and his nose stopped running. It was the first time he ever took pills and he didn't know that it was for his cold. I think that's a pretty objective measure?

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Response to ecstatic (Reply #59)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 07:15 PM

60. Objective? hardly.

Anecdotal? Positively. There is no way to know that those pills did anything, but every way to know that they didn't.

One persons anecdotal experience does not an objective claim make. Your nephew is hardly enough to claim "babies get better".

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Response to cleanhippie (Original post)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 01:11 PM

13. I think the way homeopathy is suppose to work

is more about the mental aspect. As you dilute the stuff 100 times, then dilute that 100 times or whatever, it is putting into your head that you are making medicine, you are healing, you are being cured. Each dilution repeating that message to your subconscious.

I looked into it many years ago and decided it is nothing more than that. I can see how the mixing or diluting could almost put you in a trance like state. Theta brain waves and all. Would almost work like prayers and rituals.

But if someone else mixes it, you are just buying water. No push of your message into your brain 100 x, then 100 times that, or whatever.

So I never bothered trying it and did not include it when I had a "new age" kind of store.

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Response to cleanhippie (Original post)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 01:17 PM

16. Homeopathy is actually

the earliest form of nanosizing. The same process is used to achieve the nanosized particles. It is not nonsense.

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Response to KT2000 (Reply #16)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 01:54 PM

20. It is dilution. The particles of (whatever) get farther and farther apart and fewer and fewer.

It has nothing to do with nanotechnology. It is utter nonsense with no scientific basis whatsoever.

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Response to kestrel91316 (Reply #20)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 02:13 PM

23. for your consideration:

www.currentscience.ac.in/Volumes/100/07/0977.pdf

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Response to kestrel91316 (Reply #20)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 04:41 PM

39. It is vibration that creates

the nanoparticles.

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Response to KT2000 (Reply #39)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 06:04 PM

54. lol

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Response to obamanut2012 (Reply #54)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 07:31 PM

61. Vibration as in very fast shaking

Ultrasonication or high speed stirring is used in creating lipid nanoparticles. One of the problems they have found is contamination by the metal containers.
Analysis of some homeopathic solutions has found glass nanoparticles - from the container it was shaken or vibrated in.

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Response to KT2000 (Reply #16)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 02:04 PM

22. I agree. But there are a lot of conservatives on this board who have never

tried to open their minds to anything that would go against the quackery that passes for the American medical establishment.

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Response to loudsue (Reply #22)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 03:18 PM

24. indeed

i am a breast cancer survivor, and if i had listened to my first round of doctors, i may not have receoved the best treatment. my naturopath diagnosed my vitamin D deficiency, and accupuncture, reiki, and yoga all helped me deal with the side effects of treatment. i am not an advocate of homeopathy, however, blind faith in doctors and the medical establishment is not necessarily good for one's health or wll-being.

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Response to loudsue (Reply #22)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 03:21 PM

25. Some minds are so open that the brain has fallen out...nt

Sid

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Response to SidDithers (Reply #25)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 03:40 PM

27. And some are so closed.. they

can't get enough oxygen.

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Response to loudsue (Reply #22)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 03:35 PM

26. +3

 

3 times now alternatives have worked where conventional medicine was just treating the symptoms, and required return visits- or in one case surgery which was "required immediately" (he meant before I could get a second opinion).

Strangely enough, one doctor was not interested in hearing about why I wasn't going to re-book my bi-monthly visit, costing $200/mo. I can't begin to imagine why. And anyone that thinks Chiropractors are practicing a bunk science doesn't believe there is any connection between back pain and posture. They are making fools of themselves, while they think they are laughing at fools. Funny.

It's all about the $. The AMA Know$.

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Response to green for victory (Reply #26)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 04:13 PM

34. And again.. False statement alert

"anyone that thinks Chiropractors are practicing a bunk science doesn't believe there is any connection between back pain and posture."

No critics of Chiropractors believes any such BS statement.

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Response to green for victory (Reply #26)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 04:24 PM

36. And about the money

You think practioners of big woo are not in it for the money? Why else would they be on TV with half hour infomercials hawking shit they know damn well doesn't work?

We have one neurologists in my city but over a dozen people practicing acupuncture and I'm supposed to believe they are not the charlatans trying to seperate fools from their money?

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Response to KT2000 (Reply #16)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 03:53 PM

28. Oh wow, so if I want to create graphene, I can just dilute some pencil lead in water.

A whole bunch of times until it becomes a one layer thick surface of graphene.

Science... it doesn't work that way.

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Response to EOTE (Reply #28)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 04:38 PM

37. vibration creates

the nanoparticles.
That is the process to make homeopathic remedies and it is the process to make the many nanoparticles used in commerce today.

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Response to KT2000 (Reply #37)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 04:41 PM

38. Oh wow, you were serious. NT

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Response to EOTE (Reply #38)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 05:00 PM

42. Yes, he is!

Scary, huh?

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Response to KT2000 (Reply #16)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 04:09 PM

32. No it is not

You are a taking a scientific term and trying to make it apply to homeopathy.

