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In reply to the discussion: Attn: Gun Owners. This is a PSA. Take 5 minutes and do one small thing for gun safety. U know u can! [View all]av8r1998
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i didn't mean you should teach people for charity- more like if a woman with 4 kids to feed has a restraining order on her ex, she shouldn't have to pay for training, OR have a gun without it...gats are enuf $$ as it is...and the $$ goes to the WRONG people...
Oh no I get that. I think monies collected for fees should be directed at training for those that can't afford it. I didn't mean you expected me to train someone for nothing, though I do teach for my cost when circumstances warrant it.
Just doing my good deed.
i see what you're saying, but i've heard estimates of 500,000 stolen guns a year- sure, a majority are straw sales, but $2 million in guns stolen from 1 guy? or sold by marines? yikes!
Stolen and found?
Stolen and returned?
Stolen and used in a crime?
Stolen and used to shoot someone?
More info is needed and I would want more details on the stats
For example, I was robbed at gunpoint 20 + years ago.
They were repeat armed burglars
They used a gun and never shot anyone.
i think the problem may be-
i really doubt someone buying a gun in a parking lot with no ID is going to even look at the serial number. with no BG check or paperwork relating to the actual owner, it becomes a...dead end?
why would someone avoiding a BG check report a gun they maybe shouldn't have had to the cops-
i doubt 'i don't know' would be a good answer to a cop saying 'what's the serial # of your stolen gun', ya know?
'where was it stolen from?'
the dashbox of my car.
'oh, great, maybe its in your kids locker at school, good work..'
um...
In CT that's unlawful storage.
As far as tracking down a straw purchase, there are a lot of ways of investigating that would not require registration.
That's what detectives do.
"Who did you sell the gun to?
How did you meet him?
Get a description"
Etc. Good old fasioned police work.
After that, if there is RAS of a Straw Sale, warrant for phone records, internet, etc.
you might think this is out there, but if there's gps in millions of smartphones, why not guns?
technology can do MORE than make guns more 'efficient' at what they do...
Smartphones are powered devices with complicated software and batteries.
Guns are "Complex Machines", meaning they perform more than 1 action, but they are unpowered, and RFID is too short range to be effective, so GPS wouldn't work.
Oh no I get that. I think monies collected for fees should be directed at training for those that can't afford it. I didn't mean you expected me to train someone for nothing, though I do teach for my cost when circumstances warrant it.
Just doing my good deed.
i see what you're saying, but i've heard estimates of 500,000 stolen guns a year- sure, a majority are straw sales, but $2 million in guns stolen from 1 guy? or sold by marines? yikes!
Stolen and found?
Stolen and returned?
Stolen and used in a crime?
Stolen and used to shoot someone?
More info is needed and I would want more details on the stats
For example, I was robbed at gunpoint 20 + years ago.
They were repeat armed burglars
They used a gun and never shot anyone.
i think the problem may be-
i really doubt someone buying a gun in a parking lot with no ID is going to even look at the serial number. with no BG check or paperwork relating to the actual owner, it becomes a...dead end?
why would someone avoiding a BG check report a gun they maybe shouldn't have had to the cops-
i doubt 'i don't know' would be a good answer to a cop saying 'what's the serial # of your stolen gun', ya know?
'where was it stolen from?'
the dashbox of my car.
'oh, great, maybe its in your kids locker at school, good work..'
um...
In CT that's unlawful storage.
As far as tracking down a straw purchase, there are a lot of ways of investigating that would not require registration.
That's what detectives do.
"Who did you sell the gun to?
How did you meet him?
Get a description"
Etc. Good old fasioned police work.
After that, if there is RAS of a Straw Sale, warrant for phone records, internet, etc.
you might think this is out there, but if there's gps in millions of smartphones, why not guns?
technology can do MORE than make guns more 'efficient' at what they do...
Smartphones are powered devices with complicated software and batteries.
Guns are "Complex Machines", meaning they perform more than 1 action, but they are unpowered, and RFID is too short range to be effective, so GPS wouldn't work.
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Attn: Gun Owners. This is a PSA. Take 5 minutes and do one small thing for gun safety. U know u can! [View all]
farminator3000
Feb 2013
OP
I have never, ever, seen "casings on the streets of NYC", or in any city for that matter.
NYC_SKP
Feb 2013
#10
ok, that might have been a BIT over-dramatic. but have you been to other nameless cities lately?
farminator3000
Feb 2013
#13
Release safety. Push out takedown pin (the bore brush is good for that). Pivot lower receiver...
Recursion
Feb 2013
#16
Spent 27 years of my life in Detroit. The only time I saw a casing on the ground
ScreamingMeemie
Feb 2013
#31
i was worried that would offend someone- i just meant its been in the news a lot lately
farminator3000
Feb 2013
#32
thanks, i was going to mention that, too. BUT...not always such a good idea
farminator3000
Feb 2013
#18
also, don't just go by your state laws- there are, of course, some problems...
farminator3000
Feb 2013
#19
There are something like 12K shootings with airguns each year in the FBI stats.
HereSince1628
Feb 2013
#52
this goes much smoother when we're both, if not on the same page, at least in the same book!
farminator3000
Feb 2013
#104
Inmate Finds and Returns Gun State Trooper Accidentally Left in Gym<--a gold star for gun safety!
farminator3000
Feb 2013
#59
just meant as a helpful suggestion/reminder. who else is 'telling you' things?
farminator3000
Feb 2013
#80
I don't need non-gun users 'splaining to me the finer details of concealed carry
geckosfeet
Feb 2013
#89
The rabid coyotes in your neighborhood are apparently more casual than the ones I've seen.
lumberjack_jeff
Feb 2013
#108