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Response to KT2000 (Reply #16)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 06:03 PM

52. It is total nonesense

It is water with "vibrations" and "energy" added.

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Response to cleanhippie (Original post)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 04:46 PM

40. Nevah hoid of Dr. Oz, but I do know that the best medicine comes from Republican owned corporations.

Considering that heart disease, diabetes and cancer rates in the US get lower every year, and considering that the US has the lowest rates of these diseases in the world, it is clear that the Republican owned Health corporations are keeping us healthier than any of these crazy hippie types ever could.

Libertarian skeptics know that Republican owned corporate science is making us healthier every year-by leaps & bounds- all any skeptic has to do is look at the stats. Even respected scientists like Penn & Teller or the Amazing Randi can tell you that.

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Response to Dr Fate (Reply #40)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 05:08 PM

43. My new career... Homeopathic Auto Mechanic

Next time you need an oil change, bring your car to me. I will take a drop of your old oil, mix it with a gallon of water, shake it up, and then pour that into your car.

What, you wouldn't do that to your car yet suggest it is entirely plausible to do to your body?

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Response to MattBaggins (Reply #43)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 05:16 PM

44. LOL! I dont know jack shit about homepathy.

Dont need ta. I stay healthy by taking thousands of dollars worth of safe, clean, Republican made pills.

I just know that Republican owned Health corporations have kept me healthier than any nutty liberal hippie ever could.

Saw it on the Penn & Teller, read it on the magician's website. Heard about it from the scientists who I am sure were NOT funded by Republican owned corporations.

Next time you get high cholesterol, I'll give you some Crestor. Hopefully it wont cause an allergic reaction that turns your brain into mush like it did when my father took it. Or howzabout some Lipitor- hopefully it wont make the hair fall out of your arms & legs and eyebrows like it did with my cousin.

Afterall, everyone knows that high cholesterol is caused when your body fails to produce enough crestor and or lipitor. Any respectable doctor obviously agrees.

Whatevah ya do-Dont listen to those crazy "homeo" hippies who tell you to lower it by eating more greens and shit. That wont work. That's not science.

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Response to Dr Fate (Reply #44)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 05:30 PM

45. I am quite learned on the homeopathy

Please stop with the whole Republican silly meme, for those who realize that CAM remedies are nonsense. Orrin Hatch is one of the idiots who pushed for more CAM shit and prevented the FDA from removing the asinine Homeopathy rules of 1938.

I have had two operations on my heart and I take generic lipitor. Much better then some silly extract that has been diluted 1:10^60 times.

You are also very confused. You claim I know nothing about homeopathy than your last statement is about eating greens and shit. Ummm every doctor knows that. In fact the silly hippies learned that from the doctors and scientists.

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Response to MattBaggins (Reply #45)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 05:46 PM

46. I am sure that your chest has been pried open, and you will take thousands of $$$ worth of pills.

Which is what qualifies you to school me on how to be healthy- "Science style!"

Better to have your chest pried open and your heart cut-up than to do something extreme and untested, like eating a plant based diet or some other wooish, hippy nonsense.

That wouldnt be scientific. After all you tried it and it didnt work- right? Or maybe that was too extreme. Then you had your chest pried open.

But seriously- Yes-I am obviosuly very confused, despite the fact that my I lowered my cholesterol and high blood preassure to optimal levels by ignoring every word my former doctor said to me. No lipitor, no chest operations- not that my former doctor did not suggest it. Oh well, someone else can pay for his tee-times and donation to the GOP. You, perhaps?

I am obviously much healthier than you are, so that is enough for me.

Now- if I may switch back into character- I have to go- it's time for my scientifically approved, twice daily insulin shots. If I dont take it now, then I'll not balance out about the roast beef I'm going to eat (In moderation, of course). Science tells me it's the best protein, ya know!

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Response to Dr Fate (Reply #46)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 05:56 PM

49. You and I are finished

I am discussing the Science of Homeopathy (ie lack of) and you are off in lala land talking about hippies and eating greens.

We are not on the same wavelength. Goodbye

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Response to MattBaggins (Reply #43)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 05:52 PM

47. Would it have to be water,

or could you put a drop of new oil in a gallon of old oil and shake it?

Does it also work with coolant, brake, transmission, and power steering fluids?

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Response to Heywood J (Reply #47)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 05:54 PM

48. LOL! Cars=human beings. I thought cars=guns.

Whoops- wrong thread.

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Response to Dr Fate (Reply #48)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 06:04 PM

53. What's the lesson from all of this?

Cars = everything.

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Response to Heywood J (Reply #47)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 05:59 PM

50. The approved substrates are water and sugar

Give sugar a try. Coolant is sweet so mix that up with some sugar and give it a shot.

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Response to MattBaggins (Reply #43)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 06:01 PM

51. NOTICE: My auto mechanic post was not meant to be attached to your post

it was supposed to be attached to the OP... sorry about that.

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Response to cleanhippie (Original post)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 06:13 PM

55. Then there's the magnets...

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Response to cleanhippie (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2013, 02:03 PM

66. ayurveda and acupuncture have been used for thousands of years.

in India and China.

I do not lump those in with homeopathy. I think homeopathy is woo-woo.

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